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Morrison files grievance

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I don't blame him for filing a grievance, the team sent him down randomly. It's not like he was at .240 all year, I would probably file for grievance too, considering the reason the club stated was probably not the reason they sent him down.

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I'm pretty sure if you guys all thought there was a way you could get an extra 20k, you'd probably do it.

 

I think most people are smart enough to understand that it's not worth it to burn bridges over this when it probably won't go through.

 

It's certain that the bridge will be burned? The Marlins don't seem to pissed off at Anibal.

 

I think we need to look at this dispassionately; I'm no fan of Logan's, but I think he just wants to recoup, within the rules, what he considers lost income. And the Marlins will likely look at it that way also.

 

I think people are making too big a deal about this both ways.

The Anibal situation really isn't comparable. I think Morrison is in much hotter water because he is almost grandstanding this and causing a big fit.

 

For one, it sounds like the union was the one pushing Anibal's grievance the hardest. The union doesn't really seem to care nearly as much in Logan's case and isn't really commenting on it. Anibal's incident was presumably a misunderstanding about an injury (or perhaps the Marlins actually being guilty of wrongdoing), whereas Logan is just being a diva. How are the two situations similar other than them being both grievances? I don't see why it's wrong to think Logan is being a douche when he clearly is being one. He wasn't playing all that well and he was saying things that players in his position would never say. It's fair to be upset with him.

I don't blame him for filing a grievance, the team sent him down randomly. It's not like he was at .240 all year, I would probably file for grievance too, considering the reason the club stated was probably not the reason they sent him down.

 

 

He hadn't reached base reliably for 7 week and then started acting like he was the franchise. if your OBP has been under .300 for 3 months, you should show up for the events. ESPECIALLY if you are a kid without guaranteed money. The team should have just said, "you need to grow up if you want to play with men" when they called him into the office. But then, when you stomp out right away instead of listening to your manager and GM you don't get to hear that kind of stuff.

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I don't blame him for filing a grievance, the team sent him down randomly. It's not like he was at .240 all year, I would probably file for grievance too, considering the reason the club stated was probably not the reason they sent him down.

 

You're right, he wasn't at .240 all year. He was hitting over .300 in the first two months, but then hovered in the low .200s from June-August. If they sent him down at the end of May, it might have been a bit more suspicious.

 

It's silly for players in club controlled years to think that they are somehow entitled to a full season's worth of MLB pay when they weren't playing like major leaguers for a considerable amount of time. That's why I have difficulty sympathizing with Morrison here.

I'm pretty sure if you guys all thought there was a way you could get an extra 20k, you'd probably do it.

 

I think most people are smart enough to understand that it's not worth it to burn bridges over this when it probably won't go through.

 

It's certain that the bridge will be burned? The Marlins don't seem to pissed off at Anibal.

 

I think we need to look at this dispassionately; I'm no fan of Logan's, but I think he just wants to recoup, within the rules, what he considers lost income. And the Marlins will likely look at it that way also.

 

I think people are making too big a deal about this both ways.

The Anibal situation really isn't comparable. I think Morrison is in much hotter water because he is almost grandstanding this and causing a big fit.

 

For one, it sounds like the union was the one pushing Anibal's grievance the hardest. The union doesn't really seem to care nearly as much in Logan's case and isn't really commenting on it. Anibal's incident was presumably a misunderstanding about an injury (or perhaps the Marlins actually being guilty of wrongdoing), whereas Logan is just being a diva. How are the two situations similar other than them being both grievances? I don't see why it's wrong to think Logan is being a douche when he clearly is being one. He wasn't playing all that well and he was saying things that players in his position would never say. It's fair to be upset with him.

 

I would hope the organization wouldn't react emotionally to the emotional reaction of a 23 year old. I would hope they are more professional and savvy than that.

 

And I don't think he's being a douche in this instance. He's trying to recoup what he believes is lost income based on the established rules of the game. if the rules state that options aren't allowed to be used for disciplinary purposes, then why not try to get that income back?

 

I remember a few people being upset about Anibal's greivance here and on another board. Fans are almost always going to think players are being petty in these situations, however there are rules in place, and if a player believes those rules were violated and they lost income as a result, they have every right to try and recoup that income.

 

I'm fine with calling him out when he deserves it, but this seems like a pretty standard thing given the situation. Especially given that the Marlins' brass made more than a few references to it not just being about baseball.

Some of you guys need to remember that Logan is still only 24 years old and to lose his father 9 months ago has obviously taken a massive toll on him. If you have read the Amy Nelson ESPN article, you will realise just how influential his dad was in everything he did. If Logan needed advice of any sort, he had someone right beside him to help him out. He doesnt have his father anymore, and so maybe his actions have become more rash without that voice in his ear on how to conduct himself in a professional manner.

