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2004 Season

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Inspite of losing DLee, Pudge, and Redman, could the Marlins go all the way again this season? In my opinion i would say i dont know because they lost good players but they still have the talent to do it, but it would be a little more challanging then last year. What do you think.

The potential is definately there without a doubt. I think we have just as good, if not better, a shot though for 04. Sure Pudge is gone and the baseball world seems to think he carried the team all season when it was in fact mainly the NLCS. Someone else on this talented team is sure to step up and replace the intensity that Pudge brought to the lineup. I'm definately excited thats for sure.

Yes sure they have a chance but the Expos got better and so did alot of other teams , and that will make the Marlins have a tougher time.

They lost Vlad and Vazquez

Yes sure they have a chance but the Expos got better and so did alot of other teams , and that will make the Marlins have a tougher time.

I think the Phillies did a little better than Montreal this off-season... :whistle

They need to be focused this year. They might be feeling a little relaxed because they're the World Champs. Although they have been some changes with players, I think they will do a good job this year.

Yes sure they have a chance but the Expos got better and so did alot of other teams , and that will make the Marlins have a tougher time.

I like a challenge

Inspite of losing DLee, Pudge, and Redman, could the Marlins go all the way again this season? In my opinion i would say i dont know because they lost good players but they still have the talent to do it, but it would be a little more challanging then last year. What do you think.

Losing Redman was nullified by the addition of Oliver, who is just as good and far less money. Marlins are better at closer with Benitez and Fox is better setup than Vlady Nunez was to start the season. Repeating in any sport is difficult. If we get Cordero, the team will be solid in all phases. Pudge's loss won't be that great since he wasn't going to play 144 games this year anyway. Pudge will become a DH in the AL. So losing Pudge isn't that big a deal. Conine is better in left than Hollandsworth was to start last year. Cabrera is better than Encarnacion. Team is solid is all areas. Repeat is possible. Can't say automatic because you can't foresee injuries. I do foresee Burnett providing a lift late in the season the way Beckett did. I think Burnett is the key to the season. If he is strong down the stretch, watch out.

Yes sure they have a chance but the Expos got better and so did alot of other teams , and that will make the Marlins have a tougher time.

I like a challenge Expos lost Vazquez and Guerrero. How on earth did they get better? Are you completely braindead?

Losing Redman was nullified by the addition of Oliver, who is just as good and far less money.

 

I guess that's why the A's took Redman over an available Darren Oliver for almost $3 million more for the year. Maybe there's a career for you as GM of the A's because clearly you have a better handle on baseball talent than Billy Beane does.

 

 

lol :thumbdown

Yes sure they have a chance but the Expos got better and so did alot of other teams , and that will make the Marlins have a tougher time.

In what way did the Expos get BETTER?

 

they lost 2 of their biggest players in Vlad and Vasquez which is easily -10 wins

Losing Redman was nullified by the addition of Oliver, who is just as good and far less money.

 

I guess that's why the A's took Redman over an available Darren Oliver for almost $3 million more for the year. Maybe there's a career for you as GM of the A's because clearly you have a better handle on baseball talent than Billy Beane does.

 

 

lol :thumbdown in this case, yes, it's not me who has a better handle on things than Billy Beane. It's Admin Beinfest. The Marlins get a productive lefty, just as productive as Redman. Oliver can hit, by the way. Redman couldn't even bunt. Yes on this one the Marlins totally got the better of it. Give me Darren Oliver over Mark Redman right now for the dollars spent. By the way, getting rid of Redman allowed Marlins to keep Burnett too. So think of it, Marlins get Burnett/Oliver for 3.250 mil. Redman signs for 3.9. Brilliant moves by Beinfest. Maybe Billy Beane should think more like the Marlins GM. Then he may actually figure out how to win in the playoffs.

Oliver can hit, by the way. Redman couldn't even bunt. Yes on this one the Marlins totally got the better of it.

Not to pick on you Repeatin04, but I love how everyone is so quick to point out that Oliver hits better than Redman, using that in their reasoning for why we got the better deal. He isn't getting paid to hit, folks. He may get 50 AB's this year if he's lucky. I don't see the big deal here.

I think the marlins are great every year but last year I felt this feeling that I haven't felt since O let's say 97....and also this year I am getting a little tingle and it feels good. I really hope we can do it again even though it will be harder.

Pudge is a big loss but I think Castro will do just great.

Dlee huge lost and that damn chink better step up.

Also redman loss hurts but that's ok cuz now we got oliver and burnett will be healthy.

Also beckett is starting to grow into his true awesome potential.

DTRAIN will get rolling again and even though we lost urbina I think benitez finally will start performing like he can and cabs also has grown up.

WE CAN DO IT. :marlins

Oliver can hit, by the way. Redman couldn't even bunt. Yes on this one the Marlins totally got the better of it.

