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I thought the halftime show was awesome. Prince was great.

Cool man, thanks for the post.

Anyone listen to it? I'm just starting to get into it and would appreciate some suggestions. I downloaded a couple mixes a member at clubsi.com posted and I'm lovin it. Great stuff. http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ub...r/933593/page/5 I don't even know the differences between the different types of electronic music, but I know I like trance. Whoever can fill me in on some basic differences, you'd rule.

Eric Clapton, Derek Trucks, Jeff Lynne, Victor Wooten, Kofi Burbridge, Terry Bozzio, Marc Quinones. Now that would be a halftime show. I don't listen to Prince much, but I do know he is a great guitarist. I saw a George Harrison tribute where a bunch of artists played While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and Prince played a ROCKIN' (!!!!!!) solo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ND7wSZj-L0 (it starts around 3:30) That's enough to gain my interest, fruity attire or not.

Accord, your argument went from you being sick that there's an "incredible lack of patriotism and national pride among many Americans these days" to you being sick by the notion that there might be people who "who don't want the men who have raised their right hand and sworn to protect every American life not to hold American citizens in a higher regard over others." There is a huge difference between the point you originally made and the one you now seem to be making. Nobody is questioning that an American soldier should cherish American lives over those of the nation which he is fighting. I don't think anybody disagrees with that, even Buckeye admitted that. But you originally said "An innocent American life is more valuable than the life of an innocent civilian of another nationality. That's just the way it is." That is the issue people are fighting against. Saying a military man should care more about the well-being of his comrades and those on the home front than his enemies and saying that if someone doesn't think American lives are more important than non-American lives it's "disgusting" are two entirely different things. Do you understand the distinction?

Ellison did not ask, or demand, Virgil H. Goode, Jr. to swear on the Koran. He made an issue out of nothing.

Do you care about some random innocent American from Arkansas who is murdered by another American from Arkansas who lives down the street? I doubt you care more about that person than a random Iraqi who is killed by another Iraqi. An innocent person is an innocent person. My innocent life is not any more precious than the innocent life of someone who was born in a different geographical location. Maybe I'm unpatriotic if that's what you want to call me, but I don't like every single person who lives in this country, and I am not of the opinion that an American is more precious than a non-American. I am an American because I was born here and surrounded by this culture, and that's it. We dropped bombs on Japan because we were in a war and we had to. The fact that the Japanese were victims and not Americans does not make the act any more right than what the Japanese were planning to do to us.

I work at the circulation desk at the UF law school library and man, those people are all so miserable. I'm sure it's worth it though in the end. Good luck to you.

Easily the best episode of the season, hilarious!

I don't get to play it very often, but I just entered the Arbiter's Grounds. This place is massive.

Opening Credits: Up On Cripple Creek by The Band Waking-up Scene: Mr. Blue Sky by Electric Light Orchestra Average-day scene: Sittin' on The Dock of The Bay by Otis Redding Best-friend scene: Green Onions by Booker T and the MGs First-date scene: July, July by The Decemberists Falling-in-love scene: Just Like A Woman by Bob Dylan Sex scene: Indian Summer by The Doors Break-up scene: She's Electric by Oasis Missing your "love" scene: Don't Let Me Down by The Beatles Get-back-together scene: I Hope Tomorrow Is Like Today by Guster Getting your ass kicked scene: Stockholm Syndrome by Muse Someone close dying heartbreak scene: Agaetis Byrjun by Sigur Ros Mental-breakdown scene: Frankenstein by Edgar Winter Group Slow Driving Scene: Traffic by Stereophonics Car Chase/Fast Driving scene: Peekaboo by Robert Randolph and the Family Band Drunken Stupor scene: Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits Deep-thought scene: Watermelon in Easter Hay by Frank Zappa Flashback scene: Almost Crimes by Broken Social Scene Gunfight Scene: Bolero de Ravel by Andre Reiu Party scene: Long Train Runnin' by The Doobie Brothers Slow Dance scene: Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton Regret scene: Have You Ever Seen The Rain? by Creedence Clearwater Revival Long-night-alone scene: Homesick by Kings of Convenience Death scene: Summertime by Janis Joplin Funeral scene: No Surprises by Radiohead Closing credits: Wooden Ships by Crosby, Stills, & Nash

Except that Michigan did not win its conference this year, but Florida did in 1996. And that OSU/Mich are in the same conference, while UF/FSU are not.

Just wanted to point out that in 1996, Florida lost its conference championship game to Florida State, then got to play them again for the championship game and won. Florida fans were singing a different tune about a rematch back then. FSU was the final regular season game, as it is every year. UF then beat Alabama in the conference championship. FSU can't play UF in the conference championship, as FSU is not in the SEC.

