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Ironman idiot says Scotty O "not welcome" if convicted...

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Le Batard asked Samson if Olsen had been making progress. Samson replied that Olsen is in therapy and is getting help. He explained that Scotty is a young kid and listed the usual excuses for why bad things happen (money, fame, etc). Then out of Josh Willingham's ass (more vivid than just saying left field), Samson pulls (paraphrasing), We're letting the legal process run its course but if convicted Scott won't be welcome with the team. He explained that the organization has a civic responsibility to field a team the community can be proud of (i.e. no criminal offenders). Le Batard told him that he's gotta be kidding and that Beinfest would overrule him. Samson acknowledged he doesn't make the final decision, and he will speak with both Loria and The Chosen One, but that if the decision were up to him, he said Olsen would be gone, upon conviction. Numerous times.

 

This guy just continues to leave me speechless (except what I'm writing here). No wonder Le Batard has him on every week. He comes on spewing ridiculous, headline-making, self-righteous nonsense that no one else would ever dare say. This was probably the most unprofessional thing I've ever heard from the PRESIDENT of a sports team (of course the only competition being Samson's Ichiro tirade). Forget about the idea of just ridding the team of Olsen's talent and denying him the continued help he needs. How can you go on the radio and speak about a player in your organization like this? What an outpouring of support. Telling Scotty O he's a lame duck pitcher will surely help him keep his composure.

 

I guarantee The Chosen One has spent more than one sleepless night thinking about how much he hates David Samson.

I don't see why they'd bother to make him go to therapy if they plan to get rid of him if convicted.

Plea bargain? If Scotty is convicted, that means it goes to trial...which the Marlins don't need to happen.

If he was having a good year they wouldn't be saying this.

 

/Marlins and every other club in the majors.

Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

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Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

 

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If he was having a good year they wouldn't be saying this.

 

/Marlins and every other club in the majors.

 

I don't know. . this guy doesn't have many PR skills.

Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

 

 

Willis = Misdemeanor

 

Olsen = 2 Felony's and a misdemeanor

 

 

 

There is a difference.

 

 

Just saying.

The problem here is that you just don't come out and say it. Takes away any value he might have, and puts the spotlight on us now if we don't release him for whatever reason.

 

Lets say he gets hot to end the season and goes on a remarkable Brandon Webb like streak, and then gets a minor conviction. Do we still release him? Does he have any trade value if teams expect us to keep our president's word? Stupid. I can't stand that little man.

Dontrelle didn't resist arrest and get himself tazered by the cops. Dontrelle will probably get himself a nice slap on the wrist whereas they will probably throw the book at Scotty and give him yet another black eye.

Dontrelle didn't resist arrest and get himself tazered by the cops. Dontrelle will probably get himself a nice slap on the wrist whereas they will probably throw the book at Scotty and give him yet another black eye.

 

 

Plus there is no way in hell Dontrelle gets convicted. Maybe a slight misdemeanor for urinating in public or something, but unless he has the worst lawyer in the world, he will not be convicted of a DUI.

Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

 

 

Willis = Misdemeanor

 

Olsen = 2 Felony's and a misdemeanor

 

 

 

There is a difference.

 

 

Just saying.

He explained that the organization has a civic responsibility to field a team the community can be proud of (i.e. no criminal offenders).

 

A DUI is'nt something to be proud of. If you do something to one player you gotta do the same to the other.

 

Just saying.

Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

 

 

Willis = Misdemeanor

 

Olsen = 2 Felony's and a misdemeanor

 

 

 

There is a difference.

 

 

Just saying.

He explained that the organization has a civic responsibility to field a team the community can be proud of (i.e. no criminal offenders).

 

A DUI is'nt something to be proud of. If you do something to one player you gotta do the same to the other.

 

Just saying.

 

It ain't something to be proud of, but what Scotty did was much worse IMO. Dontrelle could've injured himself or others but he didn't.

Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

 

 

Willis = Misdemeanor

 

Olsen = 2 Felony's and a misdemeanor

 

 

 

There is a difference.

