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I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands How do you know that the crime rate wouldn't be higher but for the strong gun control? There's strong gun control in England and other European countries and their crime rates are way lower than in the United States. How do you explain that? Nevertheless, I believe in reasonable gun control - but not strong gun control. I think the government would have too much power over its subjects if gun control were too strong. I know I sound like a crazy, but I really think a well-armed population stops government in its tracks if it tries to grab too much power. to be completely honest, I'm not sure if crime rate would go down. but at least the average joe would have a fighting chance to defend himself. I believe in gun control, where most law abiding citizens with a clean record could own a gun (with background checks being required). I'm not in favor of wide open ownership

I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands

More pain. The last 26 trading days the S&P has lost 33%. It looked like the Markets might just trade even today, no buyers but no major sell offs, then bam...literally 15 minutes before the close all the sellers come. S&P finished down more than 3%...Tomorrow should be fascinating; does the sell off continue? best case scenario will be for the dow to go down in the morning and test the previous low of 7,882, and then rebound in the afternoon. that could be a good technical sign that a short term bottom has been reached. I'm not positive on this happening

I know the OP is seeking the opinions of democrats voting for Obama, and I'm not one... Here is why I don't like the Obama plan (main points): 1) We are in a global economy, and the US must compete at the global level. Raising taxes on corporations will not make us more competitive. 2) Most med/large corporations reinvest their income and put it back into the economy. Most corporations today don't pay dividends. You take more of their income and that factor diminishes. 3) Raising Capital taxes is no a matter of 'fairness', you are investing with taxed dollars and there is a lot of risk (loosing capital). The risk-reward scenario must be reasonable to attract domestic and foreign capital. Especially with a down economy. raising cap gains taxes is probably the worst thing that can be done at this time. 4) Making the gov bigger is not the answer, we must make it smaller and not rely on economic booms to bring surpluses. 5) The Gov is a wasteful monster, I rather see the private sector investment than giving the Gov more money to spent.

Here is Sarah Palin's interpretation of what Biden was talking about (delivered during a rally speech)...This is golden :lol Two weeks from today, Americans will be asked to cast their vote for the next president of the United States. There's no time to wait. Let's get right to it. Did you hear what Senator Biden said at a fundraiser on Sunday? He guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected, we'll face an international crisis within the first six months of their administration. He told Democrat donors to mark his words ? that there were "at least four or five scenarios" that would place our country at risk in an Obama administration. Thanks for the warning, Joe! He didn't specify what all those four or five scenarios will be, but for clues, let's review the Obama foreign policy agenda. Our opponent wants to sit down with the world's worst dictators. With no preconditions, he proposes to meet with a regime in Teheran that vows to "wipe Israel off the map." Let's call that crisis scenario number one. Senator Obama has also advocated sending our U.S. military into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government. Invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war against terrorism. We'll call that scenario number two. He opposed the surge strategy that has finally brought victory in Iraq within sight. He's voted to cut off funding for our troops, leaving our young men and women at grave risk. He wants to pull out, leaving some 25 million Iraqis at the mercy of Iranian-supported Shiite extremists and al Qaeda in Iraq. By his own admission, this could mean our troops would have to go back to Iraq. Crisis scenario number three. After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence ? the kind of response that would only encourage Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine next. That would be crisis scenario number four. But I guess the looming crisis that most worries the Obama campaign right now is Joe Biden's next speaking engagement. Let's call that crisis scenario number five. The real problem is that these warnings from Joe Biden are similar to his earlier assessment of Barack Obama. It wasn't so long ago that he said Barack Obama wasn't up to the job, and that, quote, "the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." The same Joe Biden said he would be honored to run on the ticket with John McCain because, quote, "the country would be better off." And here we have some common ground. I want a president who spent 22 years in uniform defending our country. I want a president who isn't afraid to use the word "victory" when he talks about the wars we are fighting. I want a president who's ready on Day One. I want a president with the experience and the judgment and the wisdom to meet the next international crisis ? or better yet to avoid it. I want John McCain as our commander-in-chief.

it is a free country...even tho I disagree with his endorsement, I applaud Powell for standing up for what he believes in

Can we at least post the full quotes? I agree that this was a bad comment to make, that came out wrong..but in her defense she was comparing the rural areas to Washington DC polititians Gaffe Counts: Biden - 100 Palin - 10 "We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe" -- here the audience interrupted Palin with applause and cheers -- "We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom." Can someone explain wtf was Biden thinking when he made the following comments? How does this helps Obama? ?Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We?re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.? he told a fund raising crowd in the Pacific Northwest on Sunday. ?Remember I said it standing here if you don?t remember anything else I said. Watch, we?re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.? ?He?s gonna have to make some really tough - I don?t know what the decision?s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it?s gonna happen.?

The problem is that Fannie and Freddie was used as a garbage disposal to grow the credit bubble this statement is very telling.... "More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions." who ended up owning the paper, and buying these mortgages? also, we have a horrible monetary policy when we allow large investment banks lend 10 to 1 in relation to their assets. The initial nuke was the sub prime, but it could have been some other thing like a major natural catastrophe or another terrorist attack.

