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Cardinals @ Marlins 8/11, 7:10 P.M.

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Of course they are. They dont match your preconceived notions.

 

You are the one saying he is well below average defensively even though he he is not. You are the one coming in with the preconceived notion that he is well below average defensively. Saying that is almost a ridiculous as Vince saying that Stanton is overrated. Well, not quite but you get my drift.

 

Keep in mind that I am not arguing that fact that he should win a gold glove or that he is the best defensively. I am arguing against the "well below average" comment.

For what it's worth, the metrics don't think he's "well below average" either.

For what it's worth, the metrics don't think he's "well below average" either.

 

We all have already figured out Spike's views always sided with "extremist" rather than realistic. So do as I've always done and take his comments usually with a grain of salt.

You are the one saying he is well below average defensively even though he he is not. You are the one coming in with the preconceived notion that he is well below average defensively. Saying that is almost a ridiculous as Vince saying that Stanton is overrated. Well, not quite but you get my drift.

 

Keep in mind that I am not arguing that fact that he should win a gold glove or that he is the best defensively. I am arguing against the "well below average" comment.

 

If it was one defensive metric, I would agree with you. When every single metric has him as below average defensively, that points to a sad reality.

 

The fact that he is penciled in as the Marlins starting shortstop indefinitely for the foreseeable future is sickening.

I feel adeiny is an A plus defensive player. He makes errors sure but so so many runs saved.

Actually curious to know about hat the "average" is. Not sure if it's still the case (and not going to look it up right now,cause I'm on my phone) but last I heard Hech was sitting just a bit over replacement level in War and dwar. Anyone got some of those #?

This will be fun

WOW

 

That play was a huge clusterfuck for the Cardinals.

He was at .2 WAR. He is still awful

 

Who cares about WAR? Watch the damn game and enjoy yourself. WE ARE WINNING!

I'm not sure the tag was made there.

He's not out of the base line and nobody tagged him. That should be safe at home.

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