October 25, 200322 yr You just don't get it. The only thing holding back Ramon Castro is Ramon Castro. The only thing(s) holding back Ramon Castro are named Chareles Johnson and Ivan Rodriguez. Castro would start for 17 other major league teams. Period. I'm curious as to how you came up with a number as specific as 17, or how you know for sure Castro could hold it down and keep his job in the majors when he's never even had a 100 at bat major league season.
October 25, 200322 yr Basing what people have said about potential, stats, and what other people have said, Drew Henson should be a gold-glove winning all star 3rd baseman hitting .300/30/100 a year at least. Drew Henson can't even hit . 200 in AA. Castro already proved himself time and time again in the minors. Now he needs a chance in the majors. There is nothing indicating that he will be a bad major league player. You're just assuming the worst.
October 25, 200322 yr he has potential? and? how many people waste that potential? potential just means he hasnt done s***. 2 years on the big league roster getting no playing time as 3rd catcher when the f***ing backup was struggling this year, and even the starter was struggling in 2002 in the 2nd half doesnt exactly say much for him. does Pudge make the line-up cards? If torborg was so confident in him how come he didnt play him more when CJ got hist off-days
October 25, 200322 yr Truly a fast reply. According to ESPN he hit .409 against lefties and .194 against righties. There are many more right handed pitchers in the MLB than lefties. Over a season with 80/20 righty/lefties your probably looking at a guy who hits .235. That might be the genesis of the argument. I think you said it yourself earlier (or it was someone else), you can't determine a full-season on 53 at-bats. And look at Derrek Lee's split stats. Same goes for Lowell and even the all-mighty Pudge. your basing his 2004 all-star season on 53 AB's and AAA #'s I'm basing on potential. I'm basing it on stats. I'm basing it on what peolpe have said about him. Do you remember a quote from IVAN RODRIGUEZ about Ramon Castro? He said the exact same thing as Jeff Torborg. He, the all-mighty Ivan Rodriguez, stated that Ramon castro was going to be an All-Star player one day. So if you don't care what Torborg said, you best respect what Pudge says. po?ten?tial ?? (?P?)??Pronunciation Key??(p-tnshl) adj. 1. Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: WC is a potential problem. 2. Having possibility, capability, or power. 3. Grammar. Of, relating to, or being a verbal construction with auxiliaries such as may or can; for example, it may snow. n. 1. The inherent ability or capacity for growth, development, or coming into being. 2. Something possessing the capacity for growth or development: WC is a potential jinx.
October 25, 200322 yr Basing what people have said about potential, stats, and what other people have said, Drew Henson should be a gold-glove winning all star 3rd baseman hitting .300/30/100 a year at least. Drew Henson can't even hit . 200 in AA. Castro already proved himself time and time again in the minors. Now he needs a chance in the majors. There is nothing indicating that he will be a bad major league player. You're just assuming the worst. No, i'm assuming the percentages. Most minor league prospects don't make it in the majors, even the good ones, period.
October 25, 200322 yr You just don't get it. The only thing holding back Ramon Castro is Ramon Castro. The only thing(s) holding back Ramon Castro are named Chareles Johnson and Ivan Rodriguez. Castro would start for 17 other major league teams. Period. I'm curious as to how you came up with a number as specific as 17, or how you know for sure Castro could hold it down and keep his job in the majors when he's never even had a 100 at bat major league season. Opening Day 2004, he would start for 17 MLB teams.
October 25, 200322 yr You just don't get it. The only thing holding back Ramon Castro is Ramon Castro. The only thing(s) holding back Ramon Castro are named Chareles Johnson and Ivan Rodriguez. Castro would start for 17 other major league teams. Period. I'm curious as to how you came up with a number as specific as 17, or how you know for sure Castro could hold it down and keep his job in the majors when he's never even had a 100 at bat major league season. because he's WC. him who bases everything on stats and players and Managers quotes instead of just watching what their actions are
October 25, 200322 yr No, i'm assuming the percentages. Most minor league prospects don't make it in the majors, even the good ones, period. But he'e never shown signs of being a bad major league player. In fact, he's shown nothing but positive signs!