 

 

Just saying.

He explained that the organization has a civic responsibility to field a team the community can be proud of (i.e. no criminal offenders).

 

A DUI is'nt something to be proud of. If you do something to one player you gotta do the same to the other.

 

Just saying.

 

It ain't something to be proud of, but what Scotty did was much worse IMO. Dontrelle could've injured himself or others but he didn't.

I'm not talking about whats worst. Im talking about whats right, he should'nt have said anything about Olsen if the same thing is'nt going to go for Willis. It just is'nt right he should have not spoken about it. But hey what walks like an idiot, looks like an idiot, and talks like an idiot is an idiot. And that's what this franchise's president is.

If he was having a good year they wouldn't be saying this.

 

/Marlins and every other club in the majors.

 

Agreed.

 

And yet I have no problem with what Samson is saying on this one occasion. Because:

 

1. From what I can tell, Olsen isn't that special, so the potential gains for me--namely, not having to feel dirty for rooting for a dipshit--may very outweigh the losses--namely, losing whatever talent Olsen has.

 

2. If you really want to make this about what's best for Olsen, then, clearly, learning that actions do have serious consequences is what's best for him. Another slap on the wrist wouldn't teach him anything. In all truth, from an idealistic point of view, the one that causes writers and fans to pontificate about morals in sports and what-not, the Marlins have handled this perfectly to date--letting the legal process play out before passing judgment and then promising meaningful punishment should Olsen be found guilty. I mean, you hear people complain about Roger Goodell suspending players before they've had their say in court, and you hear people whine about teams not punishing players in any meaningful sense for their transgressions, and now we have people complaining about the Marlins doing exactly what we've asked other teams to do in the past.

 

As for the issue of whether he should've said this publicly, I think it's important for the public to hear about this. If it all happens behind closed doors and Olsen is found innocent then no one in the public ever sees that the Marlins were willing to stand up for something, and no one--no kids, no other athletes--learn the lesson that sometimes a DUI really can have consequences. I would argue that Samson is doing a public service. And finally, I would argue that if we didn't already hate Samson--and I hate him too--then we'd be a lot more willing to accept all of this, that it might make for a good PR move, and that we might even praise him for it. But Samson is ultimately a despciable little man who has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt, so, you know, have at him if it pleases you.

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If he was having a good year they wouldn't be saying this.

 

/Marlins and every other club in the majors.

 

Agreed.

 

And yet I have no problem with what Samson is saying on this one occasion. Because:

 

1. From what I can tell, Olsen isn't that special, so the potential gains for me--namely, not having to feel dirty for rooting for a dipshit--may very outweigh the losses--namely, losing whatever talent Olsen has.

 

2. If you really want to make this about what's best for Olsen, then, clearly, learning that actions do have serious consequences is what's best for him. Another slap on the wrist wouldn't teach him anything. In all truth, from an idealistic point of view, the one that causes writers and fans to pontificate about morals in sports and what-not, the Marlins have handled this perfectly to date--letting the legal process play out before passing judgment and then promising meaningful punishment should Olsen be found guilty. I mean, you hear people complain about Roger Goodell suspending players before they've had their say in court, and you hear people whine about teams not punishing players in any meaningful sense for their transgressions, and now we have people complaining about the Marlins doing exactly what we've asked other teams to do in the past.

 

As for the issue of whether he should've said this publicly, I think it's important for the public to hear about this. If it all happens behind closed doors and Olsen is found innocent then no one in the public ever sees that the Marlins were willing to stand up for something, and no one--no kids, no other athletes--learn the lesson that sometimes a DUI really can have consequences. I would argue that Samson is doing a public service. And finally, I would argue that if we didn't already hate Samson--and I hate him too--then we'd be a lot more willing to accept all of this, that it might make for a good PR move, and that we might even praise him for it. But Samson is ultimately a despciable little man who has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt, so, you know, have at him if it pleases you.

