For some reason, I find it kind of unsettling to see so many people celebrating someone's death. Maybe it's normal, but it's the first time I've experienced it.

 

 

 

 

 

What?

 

 

 

It's Osama Bin Laden; when the devil dies, people celebrate.

 

Wasn't really expecting it to be so real, though. When I saw it, I was just like 'Al-Qaeda mad', but there are people partying outside of the White House. It's kind of weird, honestly. Not like I wasn't expecting it, but the sincerity of it all caught me by surprise.

For some reason, I find it kind of unsettling to see so many people celebrating someone's death. Maybe it's normal, but it's the first time I've experienced it.

:rolleyes:What?

... guessing you probably missed those videos of people dancing in the streets when the twin towers collapsed?

 

No, that's exactly why it's unsettling. Look at the videos of the people outside the White House. It reminds me of just that.

I don't know; it all just seems really weird. Was he actually in a mansion? Why would he be in a mansion? Where was he for 10 years? I don't buy that it's seriously that difficult (decade difficult) for the U.S government to capture a 6 foot 4 guy with a beard longer than Brian Wilson's.

 

There has to be more that they're not telling. Maybe I just miss Jack Bauer and 24, but perhaps we had plenty of people in the U.S. working for Al-Qaeda. There has to be something more than this.

 

Also, the fact that it's the exact date of George Bush's "mission accomplished" speech + the fact that this will really help Obama...again, I don't know.

 

Not to mention the fact that Bin Laden had imposters. At least they took a week to confirm it, apparently; that's the only believable thing about this story to me.

 

 

Well, I mean, do you expect things to be blatantly obvious? I'm sure he hasn't been in a mansion for 10 years. He probably moved around those rural areas of Pakistan (completely free of ground troops and only has intel to worry about).

 

Why would he be in a mansion? They're very pro Osama out there in the tribal regions of Pakistan. Pakistan has no rule over those territories. The people there are welcoming of him.

 

I mean, there's also no need tobe naive. They probably have had several leads, chances to capture him, failures to capture him, etc. It's probably extremely complex.

No, that's exactly why it's unsettling. Look at the videos of the people outside the White House. It reminds me of just that.

 

Ever heard of turnabout's fair play? Also, every country in the world except maybe three probably has no problem with us celebrating the fact he's dead.

No, that's exactly why it's unsettling. Look at the videos of the people outside the White House. It reminds me of just that.

 

Ever heard of turnabout's fair play? Also, every country in the world except maybe three probably has no problem with us celebrating the fact he's dead.

 

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Wasn't really expecting it to be so real, though. When I saw it, I was just like 'Al-Qaeda mad', but there are people partying outside of the White House. It's kind of weird, honestly. Not like I wasn't expecting it, but the sincerity of it all caught me by surprise.

 

 

If there's anything a little off about it... I mean it is only one man after all, my expert opinion is this is not the end of terrorism.

 

 

 

People are chanting the "na-na-na hey-hey-hey goodbye song". Wha?

I don't know; it all just seems really weird. Was he actually in a mansion? Why would he be in a mansion? Where was he for 10 years? I don't buy that it's seriously that difficult (decade difficult) for the U.S government to capture a 6 foot 4 guy with a beard longer than Brian Wilson's.

 

There has to be more that they're not telling. Maybe I just miss Jack Bauer and 24, but perhaps we had plenty of people in the U.S. working for Al-Qaeda. There has to be something more than this.

 

Also, the fact that it's the exact date of George Bush's "mission accomplished" speech + the fact that this will really help Obama...again, I don't know.

 

Not to mention the fact that Bin Laden had imposters. At least they took a week to confirm it, apparently; that's the only believable thing about this story to me.

 

 

Well, I mean, do you expect things to be blatantly obvious? I'm sure he hasn't been in a mansion for 10 years. He probably moved around those rural areas of Pakistan (completely free of ground troops and only has intel to worry about).

 

Why would he be in a mansion? They're very pro Osama out there in the tribal regions of Pakistan. Pakistan has no rule over those territories. The people there are welcoming of him.

 

I mean, there's also no need tobe naive. They probably have had several leads, chances to capture him, failures to capture him, etc. It's probably extremely complex.

 

 

I'm not questioning whether or not the people of Pakistan would let him in; I'm just wondering why he'd just pop in at a mansion all of the sudden after 10 years. Doesn't really seem like a wonderful hiding place. The day they caught him, I always imagined he'd be in a cave or something. Perhaps that has something to do with why I'm thinking this way, lol.

