It's nice to see all the support from Marlins fans who believe in one of their players. :thumbup

 

Yes it is. But for me it's not just that he is a Marlin. I would say the same thing about any player that was asked to compete for this team, regardless of the orginazation they played for, if someone went on a message board and said they didn't deserve the opportunity.

 

Compare lists of guys that weren't asked that have better numbers and were able, willing, and allowed by their home team to play. I keep hearing, "That is easy to do." Yet still nothing. Show us the scouting reports on the lineups of the other teams playing. Both the "stars" and the guys most of us have never seen or even heard of. Combine that with the guys we have and see what history, if any, there is. If no history, show us the scouting reports that tell what their weaknesses are and how the guys we opted for can or can not take advantage of those weaknesses over other guys from the first couple lists. Fill us in on the game plans this coaching staff is putting together for each team they are scheduled to play through the first two rounds at least. Show us.

 

Won't happen. Not because those lists don't exist, but because they aren't public knowledge. Our coaching staff has those lists and are using them right now. No one can possibly think they are just sitting around on their rumps thinking that just because we are Team USA that we will win this thing, so no planning and brainstorming is needed. Not after the last WBC. So like I said before, anyone that says a certain player dosen't deserve the shot or that he won't make the team is throwing an unwarranted, self-rightous, judgemental rant and should be taken no other way. And anyone that says "That isn't the way I would do it", is probably showing why he isn't doing it. They should send their resumes in for the next WBC. And I am 99.99% sure they will instead be right back here telling us all how someone dosen't deserve the shot at competeing for his home country because "He isn't the player I would pick."

 

I agree with you 100%, by the way that was very well written.

 

I'm fairly new to this forum and for the most part I have enjoyed posting my opinion. I am with you about supporting any player getting the opportunity to play for his country. Perhaps the U.S will play the Dominican Republic and Albert Pujols will come up to bat with the U.S. team needing an out. I know for a fact that Pujols is 0-4 with 3 strikeouts and a pop out to first in his career against Lindstrom. No disregard to Pujols because he is arguably the best hitter in the game, but for those who are infatuated with stats this could be the single reason that he makes the team? Matchups, situations, ability, and wanting to win the whole thing is perhaps the motivation behind the coaches selecting certain players to play for our team. I wish our team well and any player who got the call a lot of success-even if it means not playing all that much. You have to admit just sitting with some of the best players in the U.S would be awesome schooling. Rubbing shoulders and being around players that have had success in their careers (due to the fact that they prepare each day to win) will help a player like Lindstrom considering this will be his first year to be the closer in MLB. If he's there, he can only learn things that will help him be a better baseball player. That' alone is exciting for our club!

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I dont think Paplebon is a great reliever but hes better than Matt right now. Also i wonder if the red sonx even allowed Paplebon to be a canidate for the usa roster. I know after the season all teams fill out forms for players they will allow to play. At least thats waht it said in the anibal sanchez article.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I dont think Paplebon is a great reliever but hes better than Matt right now. Also i wonder if the red sonx even allowed Paplebon to be a canidate for the usa roster. I know after the season all teams fill out forms for players they will allow to play. At least thats waht it said in the anibal sanchez article.

 

 

Huh?

 

Papelbon first 3 years as closer.

 

2006: 59 G, 4-2, 35 saves, 69 innings (75 K/13 BB), .92 ERA, .78 WHIP

2007: 59 G, 1-3, 37 saves, 59 innings (84 K/15 BB), 1.85 ERA, .77 WHIP

2008: 67 G, 5-4, 41 saves, 70 innings (77 K/8 BB), 2.34 ERA, .95 WHIP

 

He IS a great reliever. He's also has a career 0.00 ERA in 16 career postseason games. I suppose since we continue to use small sample hypotheticals, I can use one too. Papelbon is better suited for high pressure situations, as well. Booyah?

 

Seriously, if Papelbon isn't a great reliever, what does that make Lindstrom, then? Mediocre?

 

Some of you can't be serious with some of this.

 

Lindstrom, in his good stretches, hasn't even been as good as Papelbon. Lindstrom was so bad in the 1st half last year that the Marlins sent him to the minors to "work on his stuff."

