August 15, 200917 yr Just bringing this back up.... Nunez is a risk. The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course.
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are!
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! We've beaten some good teams with these risk's and yes it is amazing that we are where we are. Keep riding the winning wave I guess.
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! Be happy our offense has been playing the way it has.Our pitching is not very good.
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! We've beaten some good teams with these risk's and yes it is amazing that we are where we are. Keep riding the winning wave I guess. The reason being that he's wrong, and the team hasn't been that bad. Our bullpen hasn't been that bad, Ricky Nolasco's been just been fine since coming back from the minors (I wouldn't call him a risk), and our OF isn't nearly as bad as he said it would be (in a previous thread that he started a couple months ago, which he still hasn't admitted to being wrong too...he did bump it once though when the #'s were in his favor just to say he was right).
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! Be happy our offense has been playing the way it has.Our pitching is not very good. It's also not as terrible as you've made it out to be. Then again, you're the guy who thinks we need Adam Dunn b/c our corner OF will be our downfall. So I guess I'm happier that you're nowhere near the GM job.
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! Be happy our offense has been playing the way it has.Our pitching is not very good. It's also not as terrible as you've made it out to be. Then again, you're the guy who thinks we need Adam Dunn b/c our corner OF will be our downfall. So I guess I'm happier that you're nowhere near the GM job. Adam Dunn or Jeremy Hermida?.I will go with Jeremy Hermida.
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! Be happy our offense has been playing the way it has.Our pitching is not very good. It's also not as terrible as you've made it out to be. Then again, you're the guy who thinks we need Adam Dunn b/c our corner OF will be our downfall. So I guess I'm happier that you're nowhere near the GM job. Adam Dunn or Jeremy Hermida?.I will go with Jeremy Hermida. Adam Dunn is a great RF'er, too. And he would've cost us nothing in terms of salary and top-notch prospects............. PS - Funny how you no longer mention Cody Ross? Wasn't he part of that "downfall corner OF," as well?
August 15, 200917 yr The whole bullpen and Starting rotation are a risk!.Except Joshy of course. Really? Gee, with a whole bullpen and 80% of the rotation being a risk (not to mention the fact that our corner OF'ers will absolutely kill us!), it's amazing that we are where we are! We've beaten some good teams with these risk's and yes it is amazing that we are where we are. Keep riding the winning wave I guess. The reason being that he's wrong, and the team hasn't been that bad. Our bullpen hasn't been that bad, Ricky Nolasco's been just been fine since coming back from the minors (I wouldn't call him a risk), and our OF isn't nearly as bad as he said it would be (in a previous thread that he started a couple months ago, which he still hasn't admitted to being wrong too...he did bump it once though when the #'s were in his favor just to say he was right). I got you. I didn't know ya'll had a history and I knew nothing about previous threads. I don't think the team has been bad at all. Bullpen scary sometimes and starting pitching too. Oh well it matters how you finish the season and remember last year when the Marlins didn't win back to back games he whole month of August. Yeah we've surpassed that and more so far this month. The race is going to be fun to watch if they keep hitting like this.
August 15, 200917 yr ADAM DUNN WAS A FREE AGENT. And the Nationals are paying him $20 million over this season and 2010, which would be nearly a third of our payroll. Besides, he's not even that good.
August 15, 200917 yr Come on, I mean nobody here can deny that it wouldn't be nice to have a guy who has 30 HR's and a .977 OPS presence in the lineup. That is just sure bitterness that is speaking because you don't like the person who posted it. Anyway Dunn is a terrible defensive player, he is like a statue out there. But I would take the errors and lapses of judgement that would've come with Dunn in LF for the bat he contains. The problem is looking ahead, if we signed Dunn, we don't go out and get Nick Johnson. If we have Dunn, we don't call up Coghlan as he has no place to start (because we all know Bonifacio>Coghlan for most of the season amirite?), and basically if we get Dunn we are paying for a two year guy to be a home run or strikeout hitter. If we wanted an Adam Dunn type hitter, we could've gone a hell of a lot cheaper and just kept Mike Jacobs for the next few years.