Wasn't really expecting it to be so real, though. When I saw it, I was just like 'Al-Qaeda mad', but there are people partying outside of the White House. It's kind of weird, honestly. Not like I wasn't expecting it, but the sincerity of it all caught me by surprise.

 

 

If there's anything a little off about it... I mean it is only one man after all, my expert opinion is this is not the end of terrorism.

 

Yeah, it's pretty much only a symbolic victory. It's not like killing someone like Hitler, which renders the war pretty much over.

 

I absolutely consider this to be a good thing, but the truth is that this will change very little as far as the "war on terror" is concerned.

Speaking of Hitler, he was executed on May 1, 1945.

For some reason, I find it kind of unsettling to see so many people celebrating someone's death. Maybe it's normal, but it's the first time I've experienced it.

:rolleyes:What?

... guessing you probably missed those videos of people dancing in the streets when the twin towers collapsed?

 

No, that's exactly why it's unsettling. Look at the videos of the people outside the White House. It reminds me of just that.

 

Oh sure, I understand. Don't like to see us behaving that way. Want to hold us to a higher standard, I totally get it.

 

I'm very happy about this. I am not dancing in the streets about it, but pretty damn satisfying.

Wasn't really expecting it to be so real, though. When I saw it, I was just like 'Al-Qaeda mad', but there are people partying outside of the White House. It's kind of weird, honestly. Not like I wasn't expecting it, but the sincerity of it all caught me by surprise.

 

 

If there's anything a little off about it... I mean it is only one man after all, my expert opinion is this is not the end of terrorism.

 

Yeah, it's pretty much only a symbolic victory. It's not like killing someone like Hitler, which renders the war pretty much over.

 

I absolutely consider this to be a good thing, but the truth is that this will change very little as far as the "war on terror" is concerned.

 

I think it has an impact, but certainly nothing near 'ending' the war on terror. That's not something you can end. That's something that has to fade away. This can help it fade away in the long run, but it's not going away anytime soon.

My only regret is that this didn't happen a few days ago so that we didn't have to hear about that bulls*** royal wedding that nobody cares about.

 

 

every female in the united states would like a word with you.

Wasn't really expecting it to be so real, though. When I saw it, I was just like 'Al-Qaeda mad', but there are people partying outside of the White House. It's kind of weird, honestly. Not like I wasn't expecting it, but the sincerity of it all caught me by surprise.

 

 

If there's anything a little off about it... I mean it is only one man after all, my expert opinion is this is not the end of terrorism.

 

Yeah, it's pretty much only a symbolic victory. It's not like killing someone like Hitler, which renders the war pretty much over.

 

I absolutely consider this to be a good thing, but the truth is that this will change very little as far as the "war on terror" is concerned.

Speaking of Hitler, he was executed on May 1, 1945.

You mean committed suicide, and April 30th. And Bin Laden was killed over a week ago.

Well yeah, I guess "announced dead" would have been better choice of words. And voluntarily executed would be a better choice of words than "committed suicide". But whatever. Same thing.

I'm not questioning whether or not the people of Pakistan would let him in; I'm just wondering why he'd just pop in at a mansion all of the sudden after 10 years. Doesn't really seem like a wonderful hiding place. The day they caught him, I always imagined he'd be in a cave or something. Perhaps that has something to do with why I'm thinking this way, lol.

 

 

I'm sure he's been to several 'mansions'. It's a safe haven. He was probably repetitively on the move.

 

Plus, you always thought he'd be in a cave because that's where they've always supposedly been looking.

 

Maybe that's half the problem?

Apparently it wasn't a week ago, it was Friday.

I'm not questioning whether or not the people of Pakistan would let him in; I'm just wondering why he'd just pop in at a mansion all of the sudden after 10 years. Doesn't really seem like a wonderful hiding place. The day they caught him, I always imagined he'd be in a cave or something. Perhaps that has something to do with why I'm thinking this way, lol.

 

 

I'm sure he's been to several 'mansions'. It's a safe haven. He was probably repetitively on the move.

 

Plus, you always thought he'd be in a cave because that's where they've always supposedly been looking.

 

Maybe that's half the problem?

 

 

I don't know; I'd like to see more details, personally.

For some reason, I find it kind of unsettling to see so many people celebrating someone's death. Maybe it's normal, but it's the first time I've experienced it.

... guessing you probably missed those videos of people dancing in the streets when the twin towers collapsed?

 

No, that's exactly why it's unsettling. Look at the videos of the people outside the White House. It reminds me of just that.

 

Oh sure, I understand. Don't like to see us behaving that way. Want to hold us to a higher standard, I totally get it.