 

The 2 don't even compare, and the only logical reason as to why Lindstrom would be selected over Papelbon would be a) Papelbon declined the invitation...or... b) The Red Sox didn't let him (as you said).

IMO Paps is a great reliver because 1 he isn't intemidated by anyone 2 He has filthy stuff with great control and 3 because he used to be a starter, so 1 or 2 Innings is really nothing for him. I know being a closer give you pressure and all that but as being a starter converted into a closer myself its not really that difficult getting through 1 Inning when your used to at least 5 or 6 a game..

 

But Paps is dominating and Lindstrom can be too but he only had 5 saves in 5 oppurtunities last season so hopefully this season he can show how good he can be as a closer.

 

Oh and Erick i kinda agree with you, There are plenty of american relivers better then Lindy and they probably will play more then him but atleast he got invited to play for his countries team and thats an Honor in itself.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I dont think Paplebon is a great reliever but hes better than Matt right now. Also i wonder if the red sonx even allowed Paplebon to be a canidate for the usa roster. I know after the season all teams fill out forms for players they will allow to play. At least thats waht it said in the anibal sanchez article.

 

 

Huh?

 

Papelbon first 3 years as closer.

 

2006: 59 G, 4-2, 35 saves, 69 innings (75 K/13 BB), .92 ERA, .78 WHIP

2007: 59 G, 1-3, 37 saves, 59 innings (84 K/15 BB), 1.85 ERA, .77 WHIP

2008: 67 G, 5-4, 41 saves, 70 innings (77 K/8 BB), 2.34 ERA, .95 WHIP

 

He IS a great reliever. He's also has a career 0.00 ERA in 16 career postseason games. I suppose since we continue to use small sample hypotheticals, I can use one too. Papelbon is better suited for high pressure situations, as well. Booyah?

 

Seriously, if Papelbon isn't a great reliever, what does that make Lindstrom, then? Mediocre?

 

Some of you can't be serious with some of this.

 

Lindstrom, in his good stretches, hasn't even been as good as Papelbon. Lindstrom was so bad in the 1st half last year that the Marlins sent him to the minors to "work on his stuff."

 

The 2 don't even compare, and the only logical reason as to why Lindstrom would be selected over Papelbon would be a) Papelbon declined the invitation...or... b) The Red Sox didn't let him (as you said).

Yes matt is mediocre to me right now.

I would take Paplebon every time over every colser/ reliever except for rivera right now but Im not calling him great yet. I have a thing where I wont call a guy great in baseball till he consistently performs at a high lever for 5 years at least. Them Ill call them great. Its just me

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I dont think Paplebon is a great reliever but hes better than Matt right now. Also i wonder if the red sonx even allowed Paplebon to be a canidate for the usa roster. I know after the season all teams fill out forms for players they will allow to play. At least thats waht it said in the anibal sanchez article.

 

 

Huh?

 

Papelbon first 3 years as closer.

 

2006: 59 G, 4-2, 35 saves, 69 innings (75 K/13 BB), .92 ERA, .78 WHIP

2007: 59 G, 1-3, 37 saves, 59 innings (84 K/15 BB), 1.85 ERA, .77 WHIP

2008: 67 G, 5-4, 41 saves, 70 innings (77 K/8 BB), 2.34 ERA, .95 WHIP

 

He IS a great reliever. He's also has a career 0.00 ERA in 16 career postseason games. I suppose since we continue to use small sample hypotheticals, I can use one too. Papelbon is better suited for high pressure situations, as well. Booyah?

 

Seriously, if Papelbon isn't a great reliever, what does that make Lindstrom, then? Mediocre?

 

Some of you can't be serious with some of this.

 

Lindstrom, in his good stretches, hasn't even been as good as Papelbon. Lindstrom was so bad in the 1st half last year that the Marlins sent him to the minors to "work on his stuff."

 

The 2 don't even compare, and the only logical reason as to why Lindstrom would be selected over Papelbon would be a) Papelbon declined the invitation...or... b) The Red Sox didn't let him (as you said).

Yes matt is mediocre to me right now.