August 15, 200917 yr Come on, I mean nobody here can deny that it wouldn't be nice to have a guy who has 30 HR's and a .977 OPS presence in the lineup. That is just sure bitterness that is speaking because you don't like the person who posted it. Anyway Dunn is a terrible defensive player, he is like a statue out there. But I would take the errors and lapses of judgement that would've come with Dunn in LF for the bat he contains. The problem is looking ahead, if we signed Dunn, we don't go out and get Nick Johnson. If we have Dunn, we don't call up Coghlan as he has no place to start (because we all know Bonifacio>Coghlan for most of the season amirite?), and basically if we get Dunn we are paying for a two year guy to be a home run or strikeout hitter. If we wanted an Adam Dunn type hitter, we could've gone a hell of a lot cheaper and just kept Mike Jacobs for the next few years. The world will explode before Jacobs has a .400+ OBP. I would love to have had Dunn, not matter how bad his defense is, but not for $10M a year.
August 15, 200917 yr ADAM DUNN WAS A FREE AGENT. And the Nationals are paying him $20 million over this season and 2010, which would be nearly a third of our payroll. Besides, he's not even that good. Say what you want about payroll issues, but Adam Dunn has more HR & RBIs so far this year than any Marlin and by a healthy margin, along with an OBP over 400, and all that on one of the worst teams in baseball. And not to mention that he would provide that power from left side whereas all the current Marlin power threats are on the opposite side. If could've been had at the same price and under the same circumstances as Nick Johnson than it would have been a better deal no matter where you play him. Whoever prefers having Jeremy Hermida on your team over Adam Dunn, I just don't even know what to say... Speaking of though, I would like to see the Marlins trade Hermida to Boston for John Smoltz to come in as closer and bring up Maybin to play CF with Cody in RF. But that's just me.
August 15, 200917 yr Come on, I mean nobody here can deny that it wouldn't be nice to have a guy who has 30 HR's and a .977 OPS presence in the lineup. That is just sure bitterness that is speaking because you don't like the person who posted it. Anyway Dunn is a terrible defensive player, he is like a statue out there. But I would take the errors and lapses of judgement that would've come with Dunn in LF for the bat he contains. The problem is looking ahead, if we signed Dunn, we don't go out and get Nick Johnson. If we have Dunn, we don't call up Coghlan as he has no place to start (because we all know Bonifacio>Coghlan for most of the season amirite?), and basically if we get Dunn we are paying for a two year guy to be a home run or strikeout hitter. If we wanted an Adam Dunn type hitter, we could've gone a hell of a lot cheaper and just kept Mike Jacobs for the next few years. To be fair, while he's not a great fit, that's a terrible comparison. Dunn is 10x better than Jacobs, and I'm being nice to Mike Jacobs by saying such a thing.
August 15, 200917 yr ADAM DUNN WAS A FREE AGENT. And the Nationals are paying him $20 million over this season and 2010, which would be nearly a third of our payroll. Besides, he's not even that good. Say what you want about payroll issues, but Adam Dunn has more HR & RBIs so far this year than any Marlin and by a healthy margin, along with an OBP over 400, and all that on one of the worst teams in baseball. And not to mention that he would provide that power from left side whereas all the current Marlin power threats are on the opposite side. If could've been had at the same price and under the same circumstances as Nick Johnson than it would have been a better deal no matter where you play him. Whoever prefers having Jeremy Hermida on your team over Adam Dunn, I just don't even know what to say... Speaking of though, I would like to see the Marlins trade Hermida to Boston for John Smoltz to come in as closer and bring up Maybin to play CF with Cody in RF. But that's just me. Of course no one would prefer having Jeremy Hermida over Adam Dunn if they came at the same price, and no one said that. But that's the thing, they don't. Dunn is also a very overrated player, since many people forget how horrible of a right fielder he is (yes, much worse than Hermida.) Fact is, we would have had to pay Dunn $10 million this year if we wanted him, which, obviously, isn't the type of money our FO likes to spend. By the way, Dunn has Nyjer Morgan, Christian Guzman, and Ryan Zimmerman all hitting in front of him. They're actually an above-average offensive team (at least before they traded away Nick Johnson.)
August 15, 200917 yr Dunn isn't overrated. He's a DH playing RF. It isn't necessarily a matter of being overrated, but his value is much lower in the NL than in the AL. Since many people seem to disregard defense though, or at least think of offense as much more important than defense, then yes, he is usually overrated by many people.
August 15, 200917 yr Back to the closer thing. Leo should keep the closer title. Let him get in his groove and see where it takes us. But now is not the time for experimenting with other pitchers.
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