 

I'm very happy about this. I am not dancing in the streets about it, but pretty damn satisfying.

 

Osama Bin Laden's people killed thousands of civilians.

 

Here, American forces killed, allegedly, 1 civilian, and also killed the man who was the most responsible for the thousands of innocent deaths.

For some reason, I find it kind of unsettling to see so many people celebrating someone's death. Maybe it's normal, but it's the first time I've experienced it.

... guessing you probably missed those videos of people dancing in the streets when the twin towers collapsed?

 

No, that's exactly why it's unsettling. Look at the videos of the people outside the White House. It reminds me of just that.

 

Oh sure, I understand. Don't like to see us behaving that way. Want to hold us to a higher standard, I totally get it.

 

I'm very happy about this. I am not dancing in the streets about it, but pretty damn satisfying.

 

Osama Bin Laden's people killed thousands of civilians.

 

Here, American forces killed, allegedly, 1 civilian, and also killed the man who was the most responsible for the thousands of innocent deaths.

I don't know if I'd call someone hanging out in a complex with Osama a civilian.

I don't know if I'd call someone hanging out in a complex with Osama a civilian.

 

 

I mean, it was a woman used by Al Qaeda as a shield, so I wasn't sure.

I don't know if I'd call someone hanging out in a complex with Osama a civilian.

 

 

Not only that, but it was a hostage-esque situation. They used her as a human shield amidst a firefight. Even if she were a civilian, it's only a reason to hate Osama some more, not claim that the US troops 'killed a civilian'.

A couple of things i would like to say.

 

I do not consider this "justice" as Obama said. There was no justice at all.

There are international courts, for example. where he could have been taken. It may take longer, months, years. But, that's justice.

 

Also, in Guantamo there is no justice. I read that Obama tried to send the prisoners to Argentina, Brazil and Chile. None of those countries accepted their offer because there are no proofs against those prisoners. They do not have the rights to get a lawyer and so on.

 

And finally, I would like to compare some things that have happened in South America to those people celebrating on the White House and Central Park.

During the 70's and early 80's many South American countries have suffered right-wing military dictatorships that have overthrown legitimate presidents -some of them left-wing like Allende in Chile-.

Those dictatorship killed, tortured and started what we may say, civil wars in these countries. Time has passed and some of those dictators are being jailed right now. We waited long enough until the judicial branch found them guilty of killing many people. At that time is when we go and celebrate on the streets. After the court decided it. That's why I don't like that much of those celebrations I'm seeing on TV right now. I don't consider it fair.

 

Even though I know the US did not sign the Pact of San José which abolish capital punishment in peace time. It's still an core declaration of that type of ideology that surrounds American foreign policy.

 

I know I mixed many things, but as a whole they show what I'm trying to express.

 

 

edit: I forgot to add that three grandsons have been killed together with Osama. Well, "collateral damage". pffff.

A couple of things i would like to say.

 

I do not consider this "justice" as Obama said. There was no justice at all.

There are international courts, for example. where he could have been taken. It may take longer, months, years. But, that's justice.

 

 

No justice? How old are you? Do you remember 9/11? There is definitely justice served here.

 

And you're ignorant/you haven't read up enough if that's your view on the matter. It was a firefight. You can't take a man to international courts if you can't put him in custody. That's common sense.

 

edit: I forgot to add that three grandsons have been killed together with Osama. Well, "collateral damage". pffff.

 

 

I really hope you aren't judging the word 'grandson' out of context. They're not 5 year old children. He's had roughly 20 children over his life. Chances are one of them has had children, a long, long time ago. Chances are these 'grandchildren' were armed and shooting, just like the rest of the people in the complex.

Justice is not putting a bullet through your enemy's skull.

Justice is not putting a bullet through your enemy's skull.

 

 

*sigh*

 

When your enemy is trying to put a bullet through your skull and the only way you can stop your enemy is by putting one through his, it's either he shoots you or you shoot him.

 

 

You don't honestly think, for one second, that Osama would be taken alive? He had every intention of dying as an attempt to become a martyr. He likely would've (and potentially actually could have) shot himself before anybody would have gotten to him.

 

You know what... this is stupid. I'm not even going to bother debating this.

I understand what you are saying, but that's not justice. Use another term, but it's far far away from justice.

I understand what you are saying, but that's not justice. Use another term, but it's far far away from justice.

 

 

It's closure, for 9/11 victims, survivors, and everyone else. And it's justice, just not to it's fullest extent, of course. I still feel that it's easily considered justice served on Osama Bin Laden.

 

Can't you ever take a day off? It's becoming too much.

 

 

What?

 

I love you too, penguino.