April 20, 201016 yr As I watch telecasts of the Twins, Phillies, and all the other teams that have recently built new stadiums, their food looks amazing! What types of food can we expect to see? I really hope it's not the same old boring stuff we see in Sun Life, or whatever it's called lately...
April 20, 201016 yr They should do what the Yankees do... have a section for restaurants in the area to sell stuff. For example, we can have Versailles, a BBQ place like Shorty's, Sports Grill, etc.
April 21, 201016 yr They should do what the Yankees do... have a section for restaurants in the area to sell stuff. For example, we can have Versailles, a BBQ place like Shorty's, Sports Grill, etc. A Versailles or La Carreta would be EPIC!!!
April 21, 201016 yr Author Any chance they could make a contract with Arbetter's? Can you imagine having an Arbetter hot dog at the ball park?
April 21, 201016 yr I actually talked to someone in the marlins org about this. They are looking for a place like Joes Stone Crab to be the highlight of dining options in the new stadium (he named the restaurant). But was he talking about inside the stadium or the "out" buildings?
April 21, 201016 yr I'm not too knowledgeable on this topic and don't know what contractual rights the concessions providers have (like Aramark), but I have been to a ton of ballparks that feature food that is not attached to a major established company. The Nationals ballpark has Ben's Chili Bowl inside the stadium, the famous DC hot dog joint . Camden Yards features items from one of the local Jewish delis (it's mainly corned beef but I think they have kosher dogs). Citizens Bank Park has cheesesteaks from Campo's, a local deli in Old City. I would categorize all of these places as small businesses.
April 21, 201016 yr They said they would like to have a restraint in the stadium that was open year round, like a sports bar to watch football, MMA, etc...
April 21, 201016 yr I know the layout is obviously different between football and baseball stadiums, but when I took a tour of Raymond James Stadium last summer, I found it pretty cool how they had a sort of pirate village next to the ship running the whole way along behind the endzone featuring a row of "huts" each selling different food and drink.
April 21, 201016 yr I'm not too knowledgeable on this topic and don't know what contractual rights the concessions providers have (like Aramark), but I have been to a ton of ballparks that feature food that is not attached to a major established company. The Nationals ballpark has Ben's Chili Bowl inside the stadium, the famous DC hot dog joint . Camden Yards features items from one of the local Jewish delis (it's mainly corned beef but I think they have kosher dogs). Citizens Bank Park has cheesesteaks from Campo's, a local deli in Old City. I would categorize all of these places as small businesses. When we went to Camden, we had Boog's BBQ. Amazing!
April 22, 201016 yr I know the layout is obviously different between football and baseball stadiums, but when I took a tour of Raymond James Stadium last summer, I found it pretty cool how they had a sort of pirate village next to the ship running the whole way along behind the endzone featuring a row of "huts" each selling different food and drink. Coors Field has something similar. I doubt we will because that's where those sliding glass walls will be.
April 22, 201016 yr They said they would like to have a restraint in the stadium that was open year round, like a sports bar to watch football, MMA, etc... Yea. I refer to them as "out buildings." I think they will actually be attached to the stadium but are accessable year round for walk up customers not going to the games. In fact, last Holiday Party we were told the next one would be held at the new pond. I don't know if that was just hopeful thinking on Samson's part or if he knows at least some of that part will be done by this December.
April 22, 201016 yr I'm not too knowledgeable on this topic and don't know what contractual rights the concessions providers have (like Aramark), but I have been to a ton of ballparks that feature food that is not attached to a major established company. The Nationals ballpark has Ben's Chili Bowl inside the stadium, the famous DC hot dog joint . Camden Yards features items from one of the local Jewish delis (it's mainly corned beef but I think they have kosher dogs). Citizens Bank Park has cheesesteaks from Campo's, a local deli in Old City. I would categorize all of these places as small businesses. Oh of course. I was talking about the new marlins stadium only. Everything I said was also regurgitated from a Marlins exec. I don't know much on this topic either. But it is very interesting. I want to know more, but lost the execs phone number (i h8 my iphone). I think someone might be misinformed. It is correct that each vendor must be approved by the concessions contractor. I believe Sun Life Stadium uses Centerplate, but I'm not certain. The Nationals, I believe, also use Centerplate. Local venders, such as Ben's Chili Bowl, have entered into contract with Centerplate to sell inside the stadium. Centerplate gives Ben's permission to sell, but also keeps a certain percentage of the revenue. In this respect, I think the executive is right on. What baffles me is the fact that he thinks this is a undesirable business arrangement. Ben's Chili bowl earns money because it is a local favorite and can charge ballpark food prices. Centerplate earns money because Ben's hot dogs are popular and would probably sell better than generic hot dogs. Neither the vendor nor the contractor is getting cheated here. It's certainly feasible to have local foods in the ballpark; that's why virtually every MLB park has them. It's true that some unknown hole in the wall joint is unlikely to be given a contract to sell inside the stadium, but I see nothing that should prevent local small businesses with name recognition from being granted permission from selling inside the ballpark. Again, there might be more to this that I don't know about, but my senses tell me that if the Marlins wanted local food joints inside the stadium, they could get them.