Just got back from Atlanta, AMAZING!!!

I had Martin explain to me three times what he got arrested for, because... it sounds an awful lot like what I do here... every day.

11.5 hours, just beat the goron mines

This isn't even a stopwatch. It's a digital thermometer. Scranton Witch Project lol

Like I said, if that's not your thing then that's fine. But to call this a terrible lineup is absurd, because it's far from it. I like Wilco and The Flaming Lips also, but to say that none of these bands can touch them is ridiculous unless you've actually seen these bands perform, which I'm guessing you haven't. Bob, do you really believe that jam bands don't focus on making the song better live? There's no comparing a jam band's studio work and its live work, the live work is infinitely better. What do you mean "the song comes before anything"? What is the song? To you I guess it's the lyrics and the verses, well to me it's the music. I enjoy listening to music that starts as one thing and through improvisation builds up and eventually explodes into something completely crazy and unexpected. That's what makes these bands enjoyable every time you see them: each show is completely different from the last. I could go watch Wilco and watch them perform Spiders or At Least That's What You Said, but each time it's pretty much the same thing. Sounds great, sure, but gets boring after a while. I could listen to Perpetual Groove play Sundog or Green Tea and each time it will be a new experience. That, to me, is amazing. Did I even look at last year's lineup before spouting this nonsense? I was at last year's festival, as well as the one in '05 (where String Cheese Incident blew the place apart). I saw Wilco and The Flaming Lips last year. But did you bother to see Umphrey's McGee? I bet not. I also don't see why you think that just because these bands jam, they don't write songs. Widespread Panic and Tea Leaf Green specifically pride themselves on their songwriting. The only band I could see maybe that didn't put much effort into songwriting is early Phish, but early Phish is over 20 years old. And it's not as if a jam is something that didn't have time and effort put into crafting it. To me, when 4, 5, or even 6 musicians can improvise together and then suddenly change tempo, style, etc simultaneously, that is extremely impressive. That does not come without practice. It's not like they're sitting there noodling around with no focus. I forgot to mention North Mississippi Allstars, who I've seen twice and put on a brilliant show that makes it impossible for you to not dance. I guess people don't like this music much because it's too complex and free-flowing, I mean like you said Mabdul, you get bored during a jam. It's not for everyone. All rock music stems from jazz, but this sort of music is exactly like jazz. Jazz isn't for everyone. But don't say it's mediocre if you haven't seen any of the bands live. How can you criticize something you've never seen?

This is NOT a terrible lineup. Quite the contrary, actually. It's an UNBELIEVABLE lineup. I don't know what the stigma surrounding "hippie jam bands" are but have you actually listened to any of them? They are without question the most talented, intriguing, technical musicians that exist today, but you'd never know it because they are just dismissed as hippie jam bands and aren't given a chance. They are the closest to resembling the '60s and '70s era of music when it was all about the music, not catchy choruses or moneymaking schemes. If you like MUSIC, you will love this festival. These bands mix mulitple genres of music seamlessly and build up instrumental jams that can last 10-15 minutes and reach an intensity that will just blow your mind. I'm not saying everyone will like this music (but it's hard for me to imagine how if you like rock, jazz, bluegrass, funk, soul, electronica, fusion, etc how you wouldn't). But to dismiss it without even giving it a chance just because they are associated with hippies is ridiculous. Give them a chance. The following bands will all BLOW YOU AWAY: Widespread Panic Trey Moe Bela Fleck and the Fleckstones Michael Franti Medeski Martin & Wood Explosions In The Sky Mofro Perpetual Groove Tea Leaf Green New Monsoon Assembly of Dust I'm not kidding. Most of these bands allow taping and trading of their shows. Do yourself a favor and check out archive.org or bt.etree.org and download a show. You will not be disappointed.

I like it a lot. Things are starting to get really interesting.

I wouldn't write them off as just a hippie jam band, though there will be hippies in attendance. The quality of this band's musicianship is better than 99% of popular bands out there.

I saw it last week and it was hysterical. Everything you're expecting and more.

Anyone a fan of SCI? They're one of the premiere bands in the jam band scene, they mix so many different genres of music and are simply excellent. Their current tour is wrapping up soon, with the last show being in Gainesville. If you're in Gainesville this Saturday (the 21st) they are playing for FREE on Flavet Field at 6pm. Since it's the last show of the tour, I've heard it's gonna be four hours long. Can't wait.

Talking Heads

The show was crazy, can't wait to see more. I'm assuming the show will progress forward in time while having flashbacks to the bank?