I would take Paplebon every time over every colser/ reliever except for rivera right now but Im not calling him great yet. I have a thing where I wont call a guy great in baseball till he consistently performs at a high lever for 5 years at least. Them Ill call them great. Its just me

 

 

Ok, fair enough.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

Why do you assume my responses are directed towards you? Just becasue you are the biggest critic and antagonist on this forum doesn't mean your opinion is superior to everone else's. You can highly doubt, but you don't highly know that that's what happened with Papelbon. I agree with you that Papelbon is better, who wouldn't? Do you know for a fact that they asked Papelbon? whether he declined or not? (I'm just asking-I honestly don't know) All we know for a fact is that Lindstrom was invited-that's all we have to go on. The Pujols scenerio was just an example, are you really that naive? I was just trying to make a point as to why Lindstrom might be selected, not trying to say he is better than anybody.

You are missing the point of the previous posts. The point is that you aren't inviting the players to the WBC, professional minds are. They aren't putting together an all-star team, they are trying to win. For some reasons that neither you or I know, there are some players who are not playing or who had declined invitation. You are speculating and asking why he was selected. Others are saying, yes, Matt Lindstrom isn't one of the best closers in the game, but we are happy for him because of his selection (what an honor for him). You and I can agree or disagree, but when it comes down to it what we think doesn't matter. All we can do is support since he was chosen to play for our country.

You know what would be great. If the championship game came down to USA vs DR. Pujols is up with bases loaded in the 8th in a one run game, they bring in Lindstrom and he strikes him out.

 

I had to say the 8th, before all you haters turned this into a, do you really think Lindstrom will be pitching the 9th, maybe i shouldnt even use the 8th. So for all you haters, just think its in extra innings and all the other pitchers you may have already used are out of the game.

 

Not saying this will happen, dont even know if its even possible for both of these teams to meet in the championship game. But just saying, how nice would it be.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

Why do you assume my responses are directed towards you? Just becasue you are the biggest critic and antagonist on this forum doesn't mean your opinion is superior to everone else's. You can highly doubt, but you don't highly know that that's what happened with Papelbon. I agree with you that Papelbon is better, who wouldn't? Do you know for a fact that they asked Papelbon? whether he declined or not? (I'm just asking-I honestly don't know) All we know for a fact is that Lindstrom was invited-that's all we have to go on. The Pujols scenerio was just an example, are you really that naive? I was just trying to make a point as to why Lindstrom might be selected, not trying to say he is better than anybody.

You are missing the point of the previous posts. The point is that you aren't inviting the players to the WBC, professional minds are. They aren't putting together an all-star team, they are trying to win. For some reasons that neither you or I know, there are some players who are not playing or who had declined invitation. You are speculating and asking why he was selected. Others are saying, yes, Matt Lindstrom isn't one of the best closers in the game, but we are happy for him because of his selection (what an honor for him). You and I can agree or disagree, but when it comes down to it what we think doesn't matter. All we can do is support since he was chosen to play for our country.

 

 

I don't know...why do you assume my response was directed towards you? B/c really...a good portion of it was not.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I don't think you are missing the point. I think you are ignoring it so you won't have to admit you were wrong in your original statement. Evidence of this is that no lists have been posted with the links.

 

You must be thinkg that first, EVERY American born player was going to be eligable to play. By their own accord and by their team's. In other words, the USA team wasn't "asking" players to participate, it was an order that no one could refuse. Second is a combination of the first and some sort of conspiracy theory gone awry. Because everyone in authority hates us so much they planned it this way. Knowing they could essentially get any American on this team they wanted they decided to put one of the Marlins promising young relievers, one that is penciled in as the closer in fact, on the provisional list of 45 just so they could cut him and thusly degrade him, his team, and their fan base. Your proof would be we have other pitchers on this team that are probably better than Lindy. Our SPs, for example, could be used in relief. And/or that OUR powers that be are so inept at baseball stats and planning that they completely failed yo get the very best team together they could, especially seeing everyone just HAD to say yes if "asked."

 

READ what people are saying. Or have someone else read and interpret it for you. The obvious reasons and answers are there even if you do choose to ignore them.

 

Of course most of us could be wrong in our assesments of the situation. All it would take to prove that is to share those lists, scouting reports, and game plans that only the coaching staff and apparently you have available. Not to mention the memos that went out to the teams saying if a player was asked he had to go.

 

Take your time. We will wait.