Not to pick on you Repeatin04, but I love how everyone is so quick to point out that Oliver hits better than Redman, using that in their reasoning for why we got the better deal. He isn't getting paid to hit, folks. He may get 50 AB's this year if he's lucky. I don't see the big deal here. hey, if dude goes 10/50 then I'm happy as hell. Especially if some of those hits are rbi's and he wins the game for us.

OK alot of people think that tejera and oliver suck...well let's see what happens after this season

Oliver has an 84-76 or something lifetime record. He throws 180 innings. Makes 33 starts last year. That is hardly sucky. You fools need to get a grip and an understanding of baseball. It's thoughts and posts like yours that reflect why Marlins fans are among the worst in history

Oliver can hit, by the way. Redman couldn't even bunt. Yes on this one the Marlins totally got the better of it.

Not to pick on you Repeatin04, but I love how everyone is so quick to point out that Oliver hits better than Redman, using that in their reasoning for why we got the better deal. He isn't getting paid to hit, folks. He may get 50 AB's this year if he's lucky. I don't see the big deal here. hey, if dude goes 10/50 then I'm happy as hell. Especially if some of those hits are rbi's and he wins the game for us. Yeah, 10 for 50, I'm happy too, but that's still really not a great reason to be included for why we got Oliver. After he gets his 4 or 5 starts til' Burnett comes back, he'll have even less chances to get that game-winning RBI.

Yes sure they have a chance but the Expos got better and so did alot of other teams , and that will make the Marlins have a tougher time.

I like a challenge Expos lost Vazquez and Guerrero. How on earth did they get better? Are you completely braindead? sarcasm

 

ass clown

Losing Redman was nullified by the addition of Oliver, who is just as good and far less money.

 

I guess that's why the A's took Redman over an available Darren Oliver for almost $3 million more for the year. Maybe there's a career for you as GM of the A's because clearly you have a better handle on baseball talent than Billy Beane does.

 

 

lol :thumbdown in this case, yes, it's not me who has a better handle on things than Billy Beane. It's Admin Beinfest. The Marlins get a productive lefty, just as productive as Redman. Oliver can hit, by the way. Redman couldn't even bunt. Yes on this one the Marlins totally got the better of it. Give me Darren Oliver over Mark Redman right now for the dollars spent. By the way, getting rid of Redman allowed Marlins to keep Burnett too. So think of it, Marlins get Burnett/Oliver for 3.250 mil. Redman signs for 3.9. Brilliant moves by Beinfest. Maybe Billy Beane should think more like the Marlins GM. Then he may actually figure out how to win in the playoffs.

Try as you will to weasel out of what you said, let me quote you "Losing Redman was nullified by the addition of Oliver, who is just as good and far less money.

 

The operative phrase is "just as good" , and nothing could be farther from the truth. Comparing Redman's relative value to Oliver's based on price would be like saying five day old fish are "just as good" as fresh fish because one cost $6.00 per lb and other 25 cents per pound.

 

Beinfest didn't sign Oliver because he was "just as good" as Redman but cheaper. He got him because he was still available and cheap and could eat up innings. And without a sizable investment at risk, he could dump him and move on if the guy didn't produce.

 

You can try and throw an AJ into the mix to disguise your misstatement, you can amplify on your comments until they are virtually unrecognizable, but the fact is you're wrong about comparing Redman to Oliver, just as you wrong to suggest Admin Beinfest out-smarted Billy Beane by picking up this guy.

OK alot of people think that tejera and oliver suck...well let's see what happens after this season

Oliver has an 84-76 or something lifetime record. He throws 180 innings. Makes 33 starts last year. That is hardly sucky. You fools need to get a grip and an understanding of baseball. It's thoughts and posts like yours that reflect why Marlins fans are among the worst in history I don't mean it that way... I think tejera and oliver are awesome.

Im saying alot of other people are critizing these guys...not me.

OK alot of people think that tejera and oliver suck...well let's see what happens after this season

Oliver has an 84-76 or something lifetime record. He throws 180 innings. Makes 33 starts last year. That is hardly sucky. You fools need to get a grip and an understanding of baseball. It's thoughts and posts like yours that reflect why Marlins fans are among the worst in history Agreed.

OK alot of people think that tejera and oliver suck...well let's see what happens after this season

Oliver has an 84-76 or something lifetime record. He throws 180 innings. Makes 33 starts last year. That is hardly sucky. You fools need to get a grip and an understanding of baseball. It's thoughts and posts like yours that reflect why Marlins fans are among the worst in history Agreed.

So Wild, I assume by your post you believe that "Marlins fans are among the worst in history" ?

 

And I assume you agree what Repeatin said about Fishfan25 and people here in general "You fools need to get a grip and an understanding of baseball" ?

 

Good to know what you really think of everyone here and what you think about fans generally. It clears up alot when it comes to your posts.

 

Nice company you're keeping. :thumbdown

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