 

so when he's convicted and not gotten rid of, what then?

Im guessing samething goes for Willis. Right? his problem has'nt been resolved from what I remember.

 

 

Willis = Misdemeanor

 

Olsen = 2 Felony's and a misdemeanor

 

 

 

There is a difference.

 

 

Just saying.

He explained that the organization has a civic responsibility to field a team the community can be proud of (i.e. no criminal offenders).

 

A DUI is'nt something to be proud of. If you do something to one player you gotta do the same to the other.

 

Just saying.

 

It ain't something to be proud of, but what Scotty did was much worse IMO. Dontrelle could've injured himself or others but he didn't.

I'm not talking about whats worst. Im talking about whats right, he should'nt have said anything about Olsen if the same thing is'nt going to go for Willis. It just is'nt right he should have not spoken about it. But hey what walks like an idiot, looks like an idiot, and talks like an idiot is an idiot. And that's what this franchise's president is.

 

I agree that he's an idiot and shouldn't have said that, i just don't think you can compare what Dontrelle did to what Olsen did.

Please someone tell this little midget Samson to STFU...

 

 

 

LOL I'll never forget this and man what it was funny as hell too: At one of the Marlins season ticket holder events he went up to speak to the fans some dude in the crowd was like "eh man stand up" inferring that he was short as hell LMFAO...

so when he's convicted and not gotten rid of, what then?

 

Then he got overruled by someone, or he was full of it to begin with. Either way, supposing that happens, it will mean that when it comes to values--and by values, I do not mean profit--the Marlins stand for as little as every other franchise out there. Not the end of the world.

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so when he's convicted and not gotten rid of, what then?

 

Then he got overruled by someone, or he was full of it to begin with. Either way, supposing that happens, it will mean that when it comes to values--and by values, I do not mean profit--the Marlins stand for as little as every other franchise out there. Not the end of the world.

 

well, alright. but so then he shouldn't be spewing that garbage in the first place, right?

Please someone tell this little midget Samson to STFU...

 

 

 

LOL I'll never forget this and man what it was funny as hell too: At one of the Marlins season ticket holder events he went up to speak to the fans some dude in the crowd was like "eh man stand up" inferring that he was short as hell LMFAO...

 

I think that was me. lol. Samson was probably one of those losers that didn't have any friends

while he was growing up and spent his time masturbating and killing lizards.

If he was having a good year they wouldn't be saying this.

 

/Marlins and every other club in the majors.

 

Agreed.

 

And yet I have no problem with what Samson is saying on this one occasion. Because:

 

1. From what I can tell, Olsen isn't that special, so the potential gains for me--namely, not having to feel dirty for rooting for a dipshit--may very outweigh the losses--namely, losing whatever talent Olsen has.

 

2. If you really want to make this about what's best for Olsen, then, clearly, learning that actions do have serious consequences is what's best for him. Another slap on the wrist wouldn't teach him anything. In all truth, from an idealistic point of view, the one that causes writers and fans to pontificate about morals in sports and what-not, the Marlins have handled this perfectly to date--letting the legal process play out before passing judgment and then promising meaningful punishment should Olsen be found guilty. I mean, you hear people complain about Roger Goodell suspending players before they've had their say in court, and you hear people whine about teams not punishing players in any meaningful sense for their transgressions, and now we have people complaining about the Marlins doing exactly what we've asked other teams to do in the past.

 

As for the issue of whether he should've said this publicly, I think it's important for the public to hear about this. If it all happens behind closed doors and Olsen is found innocent then no one in the public ever sees that the Marlins were willing to stand up for something, and no one--no kids, no other athletes--learn the lesson that sometimes a DUI really can have consequences. I would argue that Samson is doing a public service. And finally, I would argue that if we didn't already hate Samson--and I hate him too--then we'd be a lot more willing to accept all of this, that it might make for a good PR move, and that we might even praise him for it. But Samson is ultimately a despciable little man who has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt, so, you know, have at him if it pleases you.

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