November 9, 201510 yr Though the a's did bid on byung-ho park, they did not have the winning bid. Marlins and dbacks also did not have top bid. — Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) 2015년 11월 9일
November 9, 201510 yr Sliver.. you really thought I was asking such a dumb question at first? Well I had completely forgotten about Park so I had no clue what u were trying to say. Go back and attempt to understand that post assuming you had no clue who Park is. Plus the capitalization of the word Park reminded me of Marlins Park, also days after Samson spoke about trying to get naming rights for it. You're new, you'll soon realize we have a few foreign users on here who's posts have to be decoded to be understood. I thought u were one of them. It was when Vince actually wrote Byung Ho that I got the hint.
November 9, 201510 yr Source: Minnesota Twins won rights to Byung-Ho Park with $12.85 million posting bid. — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) 2015년 11월 9일 Twins win bidding for park — Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) 2015년 11월 9일
November 9, 201510 yr How are the bids calculated? How do teams with better international scouting have a better shot than teams without in this situation? Isn't it just who bids the highest? Because in that case I'd think any team can win regardless of how they scout them. Am I wrong? I'm confused how the Twins/Pirates are so often in the lead with this stuff.
November 9, 201510 yr How are the bids calculated? How do teams with better international scouting have a better shot than teams without in this situation? Isn't it just who bids the highest? Because in that case I'd think any team can win regardless of how they scout them. Am I wrong? I'm confused how the Twins/Pirates are so often in the lead with this stuff. Its blind bids, you toss any number out there and you hope its the highest one. Evidently these teams bid high when they blind bid.
November 9, 201510 yr How are the bids calculated? How do teams with better international scouting have a better shot than teams without in this situation? Isn't it just who bids the highest? Because in that case I'd think any team can win regardless of how they scout them. Am I wrong? I'm confused how the Twins/Pirates are so often in the lead with this stuff. Probably because they have actually seen the player and done extensive scouting and feel he is worth the price, would be my guess at least.
November 9, 201510 yr Probably because they have actually seen the player and done extensive scouting and feel he is worth the price, would be my guess at least. But there's no direct correlation to scouting and the bid is my point. So while a team like the Pirates or Twins could place a high big after extensive scouting, there's also the chance a team that never scouted him even once throws in the higher bid by chance and can get them. So essentially there's no exact reason why the Pirates and Twins happened to win the last two Korean player bids.
November 9, 201510 yr So essentially there's no exact reason why the Pirates and Twins happened to win the last two Korean player bids. Because they bid the most
November 9, 201510 yr Because they bid the most Are you being sarcastic? I know they bid the most but there's no reason why they bid the most. The Rockies, who didn't bid and didn't scout anything, could have just said "Ah hell, throw in $14 million for that Korean guy and see what happens" and they would have won the bid. That's my point.
November 9, 201510 yr Are you being sarcastic? I know they bid the most but there's no reason why they bid the most. The Rockies, who didn't bid and didn't scout anything, could have just said "Ah hell, throw in $14 million for that Korean guy and see what happens" and they would have won the bid. That's my point. The Pirates did scout Park and I have no idea if the Twins did too. DelPiano scouted Park for the Pirates. The Twins decided he was worth a higher bid and they threw it out there. They assumed other teams would bid a certain amount and they bid higher. You pay what you bid so if the second highest is 10 mil and you bid 13, you pay 13. No way to know what everyone else bid so some teams elect to overbid and some don't.
November 9, 201510 yr Are you being sarcastic? I know they bid the most but there's no reason why they bid the most. The Rockies, who didn't bid and didn't scout anything, could have just said "Ah hell, throw in $14 million for that Korean guy and see what happens" and they would have won the bid. That's my point. because they saw the player, thought he would be a great fit in MLB and their lineup and took the risk that he would be worth whatever figure it was they bid. They just happened to guess right basically and bid the most. teams like the Marlins who had never seen him for example, may have just bid say 9 mil on the off chance that it would get them the chance to win the player. The point is you are right its not guaranteed that the teams doing the scouting will bid the most, anyone can bid, but you can predict that the teams that do the scouting will bid the most, based on them actually seeing the player and convincing upper management that x bid will be worth it. Try explaining to your owner that you just cost them 13 mil + whatever the contract is for a player nobody in your organization has ever seen except on youtube videos.
November 9, 201510 yr Because they bid the most Because they see international talent as a wise investment. It doesn't mean that the Marlins thought any less of Park, it just means that the Marlins didn't want to invest in that. The Marlins don't like to invest money in many things outside of home run installations, managers, and slap hitters with speed.
November 9, 201510 yr Because they see international talent as a wise investment. It doesn't mean that the Marlins thought any less of Park, it just means that the Marlins didn't want to invest in that. The Marlins don't like to invest money in many things outside of home run installations, managers, and slap hitters with speed. To be fair, the Marlins may not have thought it'd go that high. They may have bid 12 million for all we know and incorrectly assumed it'd be enough. Even the Pirates who know the process well were outbid.
November 9, 201510 yr To be fair, the Marlins may not have thought it'd go that high. They may have bid 12 million for all we know and incorrectly assumed it'd be enough Their reputation suggests otherwise to me. I would guess 1.2 million over 12 million. They just don't go after international talent.
November 9, 201510 yr Their reputation suggests otherwise to me. I would guess 1.2 million over 12 million. They just don't go after international talent. They would gain nothing by bidding unless it was a serious bid with a chance to win. Kang got 5 million last year, odds are any team trying went around 10 mil including the fish.
November 9, 201510 yr There's no reason for any team to bid low. If they're gonna try, they'll bid high, or at least what they honestly perceive to be high. If they wanted to be cheap they just wouldn't bid at all.
November 9, 201510 yr There's no reason for any team to bid low. If they're gonna try, they'll bid high, or at least what they honestly perceive to be high. If they wanted to be cheap they just wouldn't bid at all. Precisely.
November 9, 201510 yr I wonder who will be the first to use one of these bids to block an opposing team from acquiring a talent.
November 11, 201510 yr I wonder who will be the first to use one of these bids to block an opposing team from acquiring a talent. I'm sure it has happened multiple times already, just no team will ever say it publicly. It would be a dumb decision to say "yeah we just bid so teams X & Y would not get him" instead of "we are excited for what he can bring to the team" or something to that effect.
November 11, 201510 yr I'm sure it has happened multiple times already, just no team will ever say it publicly. It would be a dumb decision to say "yeah we just bid so teams X & Y would not get him" instead of "we are excited for what he can bring to the team" or something to that effect. Most players get signed after they're posted, aren't they?
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