Spending is half of the equation. Obama also wants to spread the wealth around by punishing success and rewarding failure through his tax policy. That's problematic. You don't cut spending in an economic downturn. That's econ 101. How is it punishing success? Give me a break. You think I am going to be less motivated to make more money because I will be paying 36 percent in taxes at the highest income tax brackets? Please! talking about econ 101....how about you don't raise taxes on anybody on an economic downturn; and don't even touch corporations at this point until the dust settle..Seriously, I rather see my taxes increased than seeing the taxes of my employer being increased. Agreed about not raising taxes on anybody during an economic downturn. If I am not mistaken, Obama has specifically said he's going to put off raising taxes on the top 1 percent until the economy recovers. I got to tell you, I didn't get a warm and fuzzy about Obama delaying any tax increases

I thought for the first time McCain won. Obama got away from that thing that was going to win the election for him: He stopped throwing the Bush jab at him. That is why he won the first two, he constantly threw that Bush jab and McCain just couldn't get away from it, Obama for some reason got away from it in this debate...horrible move. McCain got angry and Said "I'm NOT Bush" and after that Obama backed off. It worked. McCain was on the offense all night...He also did what he should have done from the beginning: Make it about Obama being more BIG government, we don't need big government, it doesn't work, it will never work, Obama is big government. He also brought up how we don't need to tax ANYONE, doesn't matter how rich, you just don't tax people more money, he did a great job of bringing that up. Will it be enough? Who knows...Obama also looked flustered for the first time. pretty much my sentiment. At the end, Obama did what he needed to do..but I don't think anyone was expecting this last debate to be a game changer. Joe the Plumber got some pretty good air time.

Ayers is now what - a professor at the University of Chicago? Some terrorist he is, he didn't even make the watch list. Ayers was part of the weathermen group, if you asked Ayers himself he would have told you he was a terrorist. He also is open about being a communist. I personally don't feel like it's a big deal though, Ayers was just an extremely anti-war, anti-racist fighter against the government. His problem was he just completely skipped the non-violence phases of protest and went straight to the sabotage stage by setting off explosives in government buildings; people were killed, although the only ones killed were people working with/for him. Osama Bin Laden he is not, but don't get the idea that he is just some American loving professor. I also don't believe that he has influenced Barack much, if any. They were both powerful figures in Chicago, their paths were bound to cross. Thank you for summing up exactly how I feel about Ayers and their relationship. Is it relevant? Sure, to an extent. The McCain camp is acting like it's a deal breaker right now and I think it's a little ridiculous. Now, if Ayers were running for office, I wouldn't vote for him, but sheesh, how many degrees of separation does the GOP want? this is a non issue. The McCain camp is trying to throw everything they can and see if anything sticks. It is a political desperation move. The other side would do the same if the roles were reversed.

I don't care where they get the voters, as long as they just keep it to one vote/per person! Which is in serious question here.

