June 26, 200817 yr Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Ummm, he is having good rehab starts and Freddi has said he is going right into the rotation soon... Ummmm Single A hitters
June 26, 200817 yr Author Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk
June 26, 200817 yr Author Who do we replace him with? Thank god' date=' the people on this board are not running the organization.[/quote'] When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Ummm, he is having good rehab starts and Freddi has said he is going right into the rotation soon... Ummmm Single A hitters
June 26, 200817 yr Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score...
June 26, 200817 yr Are morons still willing to stand up for him? I mean really people, come on your eyes are not lying.
June 26, 200817 yr Are morons still willing to stand up for him? I mean really people, come on your eyes are not lying. I never once said in any of my posts that mark is a great pitcher... All I was saying is the guy shouldnt be released thats all
June 26, 200817 yr Author Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score... Yeah, which is now 5 - 0 and would have been 7 or 8 - 0 without Cody... He didn't even finish the 5th today, his ERA is now 5.93...I'd rather watch a rehabbing JJ pitch in this guy's rotation slot... I rest my case
June 26, 200817 yr Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score... Yeah, which is now 5 - 0 and would have been 7 or 8 - 0 without Cody... He didn't even finish the 5th today, his ERA is now 5.93...I'd rather watch a rehabbing JJ pitch in this guy's rotation slot... I rest my case COULD have been 7 or 8-0 but its not.. its 5..... So teams that fall down 5-0 the game is over???
June 26, 200817 yr Does anyone honestly have faith in Hendrickson, I go into every start of his expecting a L and at most 5IP and at a snails pace. He is not an inning eater like someone said, you know every start you will need long relief.
June 26, 200817 yr These last few games against the Rays have been like bad car accidents...so awful, but you can't look away.
June 26, 200817 yr Yea Volsted is a great choice. Then we have zero vetern leadership. You can kiss any chance at the playoff's good bye if we do that. Now if we traded for a vet SP, I would be all for sending Mark to the Bull Pen. You do realize the Rays rotation contains player aged 26, 25, 24, 24, and 24? And yet they're one of the best rotations in baseball. Having a "vet" in the rotation doesn't mean anything. Hell we ourselves did the same thing in 2006, 5 young players that did extremely well.
June 26, 200817 yr Author Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score... Yeah, which is now 5 - 0 and would have been 7 or 8 - 0 without Cody... He didn't even finish the 5th today, his ERA is now 5.93...I'd rather watch a rehabbing JJ pitch in this guy's rotation slot... I rest my case COULD have been 7 or 8-0 but its not.. its 5..... So teams that fall down 5-0 the game is over??? I never said they cannot win, don't put words in my mouth...you are the one saying it... But I think mentally it hurts the team's offense when they know a guy will go out there and get lit up and that they know they will be in a hole early
June 26, 200817 yr Author Yea Volsted is a great choice. Then we have zero vetern leadership. You can kiss any chance at the playoff's good bye if we do that. Now if we traded for a vet SP, I would be all for sending Mark to the Bull Pen. You do realize the Rays rotation contains player aged 26, 25, 24, 24, and 24? And yet they're one of the best rotations in baseball. Having a "vet" in the rotation doesn't mean anything. Hell we ourselves did the same thing in 2006, 5 young players that did extremely well. Does anyone honestly have faith in Hendrickson, I go into every start of his expecting a L and at most 5IP and at a snails pace. He is not an inning eater like someone said, you know every start you will need long relief. Thank you!!!