 

Simply put, I hope he is with the Marlins for a long time.

Simply put, I hope he is with the Marlins for a long time.

 

 

So do I. But I come from a Southern mindset where a man is supposed to act like a man, not a whiny little girl with vagina pains. If you are not contributing adequately on the field, you better be doing everything else right. That means show up for team events, show up on time for games and practices (he was reportedly late more than once), and be nice to the fans.

 

If I were having a bad month at work with getting stuff done, I wouldn't last long if I was rude to the customers and critical of my bosses - and I have a lot less income to lose than Logan.

I love LoMo, pretty much the only interesting thing to come out of this God-forsaken season. The Marlins are prideful (i.e. stupid) enough to trade him for nothing, too.

I think the ESPN article is a worthy read. Bet ya didn't know that Lotus sent his personal to jet to fly Lomo's family from his father's civilian funeral to his military one.

So..

I've read all the articles. A job is a job is a job. You run your mouth, cause a ruckus, fight with your coworkers, tell your boss he's the problem? Then cancel on him? Justify it with a union card, then turn around and say it was principle? Then underperform? - shits gonna come down on you!! it's common sense! Why is it a surprise?

And the ESPN article? god, with that much copy devoted to something - you'd think he was playing like a perennial superstar. Such a deep, emotional look into a guy who in my opinion hasn't put his production where his prose is.

Frankly if my Dad died...i'd welcome the opportunity to get my sh*t together and still get paid.

So..

I've read all the articles. A job is a job is a job. You run your mouth, cause a ruckus, fight with your coworkers, tell your boss he's the problem? Then cancel on him? Justify it with a union card, then turn around and say it was principle? Then underperform? - shits gonna come down on you!! it's common sense! Why is it a surprise?

 

This is a pretty funny synopsis. The bolded is pretty ironic juxtaposed like that; however, you might be mixing up the 2 events - he said that he canceled the charity event on principle, I believe, while the union thing was for a different, season ticket holder thing.

I love LoMo, pretty much the only interesting thing to come out of this God-forsaken season. The Marlins are prideful (i.e. stupid) enough to trade him for nothing, too.

 

It's funny that you would rip the Marlins for being prideful and stupid, because people who disagree with LoMo here are saying he is doing just that. Both sides are allegedly guilty of displaying the same negative qualities. I know you are, but what am I, anyone?

I love LoMo, pretty much the only interesting thing to come out of this God-forsaken season. The Marlins are prideful (i.e. stupid) enough to trade him for nothing, too.

Yeah mike stanton was super boring. So was watching boni develop.

 

I'd be Mike Stanton's girlfriend 4 ever and Boni's evolution from the league's worst starter to average was astonishing but it was to no end, their performances were wedged into a bunch of 2-1 losses. I like LoMo cause of all the drama and twatter beef and all that.

I love LoMo, pretty much the only interesting thing to come out of this God-forsaken season. The Marlins are prideful (i.e. stupid) enough to trade him for nothing, too.

 

It's funny that you would rip the Marlins for being prideful and stupid, because people who disagree with LoMo here are saying he is doing just that. Both sides are allegedly guilty of displaying the same negative qualities. I know you are, but what am I, anyone?

 

LoMo is engaging with the fans and is gregarious, when the Marlins brass acts up they fire company men like Girardi and Fredi or want to trade Hanley cause he doesn't want to shave his ghetto braids. The latter is less amusing to me.

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I'm pretty sure if you guys all thought there was a way you could get an extra 20k, you'd probably do it.

 

I think most people are smart enough to understand that it's not worth it to burn bridges over this when it probably won't go through.

 

It's certain that the bridge will be burned? The Marlins don't seem to pissed off at Anibal.

 

I think we need to look at this dispassionately; I'm no fan of Logan's, but I think he just wants to recoup, within the rules, what he considers lost income. And the Marlins will likely look at it that way also.

 

I think people are making too big a deal about this both ways.

The Anibal situation really isn't comparable. I think Morrison is in much hotter water because he is almost grandstanding this and causing a big fit.

 

For one, it sounds like the union was the one pushing Anibal's grievance the hardest. The union doesn't really seem to care nearly as much in Logan's case and isn't really commenting on it. Anibal's incident was presumably a misunderstanding about an injury (or perhaps the Marlins actually being guilty of wrongdoing), whereas Logan is just being a diva. How are the two situations similar other than them being both grievances? I don't see why it's wrong to think Logan is being a douche when he clearly is being one. He wasn't playing all that well and he was saying things that players in his position would never say. It's fair to be upset with him.