October 25, 200322 yr because he's WC. him who bases everything on stats and players and Managers quotes instead of just watching what their actions are Would you like me to give you the names of those teams?
October 25, 200322 yr You just don't get it. The only thing holding back Ramon Castro is Ramon Castro. The only thing(s) holding back Ramon Castro are named Chareles Johnson and Ivan Rodriguez. Castro would start for 17 other major league teams. Period. I'm curious as to how you came up with a number as specific as 17, or how you know for sure Castro could hold it down and keep his job in the majors when he's never even had a 100 at bat major league season. Opening Day 2004, he would start for 17 MLB teams. Still didn't answer my question as to how you came up with the number 17.
October 25, 200322 yr No, i'm assuming the percentages. Most minor league prospects don't make it in the majors, even the good ones, period. But he'e never shown signs of being a bad major league player. In fact, he's shown nothing but positive signs! I understand that, but the same coul be said for A LOT of guys who DIDN'T make it in the majors.
October 25, 200322 yr because he's WC. him who bases everything on stats and players and Managers quotes instead of just watching what their actions are Would you like me to give you the names of those teams? do i actually care about those teams. do we have to go back to what this knows about him and the other teams not having that knowledge
October 25, 200322 yr Look, Wild asked me to verify what I said about there being a "knock" on Castro, a batting weakness. This was the first thing I came up with, it just jumped off the page at me. It may be an aberration in a mere 53 at bats this year, but I saw it and passed it along. I know there's been comments in the press about some shortcoming he has. The guy's like a career (since 2000) .240 hitter and a couple of years he had over 100 at bats, still not a good test to be sure, but more representative. I'd like the to see the guy blossom into someone we can use or trade for someone of value. It's a lousy situation he finds himself in, I have nothing against the guy. Its easy to be seduced by his demeanor in the batter's box, he certainly looks fearless and takes his rips. But I don't know if that translates in the long run into a first rate major league catcher or not.
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October 25, 200322 yr You just don't get it. The only thing holding back Ramon Castro is Ramon Castro. The only thing(s) holding back Ramon Castro are named Chareles Johnson and Ivan Rodriguez. Castro would start for 17 other major league teams. Period. I'm curious as to how you came up with a number as specific as 17, or how you know for sure Castro could hold it down and keep his job in the majors when he's never even had a 100 at bat major league season. Opening Day 2004, he would start for 17 MLB teams. Still didn't answer my question as to how you came up with the number 17. King WC doesn't know...
October 25, 200322 yr Angels D-Backs Orioles Cubs Reds Indians Tigers Royals Dodgers Brewers Expos Pirates Padres Mariners D-Rays Rangers Blue Jays and what does that mean. fact remains: Castro is our starter before January after the CJ trade, finally give him a shot, nobody is in his way. they go and spend $10 million of pudge
October 25, 200322 yr Look, Wild asked me to verify what I said about there being a "knock" on Castro, a batting weakness. This was the first thing I came up with, it just jumped off the page at me. It may be an aberration in a mere 53 at bats this year, but I saw it and passed it along. I know there's been comments in the press about some shortcoming he has. The guy's like a career (since 2000) .240 hitter and a couple of years he had over 100 at bats, still not a good test to be sure, but more representative. I'd like the to see the guy blossom into someone we can use or trade for someone of value. It's a lousy situation he finds himself in, I have nothing against the guy. Its easy to be seduced by his demeanor in the batter's box, he certainly looks fearless and takes his rips. But I don't know if that translates in the long run into a first rate major league catcher or not. This is the best post of this thread. You're completely correct. BUT, almost all of those at-bats have been coming off the bench, and he's not a bench player.
