You can call them Rays

Thursday, Feb 8, 2007 1:06 pm EST

 

The Tampa Bay Devil Rays are expected to unveil new logos, colors and uniforms for the 2008 season. After club officials considered a complete nickname overhaul to mark the end of the franchise's first decade, they instead have reportedly decided to dump the Devil and simply go by the Rays.

The new color scheme, expected to be heavy on blue, perhaps with yellow accompaniments, isn't likely to be unveiled until after this season.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Yo...F?urn=mlb,23978

 

the announcers have been just calling them the rays for the past few years, it's like the devil doesn't exist, like the a's, bucs, knicks, and a couple of others i forgotten. this is the next logical step to just drop the devil altogether, but i'm sorta not impressed saying they may drop the whole fish theme for something else entirely, like rays of a sun. yuck.

They should just change the entire name. Rays just makes everyone think of losers. Its pretty bad that when people offer me tickets to the redsox vs rays (for free) I turn them down because I dont want to see them. They are just a really sad franchise.

I think it's a good move. The shortened "Rays" is much better than the longer version. I'm interested to see the new uniforms.

Look at the Oilers in football. When the moved to Tenn they were still called the oilers, a name not associated with winning. Just changing the name to Titans made people look at that organization differently.

They need way more than droppign the Devil in their name. I wouldn't say it's time to move them out of Tampa, but if they're going to this they might as well change the entire name and logo.

Unless they also leave the AL East.

Exactly.

They are the worse organization in baseball, their FO is absolutely horrible. As much as I hate Loris I have to admit the D-Rays ownership isn't much better. I expected Gerry Hunsicker to be a positive addition to their baseball operations but all we see is more of the same

Don't leave the AL East! The Orioles need someone to make them look half decent every year!

Don't leave the AL East! The Orioles need someone to make them look half decent every year!

:lol So true.

do you think the devil rays are the mlb's version of the saints prior to jim mora? i think so.

 

i say they will make the world series in 2038.

As far as contracting the Devil Rays............tell that to their hardcore fans and the baseball fans of Tampa Bay. Just because they have been struggling and are in a highly competitive division doesnt mean they should be contracted.

 

 

And to be quite honest, I enjoy watching their games. They always put up a fight and have some really exciting players (You just gotta love Carl Crawford and Kazmir).

 

As far as dropping the Devil. Ghey.

 

They'll always be known as the D-Rays to me.

As far as contracting the Devil Rays............tell that to their hardcore fans and the baseball fans of Tampa Bay.

I already told it to both of them. They were cool with it.

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As far as contracting the Devil Rays............tell that to their hardcore fans and the baseball fans of Tampa Bay.

I already told it to both of them. They were cool with it.

nah. im not a dray fan but i definitley am excited to see crawford baldelli young upton kazmir cantu gomez...they are up and coming

wont make any difference they still stink but as far as contracting goes I am not in favor of that i think as a Marlins fan the notion of contraction strikes a nerve a little to close to home.

yeah, it's kinda amusing to watch marlins fans talk about contracting or moving another team.

It's taking them entirely too long to produce quality major league pitchers out of their farm system. The only one to do so was a product of the Mets system as it is. Sad part is that they seem so desperate to find a good pitching prospect, when they do they end up rushing him to majors (Dewon Brazelton).

As far as contracting the Devil Rays............tell that to their hardcore fans and the baseball fans of Tampa Bay.

I already told it to both of them. They were cool with it.

 

 

 

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yeah, it's kinda amusing to watch marlins fans talk about contracting or moving another team.

 

 

 

I know. I can't even believe I'm reading some of these posts.

Bottom line is, there are multiple reasons for the Marlins troubles that could easily be corrected if given a stadium (which the Devil Rays have). Very few teams have gone through similiar struggles in getting a new park built. At least the franchise has shown signs of greatness over a short history. Dynasties could easily have been built if not for some would be minor factors.

 

Tampa Bay clearly has been a bad idea from the start. Unless they move out of the AL East they will never see the playoffs and will only continue to remain stagnant with their sorry excuse for a fanbase.

 

 

 

I don't have to much of a problem with your entire post with the exception of the last part of your last sentence.

 

 

It could be argued that the Marlins have a "sorry excuse for a fanbase" as well. (I'm obviously not referring to the members of this forum).

I never said they didn't.

 

 

 

 

So should the Marlins be contracted?

I never said they didn't.

 

 

 

 

So should the Marlins be contracted?

I was talking about the Marlins fanbase.

 

But as for your question...right now, no, they shouldn't be. However, if things don't change by 2009 and there is still no stadium being constructed, then yes. MLB will never do that though, but my personal feelings tell me that would be better for the game of baseball.

