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2011-12 NFL Thread

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The punt returner is Kenny Williams son.

 

Poor Lawrence Tynes. He kicked the game-winning 31-yard FG; in his dream, it was actually 42 yards. Sucker.

Kyle Williams and Billy Cundiff.

 

Two of the biggest GOATS of all time.

Which one's on a greater suicide watch right now?

 

Kyle Williams, easily. TWO mess-ups in that game that lead to Giants scores.

Including the game-winner.

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Yeah but the Ravens didn't trust Cundiff with 2 minutes left in the game to kick a game tying field goal from 51... and only gave him the ball when they were incredibly close and had to.

 

And he f***ed it up. He went and he's the sole reason why his team didn't get a shot at OT.

 

 

Williams on the other hand was not the only reason the Giants won. San Fran failed at going down the field several times in OT and late in the game.

Yeah but the Ravens didn't trust Cundiff with 2 minutes left in the game to kick a game tying field goal from 51... and only gave him the ball when they were incredibly close and had to.

 

And he f***ed it up. He went and he's the sole reason why his team didn't get a shot at OT.

 

 

Williams on the other hand was not the only reason the Giants won. San Fran failed at going down the field several times in OT and late in the game.

 

At the same time, the Ravens' receiver dropped an easy pass in the end zone. Even if the Pats defender was right on him, that should have been caught.

 

So ... split blame for the Ravens losing.

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My point is that Cundiff was put up on a scoring play and failed. Even after Williams effed up the punt, the game wasn't over. Cundiff had the game on his foot with an easy kick and failed.

 

Williams did not necessarily have the game in his hands.

I think Cundiff will be seen as the bigger GOAT because it ended the game, but in reality Kyle Williams' mistakes were more brutal towards his team's chances to win overall.

Cundiff's FG was for the tie, not the win.

 

Williams gave the Giants 10 points, basically gift-wrapping the last 3.

 

I think Evans is more at fault than Cundiff from the Ravens perspective.

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Still... Cundiff messed up a routine play when it mattered most to end the game.

 

Both times Williams messed up relatively routine plays (albeit harder), but there were chances to rebound from the Giants both times, and several other opportunities from the Giants to stop it from even coming to that.

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I would guess there are less missed field goals from that range than there are fumbles and muffed punts combined.

Wanna hear something crazy? The Dolphins (+16) had a better point differential than the Giants (-6) in the regular season.

 

Giants become the first team ever to get to the Super Bowl, despite being outscored in the regular season.

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