October 25, 200322 yr Look, Wild asked me to verify what I said about there being a "knock" on Castro, a batting weakness. This was the first thing I came up with, it just jumped off the page at me. It may be an aberration in a mere 53 at bats this year, but I saw it and passed it along. I know there's been comments in the press about some shortcoming he has. The guy's like a career (since 2000) .240 hitter and a couple of years he had over 100 at bats, still not a good test to be sure, but more representative. I'd like the to see the guy blossom into someone we can use or trade for someone of value. It's a lousy situation he finds himself in, I have nothing against the guy. Its easy to be seduced by his demeanor in the batter's box, he certainly looks fearless and takes his rips. But I don't know if that translates in the long run into a first rate major league catcher or not. This is the best post of this thread. You're completely correct. BUT, almost all of those at-bats have been coming off the bench, and he's not a bench player. Look, we all like the marlins and want to see this kid Castro do well. I simply disagree with your almost assurance to us that Castro will be a very good major league player based on his minor league numbers. Does he have good numbers down on the farm?? Yes. Does he have potential? Yes. Does this mean he is going to for sure be a good pro player.? Definitely no.
October 25, 200322 yr King WC doesn't know... Because he is BETTER than the current starters for those 17 teams. fact remains: Castro is our starter before January after the CJ trade, finally give him a shot, nobody is in his way. they go and spend $10 million of pudge This team needed star power. Pudge was the only star on the market (or at least the only one they could barely afford). Period. It;s not because they had no confidence in Castro, because if they didn;t have confidence in Ramon, we would have never gotten rid of CJ, and even if we had gotten rid of CJ, if we had no confidence in Ramon, REDMOND would have been named the new starter, not Castro.
October 25, 200322 yr King WC doesn't know... Because he is BETTER than the current starters for those 17 teams. fact remains: Castro is our starter before January after the CJ trade, finally give him a shot, nobody is in his way. they go and spend $10 million of pudge This team needed star power. Pudge was the only star on the market (or at least the only one they could barely afford). Period. It;s not because they had no confidence in Castro, because if they didn;t have confidence in Ramon, we would have never gotten rid of CJ, and even if we had gotten rid of CJ, if we had no confidence in Ramon, REDMOND would have been named the new starter, not Castro.Signing Pudge had very little to do with star power, and more to do with the fact that the Marlins could afford a hall of fame calibur catcher who shuts down running games, hits .300 with power, and bats in a lot of runs, especially in key situations.
October 25, 200322 yr i got to take care of some stuff before the game. we all feel like Marlins2003, i hope the man becomes a star. but there has to be a reason why he hasnt gotten a shot to play when CJ got an off-day or when CJ was traded. or when REd was struggling this year starting for Pudge. im trying to tell you AAA #'s and what team wants him doesnt mean that much. this team knows something about Castro, i dont know what. but he's not guaranteed to be this great player you speak of
October 25, 200322 yr I simply disagree with your almost assurance to us that Castro will be a very good major league player I simply disagree with all of your (not just you, but everyones) assurance that he will NOT succeed, when all signs point to the exact opposite.
October 25, 200322 yr I simply disagree with your almost assurance to us that Castro will be a very good major league player I simply disagree with all of your (not just you, but everyones) assurance that he will NOT succeed, when all signs point to the exact opposite. I'm not saying he WON'T succeed, if anybody here is with those numbers you gave us, they are a total idiot. I'm saying odds are still better he won't based on any numbers you look at on players who succeed in the minors, contrary to your belief that he is unfallible.
October 25, 200322 yr King WC doesn't know... Because he is BETTER than the current starters for those 17 teams. fact remains: Castro is our starter before January after the CJ trade, finally give him a shot, nobody is in his way. they go and spend $10 million of pudge This team needed star power. Pudge was the only star on the market (or at least the only one they could barely afford). Period. It;s not because they had no confidence in Castro, because if they didn;t have confidence in Ramon, we would have never gotten rid of CJ, and even if we had gotten rid of CJ, if we had no confidence in Ramon, REDMOND would have been named the new starter, not Castro.forget star power, if you have a good young player you feel will contribute and is ready after all those AAA seasons, logic says he's getting the chance.
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