 

 

 

I understood you were talking about the fanbase.

 

I just asked because from what I interpreted, one of the reasons you gave for why Tampa should be contracted was their sorry excuse for a fanbase.

 

 

Using that logic the Marlins should be contracted too. :thumbup

I never said they didn't.

 

 

 

 

So should the Marlins be contracted?

I was talking about the Marlins fanbase.

 

But as for your question...right now, no, they shouldn't be. However, if things don't change by 2009 and there is still no stadium being constructed, then yes. MLB will never do that though, but my personal feelings tell me that would be better for the game of baseball.

 

 

 

I understood you were talking about the fanbase.

 

I just asked because from what I interpreted, one of the reasons you gave for why Tampa should be contracted was their sorry excuse for a fanbase.

 

 

Using that logic the Marlins should be contracted too. :thumbup

 

Lets get a stadium before we truely judge the marlins fan base. The drays have a pretty new stadium, with a dome (no threat or rain outs) and have terrible attendance. They are playing a series in orlando next year. i dont think any team should be contracted though.

I never said they didn't.

 

 

 

 

So should the Marlins be contracted?

I was talking about the Marlins fanbase.

 

But as for your question...right now, no, they shouldn't be. However, if things don't change by 2009 and there is still no stadium being constructed, then yes. MLB will never do that though, but my personal feelings tell me that would be better for the game of baseball.

 

 

 

I understood you were talking about the fanbase.

 

I just asked because from what I interpreted, one of the reasons you gave for why Tampa should be contracted was their sorry excuse for a fanbase.

 

 

Using that logic the Marlins should be contracted too. :thumbup

 

Lets get a stadium before we truely judge the marlins fan base. The drays have a pretty new stadium, with a dome (no threat or rain outs) and have terrible attendance. They are playing a series in orlando next year. i dont think any team should be contracted though.

 

 

 

That's a valid point but the D-Rays don't have TWO World Championships. Add 2 World Series rings to that dome and Im guessing the fan base would be quite different.

 

 

As far as contraction goes, it's an easy way to not deal with the roots of the underlying problem in MLB. Teams shouldn't be contracted. There are alternative means to problem solving.

I never said they didn't.

 

 

 

 

So should the Marlins be contracted?

I was talking about the Marlins fanbase.

 

But as for your question...right now, no, they shouldn't be. However, if things don't change by 2009 and there is still no stadium being constructed, then yes. MLB will never do that though, but my personal feelings tell me that would be better for the game of baseball.

 

 

 

I understood you were talking about the fanbase.

 

I just asked because from what I interpreted, one of the reasons you gave for why Tampa should be contracted was their sorry excuse for a fanbase.

 

 

Using that logic the Marlins should be contracted too. :thumbup

 

Lets get a stadium before we truely judge the marlins fan base. The drays have a pretty new stadium, with a dome (no threat or rain outs) and have terrible attendance. They are playing a series in orlando next year. i dont think any team should be contracted though.

 

 

 

That's a valid point but the D-Rays don't have TWO World Championships. Add 2 World Series rings to that dome and Im guessing the fan base would be quite different.

 

 

As far as contraction goes, it's an easy way to not deal with the roots of the underlying problem in MLB. Teams shouldn't be contracted. There are alternative means to problem solving.

 

Add in two fire sales as well...

 

If the drays didnt play the yankees and redsox at home (about 25% of their home schedule) we would see much lower attendance figures. I know you can make the case that the marlins get the mets at home, but the yankees and redsox are the two biggest draws in the league.

As far as contraction goes, it's an easy way to not deal with the roots of the underlying problem in MLB. Teams shouldn't be contracted. There are alternative means to problem solving.

Yeah, it's called regular season parity.

 

Currently, there is none.

 

The rich stay rich and perpetually contend.

 

The poor occasionally get lucky, but for the most part, perpetually suck.

 

That's why from a fan and marketing standpoint, the NBA and NFL blow MLB out of the water.

As far as contraction goes, it's an easy way to not deal with the roots of the underlying problem in MLB. Teams shouldn't be contracted. There are alternative means to problem solving.

Yeah, it's called regular season parity.

 

Currently, there is none.

 

The rich stay rich and perpetually contend.

 

The poor occasionally get lucky, but for the most part, perpetually suck.

 

That's why from a fan and marketing standpoint, the NBA and NFL blow MLB out of the water.

 

The nba does not blow the mlb out of water. A few years ago the nets spurs final had about a 5.8 tv rating. They didnt do a very good job attracting viewers.