 

BTW All the cussing dosen't make you sound big and tough or superior in any way. Quite the opposite, in fact.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I don't think you are missing the point. I think you are ignoring it so you won't have to admit you were wrong in your original statement. Evidence of this is that no lists have been posted with the links.

 

You must be thinkg that first, EVERY American born player was going to be eligable to play. By their own accord and by their team's. In other words, the USA team wasn't "asking" players to participate, it was an order that no one could refuse. Second is a combination of the first and some sort of conspiracy theory gone awry. Because everyone in authority hates us so much they planned it this way. Knowing they could essentially get any American on this team they wanted they decided to put one of the Marlins promising young relievers, one that is penciled in as the closer in fact, on the provisional list of 45 just so they could cut him and thusly degrade him, his team, and their fan base. Your proof would be we have other pitchers on this team that are probably better than Lindy. Our SPs, for example, could be used in relief. And/or that OUR powers that be are so inept at baseball stats and planning that they completely failed yo get the very best team together they could, especially seeing everyone just HAD to say yes if "asked."

 

READ what people are saying. Or have someone else read and interpret it for you. The obvious reasons and answers are there even if you do choose to ignore them.

 

Of course most of us could be wrong in our assesments of the situation. All it would take to prove that is to share those lists, scouting reports, and game plans that only the coaching staff and apparently you have available. Not to mention the memos that went out to the teams saying if a player was asked he had to go.

 

Take your time. We will wait.

 

BTW All the cussing dosen't make you sound big and tough or superior in any way. Quite the opposite, in fact.

 

 

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you. Perhaps, it is you and your old eyes that are having trouble b/c I have named several relievers who are better than Matt Lindstrom already. Do I have to post them about 100 times for you to see the point?

 

Whether they declined the invitation, or their organizations disallowed them to go is a different story. With that said, that really isn't my point. My point is that Matt Lindstrom isn't chosen for this team if they're just strictly picking the best players. And that goes for your "building a team" crap, as well.

 

Now take off the little homer glasses...and perhaps YOU READ a little bit more this time...hmmkay?

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you.

 

Apparently you cant. Because he has stated many times we dont know which pitchers have been asked to join and which pitchers have turned down the invitation.

 

But, the facts we do know, are the ones that were invited and accepted to be on the team, and Lindstrom was one of them.

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you.

 

Apparently you cant. Because he has stated many times we dont know which pitchers have been asked to join and which pitchers have turned down the invitation.

 

But, the facts we do know, are the ones that were invited and accepted to be on the team, and Lindstrom was one of them.

 

 

And I have stated many times that I don't know that, either.

 

If people would read what I wrote...they'd see that I'm, basically, saying that Lindstrom wouldn't be on this team if the U.S. was just taking the best players...and when I say best players, I also mean "best players for the team."

 

Whether that's a known fact or not...perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. However, if they chose Lindstrom over the Papelbon's of the world by choice...I'm simply stating that the people who made the selections...are morons. And I don't see how anyone could argue such a thing.

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you.

 

Apparently you cant. Because he has stated many times we dont know which pitchers have been asked to join and which pitchers have turned down the invitation.

 

But, the facts we do know, are the ones that were invited and accepted to be on the team, and Lindstrom was one of them.

 

 

And I have stated many times that I don't know that, either.

 

If people would read what I wrote...they'd see that I'm, basically, saying that Lindstrom wouldn't be on this team if the U.S. was just taking the best players...and when I say best players, I also mean "best players for the team."

 

Whether that's a known fact or not...perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. However, if they chose Lindstrom over the Papelbon's of the world by choice...I'm simply stating that the people who made the selections...are morons. And I don't see how anyone could argue such a thing.

 

I just don't see the purpose of this commentary except to minimize Lindstrom's achievement...Why?!!! What's the use of it? It's like saying He was invited but doesnt deserve it or worse just because he was invited he still sucks. Erick I am tired of the putdowns enough is enough. Lets just stop it here already. I hope Lindstrom dominates in the WBC and if he happens to get lit up I will still applaud him for his effort and spirit of competition. He is a Marlin Dammit, one of our own, enough said!

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you.

 

Apparently you cant. Because he has stated many times we dont know which pitchers have been asked to join and which pitchers have turned down the invitation.

