SilverBullet Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 So will attendance be better? Single-game ticket sales are ahead of last year’s pace and heading into Saturday when they went on sale, a team spokesman said they had sold more than double last year’s presale. Sales on Saturday at FanFest were well ahead of the first day of on-sale last year according to the Marlins. From the Herald. This came from "team officials" so the accuracy is debatable but I'm starting to think it's not out of the question that attendance could be "better" than last year even if it's only by a small margin. For all the people who say they're not going to games anymore we already know they didn't even go to the games last year so they can't even be counted upon. For many smarter and more die hard Marlins fans, many will go no matter what and some might even go more because they actually do see hope in a rebuild at this point. If Jeter's plans to connect to the community and more local businesses works then that might bring more people through corporate and group events too. Don't get me wrong, there are many who won't show up in 2018 just because the team is gonna compete for worst team in the majors but if you consider how low attendance already was and the way Jeter is trying to engage the community more... maybe attendance will actually rise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Single game tickets are only up because of AL East opponents obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 So with the Red Sox and Yankees coming in there should a bump for the way fans, the Mets come in 3 times so there's a bump in attendance for those games, I guess you can add in the Cubs and yeah there might be a slight increase in attendance. I'd be more interested to see where season tickets are for this off-season compared to last. I can't see how this team will have better attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHRISTYTOD Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Not to mention the Yankees fans who will come to support Jeter, Denbo, Mattingly, Castro and more. I believe attendance WILL be up in 2018! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I could see this happening if the attendance for the cubs, yanks, and sox series are big and then the prospects we bring up midseason show some promise. Only because the attendance last year was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanmarlin Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 So the people in the Miami really hate G,Bear,Yeli and Dee… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocajon Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Remember '98....if Bour does not stay healthy....this could be dismal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 So the people in the Miami really hate G,Bear,Yeli and Dee… who's Dee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanmarlin Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 who's Dee? Gordon Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 who's Dee? Deez nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfJack Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Deez nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmg42 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 From the Herald. This came from "team officials" so the accuracy is debatable but I'm starting to think it's not out of the question that attendance could be "better" than last year even if it's only by a small margin. For all the people who say they're not going to games anymore we already know they didn't even go to the games last year so they can't even be counted upon. For many smarter and more die hard Marlins fans, many will go no matter what and some might even go more because they actually do see hope in a rebuild at this point. If Jeter's plans to connect to the community and more local businesses works then that might bring more people through corporate and group events too. Don't get me wrong, there are many who won't show up in 2018 just because the team is gonna compete for worst team in the majors but if you consider how low attendance already was and the way Jeter is trying to engage the community more... maybe attendance will actually rise? Well, I was a half-season ticket plan holder last year and I'm not planning on going at this point, so this statement isn't wholly true. It's not just because they killed the team for a few years - it's also because they raised ticket prices at the same time. Let the Yankee and Red Sox fans fill the stadium for a few games this year - fine by me. Wake me up when Jeter does something, anything, better than Loria/Samson did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Wake me up when Jeter does something, anything, better than Loria/Samson did. You must have overslept because he's already done plenty of things better than them. I'm not planning on going at this point, so this statement isn't wholly true. It's not just because they killed the team for a few years - it's also because they raised ticket prices at the same time I have no problem with this statement. I know not all fans will continue to go and I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to pay higher prices to watch a worse team in the immediate future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmg42 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 He already has. The Loria method this off-season would have been to flush more bad money down the drain. At least now there's some hope for the future. Signing Jon Jay or Melky Cabrera sounds like more flushing to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Signing Jon Jay or Melky Cabrera sounds like more flushing to me... Those would be 1 year stopgap deals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Signing them also shows the Marlins putting money towards free agency, giving work and money to players who still need it... it pleases MLB and the union. It's smart in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanmarlin Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Why the attendance of a rebuilding season would be better than a win-now mode season !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Why the attendance of a rebuilding season would be better than a win-now mode season !? Because attendance was so bad last year. A couple of near sell outs for the Yankees and Red Sox games might actually put the total attendance higher than last years as sad as that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmg42 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The idea is a one year deal so they can be spun at the deadline to a contender if they work out. Also allows us to keep some service clocks from starting. I understand about the service clocks. But why not just play someone like Austin Dean or Scott Van Slyke? Why the stopgap - I mean, if y'all don't care if we win 55 or 65 or 75, why bother spending the money at all - just use it to pay down the club debt. Under what circumstance would Jon Jay or Melky Cabrera net us a prospect worth anything in July? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I understand about the service clocks. But why not just play someone like Austin Dean or Scott Van Slyke? Why the stopgap - I mean, if y'all don't care if we win 55 or 65 or 75, why bother spending the money at all - just use it to pay down the club debt. Under what circumstance would Jon Jay or Melky Cabrera net us a prospect worth anything in July? I understand your rationale, but its about both the potential to flip the established but not great major leaguer we would potentially sign at the deadline for whatever we could get as well as forming an actual major league roster, even if they will still be bad. Austin Dean stinks and Scott Van slyke has potential as a nice minor league signing but he shouldnt be starting every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmg42 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I understand your rationale, but its about both the potential to flip the established but not great major leaguer we would potentially sign at the deadline for whatever we could get as well as forming an actual major league roster, even if they will still be bad. Austin Dean stinks and Scott Van slyke has potential as a nice minor league signing but he shouldnt be starting every day. Cabrera was pretty bad last year - .748 OPS with 17 HR in 620 AB - just brutal for a corner OF in 2017. Jon Jay's OPS was .746, though Jay can play CF with relative competence. Look, if we're talking service clocks, then we're talking 2 months. Jay made 8 million last year an Cabrera made 15 million last year. Guys like that often retire rather than take a pennies-on-the-dollar deal. So let's say we drive a hard bargain and pay one of these guys 5 million on a one-year deal for a guy to basically play 2 months until Sierra or Brinson is called up. What's the point of that? Is any fan going to say, "Hey, we just signed Jon Jay - this team is really trying to win!" And is any team going to say, "We're a contender, and our CF just got hurt - we have to get Jon Jay!" Jay gets bonus points for being a Cane, but seriously, this whole idea is just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 They aren’t trying to appease fans with the signings. As true as this is you'd be shocked how many of the casual fans would see a Melky Cabrera signing and say "oh finally the Marlins are adding good players!" I know one for sure. Also, I spoke to someone who said to me the other day, "How can they have started spring training if they still haven't signed any players to replace the ones they traded away?" It's like people don't realize there's 68 players in camp, like if the 9 starting players from last season were the only guys on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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