The Pirates reportedly could make a deal for Florida first baseman Mike Jacobs if they are willing to give up center fielder Chris Duffy. While Jacobs hit .262 with 20 homers and 77 RBIs in 136 games as a rookie last season, the Pirates are scared off by the fact he batted just .203 with six homers in the final two months.

 

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yeah it has been tossed about for a while now. Duffy's splits are interesting before he got sent down to AAA and after he came back. He was like a totally different player. I wonder why.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

Duffy would be an incredible addition. Amazing defense and knows how to steal a base.

 

Only thing I dont like is his K rate and well that he almost quit baseball last year because he had lost passion for the game. That last one scares me a little bit thought to be quite honest.

 

BUT still worth it.

he strikes out way too much, he cant take a walk for his life, he has almost no power at all for HRs and very little to the gap, he is a poor bunter.

 

But he has good defense. He is the same player as Taveras and Gathright if it before he was sent to AAA (left for 2 months awol).

this would be a good deal for both parties, although im not so sold on giving up on Jacobs yet but at this point I could care less

 

would be nice if the marlins can throw in one of their many pitching prospects and get a proven reliever in return. Salomon Torres would be nice but costly.

I would do it in a heartbeat.

 

Consistently great numbers in the minors for Duffy. 26/1 SB/CS ratio in the bigs last season, and a strong 2005 showing.

 

However, I'd be reluctant to do it as any more than a 1 for 1.

His 2005 was an awfully small sampling size. If he put up similar numbers last season I would be much more willing.

 

Oh I'm not saying he's prepared to hit .340 in the majors right away.

 

It's just he's had very good minor league numbers and lived on both ends of the spectrum during his 2 brief major league stints.

 

I think he can settle in as a .280-.300 hitter with 30+ SB's at a premium position of need. To me, that's more valuable than Jacobs' below average offensive production for the position.

I certainly see your point, and as you probably know I'm all for moving Jacobs, but I'm a little hesitant to call Duffy the CF solution after his performance last year. This team is so close to competing, I'd like more of a sure thing.

 

Expecting us to go trade for Andrew Jones or something? Only person that is a sure thing that we have any chance of acquiring is Baldelli and from the recent history I would say that we will not acquire him because they will probably ask for much more than Baldelli is worth. Duffy is probably the surest thing we can get not named Baldelli imo.

I certainly see your point, and as you probably know I'm all for moving Jacobs, but I'm a little hesitant to call Duffy the CF solution after his performance last year. This team is so close to competing, I'd like more of a sure thing.

 

We can't afford to play the free agent market, and no player at 22-26 is a "sure thing." Remember what Hermida was meant to bring to the table this year...

 

If I had my preference, I'd still make the inevitable Nolasco/Jacobs/_____ for Baldelli/_____ offer, but with Baldelli making less than $1 million this coming season, I'm sure the Rays are going to see a lot of action on him from a few teams.

 

I will say this though (and realize it's completely unrelated) I'm surprised by how long it's taken the shoe to drop given Beinfest's history of free agent market trades. He knows he's got the young pitching teams covet (at all phases of development) and he's got one concrete need, yet he hasn't done his market beating strategy...odd to me. It makes me wonder if we're waiting for a free agent to commit before making moves elsewhere.

crawford and baldelli and dejesus (doubt he would be for trade) are the most sure things

 

taveras, reed, duffy, gathright, kemp, milledge all go into the next group together in the possible sure things group.

 

 

 

Here is duffy's spltis pre and post all star break

 

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/stats/indivi...&statType=1

 

345 OBP .366 SLG .282 BA

 

His speed is great wonder if he can keep up a 282/345/366 though, even then only a 711 OPS

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how unknowledgable some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

And it wasn't slim either, everyone else was above .800, Jacobs was the only full time 1B below .800.

 

Thanks for playing.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

 

Because you can't say ANYTHING to reconcile that he is, statistically speaking, THE WORST 1st baseman in the National League, ankle or no ankle. He's going to have to change so drastically to even be league average that it's foolish to blame his ankle for all his short comings.

Pull the trigger! Duffy is the real deal! He can play big time defense, can steal a lot of bases, has the potential to be a consistant .300 hitter with a high OPS. He could have 30-35 doubles in our stadium as well.

 

 

1-C.Duffy (CF)

2-H.Ramirez (SS)

3-M.Cabrera (3B)

4-J.Willingham (LF)

5-D.Uggla (2B)

6-J.Hermida (RF)

7-J.Stokes (1B)

8-M.Olivo ©

9-D.Willis (SP)

 

 

If we do trade Jacobs for Duffy, then we would have to find a new 1B or move Willingham to 1st. I would love to see an Edgar Gonzalez/ Jason Stokes platoon at 1st base! I hope we get to see both of those guys get a chance in the majors this year.

Wild, not to disagree or anything just curious.

 

Why do you think he will have a high OPS? He had a nice on a year ago but then this past year he rather was horrible with SLG and his K/BB ratio was the pits.

 

Just curious why you feel he could become a high OPS guy or high OBP guy to hit lead off I do love his speed, not sure of his arm. Perhaps swift or another can give us his Baseball America write up to go off of .

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

 

Because you can't say ANYTHING to reconcile that he is, statistically speaking, THE WORST 1st baseman in the National League, ankle or no ankle. He's going to have to change so drastically to even be league average that it's foolish to blame his ankle for all his short comings.