 

But, the facts we do know, are the ones that were invited and accepted to be on the team, and Lindstrom was one of them.

 

 

And I have stated many times that I don't know that, either.

 

If people would read what I wrote...they'd see that I'm, basically, saying that Lindstrom wouldn't be on this team if the U.S. was just taking the best players...and when I say best players, I also mean "best players for the team."

 

Whether that's a known fact or not...perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. However, if they chose Lindstrom over the Papelbon's of the world by choice...I'm simply stating that the people who made the selections...are morons. And I don't see how anyone could argue such a thing.

 

I just don't see the purpose of this commentary except to minimize Lindstrom's achievement...Why?!!! What's the use of it? It's like saying He was invited but doesnt deserve it or worse just because he was invited he still sucks. Erick I am tired of the putdowns enough is enough. Lets just stop it here already. I hope Lindstrom dominates in the WBC and if he happens to get lit up I will still applaud him for his effort and spirit of competition. He is a Marlin Dammit, one of our own, enough said!

 

 

Lindstrom doesn't suck. He's a solid reliever.

He's just not better than some of the guys who are not on the team, however.

 

How's that a knock on Lindstrom? Why should I be banned of my word for saying so?

 

Let me get this straight...I should just support this all the way b/c he's a Marlin? How would you feel if the Dominicans decided to start Reyes over Hanley? I'd bet you'd throw a little hissy-fit too.

I wish they would start Reyes over Hanley, that way the USA has a better chance of winning it all.

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you.

 

Apparently you cant. Because he has stated many times we dont know which pitchers have been asked to join and which pitchers have turned down the invitation.

 

But, the facts we do know, are the ones that were invited and accepted to be on the team, and Lindstrom was one of them.

 

 

And I have stated many times that I don't know that, either.

 

If people would read what I wrote...they'd see that I'm, basically, saying that Lindstrom wouldn't be on this team if the U.S. was just taking the best players...and when I say best players, I also mean "best players for the team."

 

Whether that's a known fact or not...perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. However, if they chose Lindstrom over the Papelbon's of the world by choice...I'm simply stating that the people who made the selections...are morons. And I don't see how anyone could argue such a thing.

 

I just don't see the purpose of this commentary except to minimize Lindstrom's achievement...Why?!!! What's the use of it? It's like saying He was invited but doesnt deserve it or worse just because he was invited he still sucks. Erick I am tired of the putdowns enough is enough. Lets just stop it here already. I hope Lindstrom dominates in the WBC and if he happens to get lit up I will still applaud him for his effort and spirit of competition. He is a Marlin Dammit, one of our own, enough said!

 

 

Lindstrom doesn't suck. He's a solid reliever.

He's just not better than some of the guys who are not on the team, however.

 

How's that a knock on Lindstrom? Why should I be banned of my word for saying so?

 

Let me get this straight...I should just support this all the way b/c he's a Marlin? How would you feel if the Dominicans decided to start Reyes over Hanley? I'd bet you'd throw a little hissy-fit too.

 

Hey if the DR wants to throw the WBC im fine with it.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I don't think you are missing the point. I think you are ignoring it so you won't have to admit you were wrong in your original statement. Evidence of this is that no lists have been posted with the links.

 

You must be thinkg that first, EVERY American born player was going to be eligable to play. By their own accord and by their team's. In other words, the USA team wasn't "asking" players to participate, it was an order that no one could refuse. Second is a combination of the first and some sort of conspiracy theory gone awry. Because everyone in authority hates us so much they planned it this way. Knowing they could essentially get any American on this team they wanted they decided to put one of the Marlins promising young relievers, one that is penciled in as the closer in fact, on the provisional list of 45 just so they could cut him and thusly degrade him, his team, and their fan base. Your proof would be we have other pitchers on this team that are probably better than Lindy. Our SPs, for example, could be used in relief. And/or that OUR powers that be are so inept at baseball stats and planning that they completely failed yo get the very best team together they could, especially seeing everyone just HAD to say yes if "asked."

 

READ what people are saying. Or have someone else read and interpret it for you. The obvious reasons and answers are there even if you do choose to ignore them.

 

Of course most of us could be wrong in our assesments of the situation. All it would take to prove that is to share those lists, scouting reports, and game plans that only the coaching staff and apparently you have available. Not to mention the memos that went out to the teams saying if a player was asked he had to go.