June 26, 200817 yr Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score... Yeah, which is now 5 - 0 and would have been 7 or 8 - 0 without Cody... He didn't even finish the 5th today, his ERA is now 5.93...I'd rather watch a rehabbing JJ pitch in this guy's rotation slot... I rest my case COULD have been 7 or 8-0 but its not.. its 5..... So teams that fall down 5-0 the game is over??? I never said they cannot win, don't put words in my mouth...you are the one saying it... But I think mentally it hurts the team's offense when they know a guy will go out there and get lit up and that they know they will be in a hole early Vice versa... it hurts the pitchers mentality when your down 2-0 in the 4th but ur offense doesnt have a hit yet.. the pitchers press and force pitches which lead to walks.... goes both ways my friend
June 26, 200817 yr Author Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score... Yeah, which is now 5 - 0 and would have been 7 or 8 - 0 without Cody... He didn't even finish the 5th today, his ERA is now 5.93...I'd rather watch a rehabbing JJ pitch in this guy's rotation slot... I rest my case COULD have been 7 or 8-0 but its not.. its 5..... So teams that fall down 5-0 the game is over??? I never said they cannot win, don't put words in my mouth...you are the one saying it... But I think mentally it hurts the team's offense when they know a guy will go out there and get lit up and that they know they will be in a hole early Vice versa... it hurts the pitchers mentality when your down 2-0 in the 4th but ur offense doesnt have a hit yet.. the pitchers press and force pitches which lead to walks.... goes both ways my friend So who told Hendrickson to screw up in the 2nd inning after the Marlins had only 1 half inning at the plate. He needs to keep the team in the game so that the offense can give HIM the lead not vice versa
June 26, 200817 yr Who do we replace him with? Thank god, the people on this board are not running the organization. When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Im pulling for JJ but there is no doubt that guy gets ROCKED his first couple of starts.. Not to mention its hard to pitch a good game when your team doesnt hit a LICK! So it is the offense's fault that Hendrickson is not pitching well....? 5 walks (1 of them IBB), an ERA near 6, over 90 pitches in 5th inning...yeah the offense caused that... Hey, a double after that 5th walk Its not the complete fault of the offense of course.. But you can walk 20 hitters all that matters is the score... Yeah, which is now 5 - 0 and would have been 7 or 8 - 0 without Cody... He didn't even finish the 5th today, his ERA is now 5.93...I'd rather watch a rehabbing JJ pitch in this guy's rotation slot... I rest my case COULD have been 7 or 8-0 but its not.. its 5..... So teams that fall down 5-0 the game is over??? I never said they cannot win, don't put words in my mouth...you are the one saying it... But I think mentally it hurts the team's offense when they know a guy will go out there and get lit up and that they know they will be in a hole early Vice versa... it hurts the pitchers mentality when your down 2-0 in the 4th but ur offense doesnt have a hit yet.. the pitchers press and force pitches which lead to walks.... goes both ways my friend So who told Hendrickson to screw up in the 2nd inning after the Marlins had only 1 half inning at the plate. He needs to keep the team in the game so that the offense can give HIM the lead not vice versa How the hell did he screw up in the second inning??? HE gave up 1 RUN!!
June 26, 200817 yr Who do we replace him with? Thank god' date=' the people on this board are not running the organization.[/quote'] When JJ is off the DL... Is Volstad off the DL yet? Yea throw JJ in there, guys hasnt pitcher a year + Ummm, he is having good rehab starts and Freddi has said he is going right into the rotation soon... Ummmm Single A hitters
June 26, 200817 yr Author In the 2nd inning today so far...Lead-off walk, just missed getting a strike 3 call looking so he gives up a double on next pitch, hits a batter on 1-2 count, almost gives up a bases clearing double (Cody bailed out his ass), then throws a wild pitch moving runner to 3rd...
June 26, 200817 yr In the 2nd inning today so far...Lead-off walk, just missed getting a strike 3 call looking so he gives up a double on next pitch, hits a batter on 1-2 count, almost gives up a bases clearing double (Cody bailed out his ass), then throws a wild pitch moving runner to 3rd... Give up already on the cody bailing him out... thats exactly what cody did, i agree... thats what defense is suppose to do! He gave up 1 run not 4!!
June 26, 200817 yr Author In the 2nd inning today so far...Lead-off walk, just missed getting a strike 3 call looking so he gives up a double on next pitch, hits a batter on 1-2 count, almost gives up a bases clearing double (Cody bailed out his ass), then throws a wild pitch moving runner to 3rd... Give up already on the cody bailing him out... thats exactly what cody did, i agree... thats what defense is suppose to do! He gave up 1 run not 4!! Hendrickson got lucky. He only gave up 1 run there but then later he could not keep his team in it. OK, so the offense is not hitting, but he needed to keep it a 1 or 2 run game and he didnt last 5 full innings. Get past it, Hendrickson just is not good. I'd rather take mychances with a rookie in his slot
June 26, 200817 yr We can all agree on something... Mark struggled today, offense is terrible slump right now, this series was a tough one... The bats needs to wake up though! Owings, Webb, and Haren coming this weekend
June 26, 200817 yr I keep wondering why the pitching coach continues to get a free pass in these discussions or generally in the media. He seems to me to be the common denominator among these underachievers.
June 26, 200817 yr I keep wondering why the pitching coach continues to get a free pass in these discussions or generally in the media. He seems to me to be the common denominator among these underachievers. i thought mark wiley has done a good job this year the staff has improved in the last year our bullpen is a little snake bitten since we had lee gardner would eat innings for the penn they are missing him
June 26, 200817 yr I keep wondering why the pitching coach continues to get a free pass in these discussions or generally in the media. He seems to me to be the common denominator among these underachievers. It's not his fault our staff is full of minor leaguers.
June 26, 200817 yr I keep wondering why the pitching coach continues to get a free pass in these discussions or generally in the media. He seems to me to be the common denominator among these underachievers. i thought mark wiley has done a good job this year the staff has improved in the last year our bullpen is a little snake bitten since we had lee gardner would eat innings for the penn they are missing him It is? Fooled me.
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