April 22, 201016 yr Ive never eaten there but you would think something like Skullys Tavern would do good there. I saw the place on Food Networks Diners, Drive-ins, and Dive's and it looked like something that could fit. They have like regular bar food and then gourmet food as well. Some of the stuff looked awesome.
April 23, 201016 yr Why can't the Marlins ballpark turn a profit from these arrangements while every other park in America does? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am curious to know what these obstacles are.
April 23, 201016 yr I guess just substitute "small business" for "ballpark" in what I said above. The argument seems to be that the small business would operate after a loss after the concessionaire (like Centerplate) takes its cut. This does not seem to be the case in most ballparks in this country. Centerplate does the hiring and staffing for Ben's Chili Bowl at Nats ballpark, so Ben's isn't covering all of the operating costs. They can also get away with charging inflated ballpark prices for their products. In the end, I could see this dynamic making it less lucrative for the small business in the end, but I think they would still ultimately be turning profits.
April 23, 201016 yr Ive never eaten there but you would think something like Skullys Tavern would do good there. I saw the place on Food Networks Diners, Drive-ins, and Dive's and it looked like something that could fit. They have like regular bar food and then gourmet food as well. Some of the stuff looked awesome. Scully's is pretty good. I prefer Sports Grill or the Village Tavern, but that's me. What about Flanigan's? Yum!
April 24, 201016 yr Ive never eaten there but you would think something like Skullys Tavern would do good there. I saw the place on Food Networks Diners, Drive-ins, and Dive's and it looked like something that could fit. They have like regular bar food and then gourmet food as well. Some of the stuff looked awesome. Scully's is pretty good. I prefer Sports Grill or the Village Tavern, but that's me. What about Flanigan's? Yum! I'm not much into franchise type places, even tho I think at least one of the places will be of that variety. And I don't have to be. They seem to be doing very well without my patronage right now. From the Marlins web site.... 'The plaza of the new ballpark will have restaurants and sports bars that will be accessible from the street, and they will be open year round. Where the Marlins currently play, there aren't surrounding spots to dine or shop before a game. The new park projects to have plenty of entertainment and dining options, making attending early and staying late after the game an option' Sounds like that is hinting at a franchise or two.
April 26, 201016 yr Scully's is wayyyy better than Sports Grille or Kings Tavern, Mirs. Although the Teriyaki wings at sports grille are epic, you can't beat the smoked fish dip, dolphin fingers or the churrasco tid bits, Scully's takes it hands-down. Sports grille and Kings Tavern have great bar food, Scully's has that, and some gourmet stuff as well.
April 26, 201016 yr I hope they have some non-standard concessions. Every other new ballpark seems to have them. The obvious Cuban/Hispanic stuff will be good but also some popular franchises, either inside or surrounding the ballpark would be great. Chipotle or Five Guys anyone? Mmmm I'd much rather drop 8 bucks on a burrito as opposed to the same lame chicken fingers they have at the AAA, BAC and Sun Life.
April 26, 201016 yr Hopefully they have a lot of different options along with the standard stadium fare
April 27, 201016 yr Hopefully they have a lot of different options along with the standard stadium fare According to what they have been saying, it will be a mixed venue mirroring the community. To me that means different types. American, Cuban, Jamaican, etc...
May 17, 201016 yr Whatever ends up being there, I just hope the price of a brew goes down. I can't justify spending the price of a 6 pack for a single beer.
May 17, 201016 yr Whatever ends up being there, I just hope the price of a brew goes down. I can't justify spending the price of a 6 pack for a single beer. MLB average is about $6 for a 16oz beer. So...yeah. Weak. I guess I'll just stick to pre-gaming.
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