 

Take your time. We will wait.

 

BTW All the cussing dosen't make you sound big and tough or superior in any way. Quite the opposite, in fact.

 

 

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you. Perhaps, it is you and your old eyes that are having trouble b/c I have named several relievers who are better than Matt Lindstrom already. Do I have to post them about 100 times for you to see the point?

 

Whether they declined the invitation, or their organizations disallowed them to go is a different story. With that said, that really isn't my point. My point is that Matt Lindstrom isn't chosen for this team if they're just strictly picking the best players. And that goes for your "building a team" crap, as well.

 

Now take off the little homer glasses...and perhaps YOU READ a little bit more this time...hmmkay?

 

Apparently not. And all the put downs, foul laguage, and name calling won't divert anyone's attention away from that. But nice try.

 

BTW I'm not your "buddy." I actually care about the people I am associated with. You don't make that list.

 

Short post. To the Point. You should be able to comprehend it. We will see.

I still fail to see how sending an average reliever like Matt Lindstrom is "better for the team" than sending...oh, I don't know...a great reliever like Jonathan Papelbon, perhaps?

 

As for the little rants on me...get a f***ing clue. I'm not anti-Matt Lindstrom, I just so happen to have a different opinion on this. I highly f***ing doubt that the U.S. selected Lindstrom over a guy like Papelbon b/c Lindy has gotten Pujols to go 0-4 with 3 K's (not to mention, 4 AB's is not a good sample size, either).

 

I don't want Lindstrom to fail, I do think Lindstrom will have an ok year next year as our closer...but if I said I thought he deserved a spot on this team, I'd be lying to you. And again, that's not a knock on Lindstrom; it's just the fact that the United States is loaded with good pitching. Any other country, and I, most likely, wouldn't be saying the same thing.

 

I don't think you are missing the point. I think you are ignoring it so you won't have to admit you were wrong in your original statement. Evidence of this is that no lists have been posted with the links.

 

You must be thinkg that first, EVERY American born player was going to be eligable to play. By their own accord and by their team's. In other words, the USA team wasn't "asking" players to participate, it was an order that no one could refuse. Second is a combination of the first and some sort of conspiracy theory gone awry. Because everyone in authority hates us so much they planned it this way. Knowing they could essentially get any American on this team they wanted they decided to put one of the Marlins promising young relievers, one that is penciled in as the closer in fact, on the provisional list of 45 just so they could cut him and thusly degrade him, his team, and their fan base. Your proof would be we have other pitchers on this team that are probably better than Lindy. Our SPs, for example, could be used in relief. And/or that OUR powers that be are so inept at baseball stats and planning that they completely failed yo get the very best team together they could, especially seeing everyone just HAD to say yes if "asked."

 

READ what people are saying. Or have someone else read and interpret it for you. The obvious reasons and answers are there even if you do choose to ignore them.

 

Of course most of us could be wrong in our assesments of the situation. All it would take to prove that is to share those lists, scouting reports, and game plans that only the coaching staff and apparently you have available. Not to mention the memos that went out to the teams saying if a player was asked he had to go.

 

Take your time. We will wait.

 

BTW All the cussing dosen't make you sound big and tough or superior in any way. Quite the opposite, in fact.

 

 

What lists would you like, buddy?

I can READ just fine, thank you. Perhaps, it is you and your old eyes that are having trouble b/c I have named several relievers who are better than Matt Lindstrom already. Do I have to post them about 100 times for you to see the point?

 

Whether they declined the invitation, or their organizations disallowed them to go is a different story. With that said, that really isn't my point. My point is that Matt Lindstrom isn't chosen for this team if they're just strictly picking the best players. And that goes for your "building a team" crap, as well.

 

Now take off the little homer glasses...and perhaps YOU READ a little bit more this time...hmmkay?

 

Apparently not. And all the put downs, foul laguage, and name calling won't divert anyone's attention away from that. But nice try.

 

BTW I'm not your "buddy." I actually care about the people I am associated with. You don't make that list.

 

Short post. To the Point. You should be able to comprehend it. We will see.

 

Yeah, that post brought a lot to this thread..."buddy."