Posted June 2, 201014 yr Leo has had over a dozen really Great apperiances, can't argue he is a legitimate closer but the question I'm posting is this... Is he an All-Star caliber closer (don't misinterprit this as me believing he will be voted in ... That is unreasonable being we get limited to no National coverage) but would he rank right now among the top 5 closers in the NL??? I think he is on the bubble of being at THAT next level... Any thoughts???
June 2, 201014 yr Pitchers don't get voted in, so it's irrelevant. He has a chance to be in the game, based on his numbers right now, sure. I'm positive, however, that since people tend to overvalue saves, a guy like Matt Capps will probably be in the game, even though Leo has had a superior year thus far...simply because Capps leads the league in saves...because he has more chances.
June 2, 201014 yr Looking at the current closers in the NL: Nunez, Lidge, Capps, Wagner, K-Rod Franklin, Cordero, Marmol, Dotel, Lindstrom, Axford Broxton, Bell, Qualls, Wilson, Corpas I would say top 5 are, in no particular order - Broxton, Bell, Nunez, Wilson and Marmol Having said that, I think Nunez is currently on Tier 2, with the top Tier being Broxton, Bell and Marmol Similar to Nunez could be Wilson, K-Rod, Cordero and maybe even Franklin
June 3, 201014 yr I would never put Nunez in the same category as K-Rod, not until he has more than one good season. K-Rod had one of the best years ever for a closer just a couple of years ago. He's also on a crappy Mets team.
June 3, 201014 yr Broxton is my easy favorite... just take a look at his stat line. Unparalleled strikeout ratio.
June 3, 201014 yr Nunez really hasn't been used that much this year. You have to be really, really good to make the team as a reliever, and Leo isn't at that level.
June 3, 201014 yr Why would the National League need a closer? Because three closers are chosen every year...
June 3, 201014 yr Author I would never put Nunez in the same category as K-Rod, not until he has more than one good season. K-Rod had one of the best years ever for a closer just a couple of years ago. He's also on a crappy Mets team. A COUPLE of year ago was ... well, a couple of years ago.. This year, K-Rod has clearly lost something more than just his velocity.. As for his track record with the angels, that was then , this is now... He is just not what he use to be... Capps and Nunez are performing better than Krod this year
June 3, 201014 yr I would never put Nunez in the same category as K-Rod, not until he has more than one good season. K-Rod had one of the best years ever for a closer just a couple of years ago. He's also on a crappy Mets team. K-Rod's best year was super overrated. It had a large part with being on a good team. Not to say he wasn't great, because he was, but he wasn't even the best reliever that year. Leo's been as good as K-Rod but they've both been pretty damn good. But there are usually 4-5 relievers per team and I don't see why not to have Leo. Of any reliever with 10 saves, he's 1st in WHIP, 5th in ERA, 3rd in OPSA, and 3rd in SO/BB (BTW, Ryan Fraknlin has 1 walk in 24.1).
June 3, 201014 yr Author Exert from ESPN's power rankings... Actually not an exert, this is the whole statement on the Marlins... As you can see all about Leo "Leo Nunez has been perfect in his past six save opportunities, lowering his ERA to 2.08 on the season."
June 3, 201014 yr Nunez really hasn't been used that much this year. You have to be really, really good to make the team as a reliever, and Leo isn't at that level. ? Also...might as well add that he's been a really, really good reliever thus far, this year.
June 3, 201014 yr Nunez really hasn't been used that much this year. You have to be really, really good to make the team as a reliever, and Leo isn't at that level. ? Also...might as well add that he's been a really, really good reliever thus far, this year. He's 5th in the NL in IP amongst guys with atleast 10 saves.
June 3, 201014 yr Nunez really hasn't been used that much this year. You have to be really, really good to make the team as a reliever, and Leo isn't at that level. ? Also...might as well add that he's been a really, really good reliever thus far, this year. He's 5th in the NL in IP amongst guys with atleast 10 saves. That's 11 guys in that category, so pretty much he's being used like every other closer. Sirspud's statement about him not being used that much this year makes no sense. Not sure which side you're agreeing with here, since you quoted me.
