With the right owner, the Marlins can become another Miami Heat type story...free agents will try to beat a path down here, particularly Hispanic free agents. Interest and fan attendance will take off. Firmly convinced of that. The ball park is first rate.

 

But of course as long as Loria/Samson hang like a lead weight over this franchise, none of this is even remotely possible. Crying shame.

 

absolutely believe this too. Loria and his style of ownership would kill attendance in any city, but it was especially hurtful in a city with a fragile fanbase to begin with. This franchise has never had any ownership that actually understood South Fla, and it's unique market, and how to maximize it's potential.

absolutely believe this too. Loria and his style of ownership would kill attendance in any city, but it was especially hurtful in a city with a fragile fanbase to begin with. This franchise has never had any ownership that actually understood South Fla, and it's unique market, and how to maximize it's potential.

 

How would you maximize South Florida's unique market if you were the owner? Totally not being sarcastic, I'm seriously curious because now it has me thinking.

I know! I know!

 

Obviously, the answer is dancing girls. Oh, wait, they did that.

 

Actually, I'm thinking that some people who don't like Loria are permanently full of it. What'll be interesting is what that same group of people have to say about the next owner when he doesn't immediately win a WS. Probably be accused of fleecing or screwing someone or other.

It's not a stretch to think a 28-year-old coming off a career year is heading into his prime.

I'm not referring to (only) Saltalamacchia.

Actually, I'm thinking that some people who don't like Loria are permanently full of it. What'll be interesting is what that same group of people have to say about the next owner when he doesn't immediately win a WS. Probably be accused of fleecing or screwing someone or other.

 

What on earth are you talking about? It's not like people are being impatient. The Marlins went 10 years without a single playoff appearance. That's an incredibly long drought.

 

I also doubt that any new owner would be as hands-on as Loria is. The man is really one of a kind and not in a good way.

Sounds like a completely new baseball strategy. Hit the ball where the defenders aren't.

 

If you checked the stats from last year at home you would have to think to them it is a new strategy. Last place in nearly every offensive category?

 

The real point was that if Salty is a gap hitter he should do fairly well here. Especially now that they are preaching this very method.

How would you maximize South Florida's unique market if you were the owner? Totally not being sarcastic, I'm seriously curious because now it has me thinking.

 

1st I am no marketing expert, but I do know, that you don't become nearly invisible as a franchise with your local community as the Marlins have done at least the last 10 years. The only time they get any publicity, it's negative. Last year, when Loria had his press conference, remember the shots he took at the local media ? Even if you do feel that way, that is not the tactic I would advise to help your team and its poor local image.

 

Also, instead being antagonistic towards the local media, you work with them. Unless you live here, its hard to gauge just how unfriendly they have been to the local media. One small example is, I know of 2 radio stations that have routinely been denied access to players & coaches. One station wanted to give one of the players his own 15 minute show, once a week, and was denied - it would have been an excellent vehicle for team promotion, and goodwill towards not only local fans, but it's also would have helped to perhaps foster better relations between the team and local media. If I was the team, there would be a Marlin player or coach on every morning show in the local market at least once a week, and the week before the season, every day.

 

You have to start somewhere, and small steps are better than no steps in building bridges to the media and fans. Right now, I haven't seen a single commercial advertising the upcoming Marlins season, and where to buy season tickets. Not on TV or on radio. When you do as little as they do, to generate excitement about the team, and the upcoming season, then don't bitch that people aren't flocking in droves to see your team.

What on earth are you talking about? It's not like people are being impatient. The Marlins went 10 years without a single playoff appearance. That's an incredibly long drought.

 

I also doubt that any new owner would be as hands-on as Loria is. The man is really one of a kind and not in a good way.

 

Now that Pittsburgh has made the playoffs, every other NL team has made the playoffs, at least once, since the Marlins made the playoffs. Loria has no one to blame but himself, that he has that statistic hanging around his neck. That one statistic alone makes him the worst owner in the NL right now, based on results.

I know! I know!

 

Obviously, the answer is dancing girls. Oh, wait, they did that.

 

Actually, I'm thinking that some people who don't like Loria are permanently full of it. What'll be interesting is what that same group of people have to say about the next owner when he doesn't immediately win a WS. Probably be accused of fleecing or screwing someone or other.

 

You have to be joking.

I for one am satisfied that a new stadium allowed the team a 1-year hike in team payroll, to break up the 15 years or whatever of MLB's lowest salary. But rest assured we appear to be starting a new streak.

If you checked the stats from last year at home you would have to think to them it is a new strategy. Last place in nearly every offensive category?

 

The real point was that if Salty is a gap hitter he should do fairly well here. Especially now that they are preaching this very method.

 

Just because they sucked at hitting last year doesn't mean that they weren't trying to hit the ball where fielders weren't.

Just because they sucked at hitting last year doesn't mean that they weren't trying to hit the ball where fielders weren't.

 

 

I don't know if you intentionally miss the point, just ignore it so you don't have to admit you were wrong, or just need a 10 year old to explain it to you.

I don't know if you intentionally miss the point, just ignore it so you don't have to admit you were wrong, or just need a 10 year old to explain it to you.

 

You made a idiotic remark about hitting the ball where fielders aren't being strategy, squall called you out on it, and then you came back with an illogical response trying to justify it, which I'm calling you out on now. I'm not missing anything.

1st I am no marketing expert, but I do know, that you don't become nearly invisible as a franchise with your local community as the Marlins have done at least the last 10 years. The only time they get any publicity, it's negative. Last year, when Loria had his press conference, remember the shots he took at the local media ? Even if you do feel that way, that is not the tactic I would advise to help your team and its poor local image.

 

Also, instead being antagonistic towards the local media, you work with them. Unless you live here, its hard to gauge just how unfriendly they have been to the local media. One small example is, I know of 2 radio stations that have routinely been denied access to players & coaches. One station wanted to give one of the players his own 15 minute show, once a week, and was denied - it would have been an excellent vehicle for team promotion, and goodwill towards not only local fans, but it's also would have helped to perhaps foster better relations between the team and local media. If I was the team, there would be a Marlin player or coach on every morning show in the local market at least once a week, and the week before the season, every day.

 

You have to start somewhere, and small steps are better than no steps in building bridges to the media and fans. Right now, I haven't seen a single commercial advertising the upcoming Marlins season, and where to buy season tickets. Not on TV or on radio. When you do as little as they do, to generate excitement about the team, and the upcoming season, then don't bitch that people aren't flocking in droves to see your team.

Yeah if anything they've done the opposite of what they did in 2012 when it comes to marketing. Leading up to the stadium opening everyone was out talking about the team. Now people like David Samson aren't allowed to do local radio interviews anymore. Loria hasn't said a word in a year now, since that bizarre PR offensive they launched.

 

I hate to say it, but the Marlins could easily become the new Panthers in this town very soon. They've shown no interest anymore in trying to bring in new fans or even reach out to old ones.