 

I would hope the organization wouldn't react emotionally to the emotional reaction of a 23 year old. I would hope they are more professional and savvy than that.

 

And I don't think he's being a douche in this instance. He's trying to recoup what he believes is lost income based on the established rules of the game. if the rules state that options aren't allowed to be used for disciplinary purposes, then why not try to get that income back?

 

I remember a few people being upset about Anibal's greivance here and on another board. Fans are almost always going to think players are being petty in these situations, however there are rules in place, and if a player believes those rules were violated and they lost income as a result, they have every right to try and recoup that income.

 

I'm fine with calling him out when he deserves it, but this seems like a pretty standard thing given the situation. Especially given that the Marlins' brass made more than a few references to it not just being about baseball.

The Marlins don't need to act "emotionally" or harshly in this matter in order to sustain a level of tension with Morrison. I do believe that the demotion was mostly disciplinary (but justified by Morrison's lack of performance), but the hope in all of this was that Logan would learn a lesson and stop running his mouth. Instead, he did the opposite and started this crusade for "what's right" in what will prove to be a long ordeal (these matters typically take well over a year to settle). Morrison should have just left it drop.

 

Morrison's comments about it not being motivated by the money must also be considered, unless you have reasonable proof that they are insincere. In my opinion, it makes things worse if this is all some personal crusade, because it proves that he learned nothing in this ordeal. Instead it just reinforces him as some sort of loudmouth, narcissistic douche.

 

The problem with the logic of your post is that it assumes that money is the main motivation here without proof. We can't assume that and the evidence we are given suggests the opposite is the case.

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Some of you guys need to remember that Logan is still only 24 years old and to lose his father 9 months ago has obviously taken a massive toll on him. If you have read the Amy Nelson ESPN article, you will realise just how influential his dad was in everything he did. If Logan needed advice of any sort, he had someone right beside him to help him out. He doesnt have his father anymore, and so maybe his actions have become more rash without that voice in his ear on how to conduct himself in a professional manner.

 

Simply put, I hope he is with the Marlins for a long time.

 

I can understand that perhaps the difficulty in coping with his dad's death might prevent Logan's mind from being in the right place. However, a 24 year old man should certainly be capable of seeing the consequences of his actions in this case, even without a father figure. He's basically a grown man.

The entirely reasonable demotion cost him about 17K. He'll be paid about 397K this year. Meanwhile, he's caused far more controversy than Hanley and the entire rest of the team, combined.

 

It ain't the money, it's his oversize, childish ego.

 

And that's not a function of anyones death.

 

His immense self-regard seems to prevent him from realizing that constantly stirring up controversy as a rookie isn't going to endear him to anyone. Not fans. Not other players. And certainly not to any owner debating whether to retain or trade him, or whether or not to offer him a long-term deal.

 

I've noticed a sort of smugness about him when he's interviewed. Jack has commented about players (in general, perhaps with LoMo in mind) who think that just because they're on the MLB roster, they have it made. Guys who can't restrain themselves and their pampered egos wind up costing themselves a lot of money over a career. Nobody wants a child-man clubhouse-cancer around.

 

Shut up, play hard and let us know what you think in about 5 years.

No doubt in my mind he'll be traded this winter, maybe at the winter meetings.

 

Want to lay me 5:1? I'll put up $500. I think that's fair for something you have "no doubt" about.

He also canceled a fundraising event for charity on his own because he wasnt happy with presales and insulted the organization plannijg it. Hes a dbag. I really dont give a sh*t if he stays a marlin.

 

You are saying he's a douchebag because the event was cancelled due to the fact that the Marlins did not actively advertise and market as much as they could have, an opportunity for casual fans to support a fantasic cause and go bowling with a major league player?

To be honest I kind of have to agree with this. I watch all the games, and then listen to the radio replays the next day at MLB.com. And I never heard of the event until I heard that it was cancelled. That is the Marlins fault. As much as I watch & listen to Marlins programming I should have been aware of the event.

I heard it announced a few times. And I believe it was also at marlins.com. I think alot of folks were just balking at the prices.

 

In any case, this wasn't a Marlins event. It was a Community Foundation event. Blame them for the "lack of coverage." Since Nancy left, how many times have you seen their leader doing any type of interview? Heck, I'm not even sure who it is right now and we donate to that org every year. Their lack of promoting anything seems to have dropped off quite a bit.

He was like 20 for his last 96 at the time of his demotion. And on top of that, he was being his usual douchebag self.

Worse, he hit .213 with a .693 OPS from June 1st to his demotion on August 13th. Keep in mind that it was late June when Jack said he needed to start "focusing on baseball".

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