 

No, because watching you spew your hate with the moral superiority you so often try to display just makes me pity your parents for having spawned such an unhappy child. You seem to revel in being hurtful. Ignoring the guy toughed it out and played on a broken ankle all season only weakens your argument and betrays your understanding of the game, you're like one of those kids who enjoys pulling the wings off butterflies.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

 

Because you can't say ANYTHING to reconcile that he is, statistically speaking, THE WORST 1st baseman in the National League, ankle or no ankle. He's going to have to change so drastically to even be league average that it's foolish to blame his ankle for all his short comings.

 

No, because watching you spew your hate with the moral superiority you so often try to display just makes me pity your parents for having spawned such an unhappy child. You seem to revel in being hurtful. Ignoring the guy toughed it out and played on a broken ankle all season only weakens your argument and betrays your understanding of the game, you're like one of those kids who enjoys pulling the wings off butterflies.

 

 

To be fair it wasnt close to all season, the ankle injury wasnt horrible till later on. And that does raise the question of injury concerns over jacobs too (since he had problems in the minors also) of if he can keep healthy normally.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

 

Because you can't say ANYTHING to reconcile that he is, statistically speaking, THE WORST 1st baseman in the National League, ankle or no ankle. He's going to have to change so drastically to even be league average that it's foolish to blame his ankle for all his short comings.

 

No, because watching you spew your hate with the moral superiority you so often try to display just makes me pity your parents for having spawned such an unhappy child. You seem to revel in being hurtful. Ignoring the guy toughed it out and played on a broken ankle all season only weakens your argument and betrays your understanding of the game, you're like one of those kids who enjoys pulling the wings off butterflies.

 

Thanks Dr. Freud.

 

You're incessant need to coddle players as if opinions are hurtful or that suggesting that they, as professionals, are not making the cut is blasphemous suggests to me that you are a deeply insecure person. After all, the degradation you love heaping on other people certainly screams that you need to build up your own weakened ego. Does looking in a mirror bring that much pain to you that you need to anonymously pick on others to feel better. My sad sad person, you epitomize paltriness.

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

 

Because you can't say ANYTHING to reconcile that he is, statistically speaking, THE WORST 1st baseman in the National League, ankle or no ankle. He's going to have to change so drastically to even be league average that it's foolish to blame his ankle for all his short comings.

 

No, because watching you spew your hate with the moral superiority you so often try to display just makes me pity your parents for having spawned such an unhappy child. You seem to revel in being hurtful. Ignoring the guy toughed it out and played on a broken ankle all season only weakens your argument and betrays your understanding of the game, you're like one of those kids who enjoys pulling the wings off butterflies.

 

Thanks Dr. Freud.

 

You're incessant need to coddle players as if opinions are hurtful or that suggesting that they, as professionals, are not making the cut is blasphemous suggests to me that you are a deeply insecure person. After all, the degradation you love heaping on other people certainly screams that you need to build up your own weakened ego. Does looking in a mirror bring that much pain to you that you need to anonymously pick on others to feel better. My sad sad person, you epitomize paltriness.

 

If you're going to try big words (those more than one syllable) you might want to invest in a dictionary.

 

Works wonders.

Pass

Wait, you mean they don't realize he did it all on a bad ankle, which clearly impared everything Mike Jacobs did last season, including derailing his attempts to cure cancer!

 

He didn't have a "bad" ankle, he had a broken ankle, a stress fracture of his right ankle to be precise.

 

It's laughable and yet sad at the same time how immature some people can be to continue feigning ignorance of the impact it had on his play, or the impact it would have on any player's play.

 

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

There's almost no response to this kind of ugliness except perhaps pity.

 

Because you can't say ANYTHING to reconcile that he is, statistically speaking, THE WORST 1st baseman in the National League, ankle or no ankle. He's going to have to change so drastically to even be league average that it's foolish to blame his ankle for all his short comings.

 

No, because watching you spew your hate with the moral superiority you so often try to display just makes me pity your parents for having spawned such an unhappy child. You seem to revel in being hurtful. Ignoring the guy toughed it out and played on a broken ankle all season only weakens your argument and betrays your understanding of the game, you're like one of those kids who enjoys pulling the wings off butterflies.

 

Thanks Dr. Freud.

 

You're incessant need to coddle players as if opinions are hurtful or that suggesting that they, as professionals, are not making the cut is blasphemous suggests to me that you are a deeply insecure person. After all, the degradation you love heaping on other people certainly screams that you need to build up your own weakened ego. Does looking in a mirror bring that much pain to you that you need to anonymously pick on others to feel better. My sad sad person, you epitomize paltriness.

 

If you're going to try big words (those more than one syllable) you might want to invest in a dictionary.

 

Works wonders.

 

I reiterate, you epitomize paltriness.

Children please

And it's sad that some can be so ignorant that they ignore he had THE WORST OPS by any full time NL first-baseman.

 

And it wasn't slim either, everyone else was above .800, Jacobs was the only full time 1B below .800.

 

Thanks for playing.

You'll have to qualify "full time" for the purposes of this discussion, because there certainly were other 1B who had significantly lower OPS (Doug Mientkiewicz for example) who were serving as close to full time as Jacobs. It's also disingenious of you to say that "it's wasn't slim either" as if Jacobs was like 50 points under 800. His OPS was 798. A simple look at the sortable stats on MLB.com shows you 1B with more playing time (ABs) than Jacobs with OPS under 810. Not exactly a blowout.