June 3, 201014 yr Nunez really hasn't been used that much this year. You have to be really, really good to make the team as a reliever, and Leo isn't at that level. ? Also...might as well add that he's been a really, really good reliever thus far, this year. He's 5th in the NL in IP amongst guys with atleast 10 saves. That's 11 guys in that category, so pretty much he's being used like every other closer. Sirspud's statement about him not being used that much this year makes no sense. Not sure which side you're agreeing with here, since you quoted me. I just quoted you because you were the last person on the topic I guess. I'm on your side, he's been used fine. Though, BTW, I'm off. He's 5th in games, not innings pitched. He's 8th in IP. But it's not a big deal, all those guys have pitched pretty much the same.
June 3, 201014 yr As far closers, any closers, your only as good as your last game! The Marlins have been fairly fortunate over the years with closers, but as of now I wouldn't rate Nunez as an all-star caliber closer.
June 4, 201014 yr As far closers, any closers, your only as good as your last game! The Marlins have been fairly fortunate over the years with closers, but as of now I wouldn't rate Nunez as an all-star caliber closer. Why not? What about his stats doesn't scream all-star?
June 4, 201014 yr As far closers, any closers, your only as good as your last game! The Marlins have been fairly fortunate over the years with closers, but as of now I wouldn't rate Nunez as an all-star caliber closer. Why not? What about his stats doesn't scream all-star? Last night would be a good example, he hasn't been doing the job long enough or good enough to be an all-star
June 4, 201014 yr Why would the National League need a closer? Why would the National League need a closer? Because three closers are chosen every year... Because His joke went right over Your head.
June 4, 201014 yr Why would the National League need a closer? Why would the National League need a closer? Because three closers are chosen every year... Because His joke went right over Your head. Hahaha i'm glad someone appreciates my comedic abilties. In all seriousness though, I don't see why Nunez's number are not all star calibur.
June 4, 201014 yr As far closers, any closers, your only as good as your last game! The Marlins have been fairly fortunate over the years with closers, but as of now I wouldn't rate Nunez as an all-star caliber closer. Why not? What about his stats doesn't scream all-star? Last night would be a good example, he hasn't been doing the job long enough or good enough to be an all-star 3 hits, 2 of which were hit softly, prove he's not worthy? The All-Star Game isn't a career achievement; it's based on what's being done in a year, prior to the game. "As of now," he's been an all-star caliber closer this year.
June 4, 201014 yr As far closers, any closers, your only as good as your last game! The Marlins have been fairly fortunate over the years with closers, but as of now I wouldn't rate Nunez as an all-star caliber closer. Why not? What about his stats doesn't scream all-star? Last night would be a good example, he hasn't been doing the job long enough or good enough to be an all-star 3 hits, 2 of which were hit softly, prove he's not worthy? The All-Star Game isn't a career achievement; it's based on what's being done in a year, prior to the game. "As of now," he's been an all-star caliber closer this year. Bingo. Plus, how is last night proof of anything negative? He was able to work around a couple lucky hits and shut the door. And he has been doing it for long enough, he's been doing it for 2 months. I say that because, as Erick said, this is the 2010 All-Star game, not the 2007-2010 All-Star game. It's about who's an all-star THIS YEAR, not who was best in other years.
June 5, 201014 yr As far closers, any closers, your only as good as your last game! The Marlins have been fairly fortunate over the years with closers, but as of now I wouldn't rate Nunez as an all-star caliber closer. Why not? What about his stats doesn't scream all-star? Last night would be a good example, he hasn't been doing the job long enough or good enough to be an all-star 3 hits, 2 of which were hit softly, prove he's not worthy? The All-Star Game isn't a career achievement; it's based on what's being done in a year, prior to the game. "As of now," he's been an all-star caliber closer this year. Bingo. Plus, how is last night proof of anything negative? He was able to work around a couple lucky hits and shut the door. And he has been doing it for long enough, he's been doing it for 2 months. I say that because, as Erick said, this is the 2010 All-Star game, not the 2007-2010 All-Star game. It's about who's an all-star THIS YEAR, not who was best in other years. I would vote for him if I could. He has been really good...even when odds (hits or whatever) are against him.
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.