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http://buchanan.org/blog/2008/10/pjb-liquidating-the-empire/ October 14, 2008 PJB: Liquidating the Empire By Patrick j. Buchanan ?Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers.? So Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon advised Herbert Hoover in the Great Crash of ?29. Hoover did. And the nation liquidated him ? and the Republicans. In the Crash of 2008, 40 percent of stock value has vanished, almost $9 trillion. Some $5 trillion in real estate value has disappeared. A recession looms with sweeping layoffs, unemployment compensation surging, and social welfare benefits soaring. America?s first trillion-dollar deficit is at hand. In Fiscal Year 2008 the deficit was $438 billion. With tax revenue sinking, we will add to this year?s deficit the $200 to $300 billion needed to wipe the rotten paper off the books of Fannie and Freddie, the $700 billion (plus the $100 billion in add-ons and pork) for the Wall Street bailout, the $85 billion to bail out AIG, and $37 billion more now needed, the $25 billion for GM, Chrysler and Ford, and the hundreds of billions Hank Paulson will need to buy corporate paper and bail out banks to stop the panic. As Americans save nothing, where are the feds going to get the money? Is the Fed going to print it and destroy the dollar and credit rating of the United States? Because the nations whose vaults are full of dollars and U.S. debt ? China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf Arabs ? are reluctant to lend us more. Sovereign wealth funds that plunged billions into U.S. banks have already been burned. Uncle Sam?s VISA card is about to be stamped ?Canceled.? The budget is going to have to go under the knife. But what gets cut? Social Security and Medicare are surely exempt. Seniors have already taken a huge hit in their 401(k)s. And as the Democrats are crafting another $150 billion stimulus package for the working poor and middle class, Medicaid and food stamps are untouchable. Interest on the debt cannot be cut. It is going up. Will a Democratic Congress slash unemployment benefits, welfare, education, student loans, veterans benefits ? in a recession? No way. Yet, that is almost the entire U.S. budget ? except for defense, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and foreign aid. And this is where the axe will eventually fall. It is the American Empire that is going to be liquidated. Retrenchment has begun with Bush?s backing away from confrontations with Axis-of-Evil charter members Iran and North Korea over their nuclear programs, and will likely continue with a negotiated peace in Afghanistan. Gen. Petraeus and Secretary Gates are already talking ?reconciliation? with the Taliban. We no longer live in Eisenhower or Reagan?s America. Even the post-Cold War world of George H. W. Bush, where America was a global hegemon, is history. In both relative and real terms, the U.S.A. is a diminished power. Where Ike spent 9 percent of GDP on defense, Reagan 6 percent, we spend 4 percent. Yet we have two wars bleeding us and many more nations to defend, with commitments in the Baltic, Eastern Europe, and the Balkans we did not have in the Cold War. As U.S. weapons systems are many times more expensive today, we have fewer strategic aircraft and Navy ships than Ike or Reagan commanded. Our active-duty Army and Marine Corps consist of 700,000 troops, 15 percent women, and a far higher percentage of them support rather than combat troops. With so few legions, we cannot police the world, and we cannot afford more. Yet, we have a host of newly hostile nations we did not have in 1989. U.S. interests in Latin America are being challenged not only by Cuba, but Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Honduras. Brazil, Argentina and Chile go their own way. Russia is reasserting hegemony in the Caucasus, testing new ICBMs, running bomber probes up to U.S. air space. China, growing at 10 percent as we head into recession, is bristling over U.S. military sales to Taiwan. Iran remains defiant. Pakistan is rife with anti-Americanism and al-Qaida sentiment. The American Empire has become a vast extravagance. With U.S. markets crashing and wealth vanishing, what are we doing with 750 bases and troops in over 100 countries? With a recession of unknown depth and duration looming, why keep borrowing billions from rich Arabs to defend rich Europeans, or billions from China and Japan to hand out in Millennium Challenge Grants to Tanzania and Burkina Faso? America needs a bottom-up review of all strategic commitments dating to a Cold War now over for 20 years. Is it essential to keep 30,000 troops in a South Korea with twice the population and 40 times the wealth of the North? Why are McCain and Obama offering NATO memberships, i.e., war guarantees against Russia, to a Georgia run by a hothead like Mikheil Saakashvili, and a Ukraine, millions of whose people prefer their kinship to Russia to an alliance with us? We must put ?country first,? says John McCain. Right you are, Senator. Time to look out for America first.

Spending is half of the equation. Obama also wants to spread the wealth around by punishing success and rewarding failure through his tax policy. That's problematic. If we cut spending to levels where the income tax would cease to exist, it would be assumed that these 'redistribution of wealth' policies would be removed. That's one of the main reasons why I don't respect the Republican Party anymore. They have lost their focus on tax policy. can't disagree with that statement...They sure can talk the talk

FF, you are one of the few people I know (besides myself) that has a pessimistic outlook about this. I'd like to know the basis for your pessimism, as you don't strike me as a pessimistic person by nature? I don't have a lot of time...but to me, it all boils down to credit...We over borrowed (both Gov and the public)..We spent that money, we can't take away the excess. Most people don't have any savings, which will bite us in the rear end. We are running an economy on a financial house of cards. The Government strategy is to facilitate credit, which will re-inflate the bubble. The only factor stopping the whole thing going down is the government 'promise' of backing up the financial institutions. As we all know, we have to keep borrowing money and running record high deficits..At some point, the fed will have to raise interest rates in order to entice people to lend us money. That's going to keep the economy down for a long time. also, we will probably enter a deflationary period (which is why Depressions happens). For example, a small business may need to sell assets at heavily discounted prices to pay for debt and avoid bankruptcy. think about how foreclosures is depressing the entire real state market, and lowering the house prices for every one. I'll add more to this later.....

OK, so a board he was a member of gave money to a questionable group. I love how the article (which is from the extremely conservative 'news' site WorldNetDaily) tries to paint Obama as opposed to Israel. Considering he has always voted in favor of giving Israel what it wants from us, and his running mate has been a MAJOR pro-Israel force for almost 30 years, that's a pretty tough charge to make. I am sure that if there was anything truly wrong going on with Obama, it would have been exposed a long time ago. Since the media spent almost months dissecting Obama's relationship with Reverend Wright, I guarantee that this was investigated by many different journalists. Especially now that McCain's campaign is in an ever deepening hole, and how rough the Democratic primary was. You're going to have to do a lot better than another one of these 'OMG, Obama served on a board with a domestic terrorist!' claims, even though they almost never saw each other at these meetings. If there was any real relationship between Obama and Ayers, which clearly there wasn't, someone would have pointed it out many months ago when this first became an issue. Let's please stick to actual ISSUES, rather than accusing someone of working with terrorists. That's just absurd and unproductive. We're in a huge economic mess right now. this is what's going on... I don't care if Obama had dinner with Fidel Castro a year ago, It won't matter. They can throw anything at Obama and it will rebound like a rubber wall...this is emotional/psychological at this point. People want change, and they are going to put Obama on the white house no matter what. I've been clear on that point, since the entire 700B bill talk started. It has been downhill from McCain from there.

Spending is half of the equation. Obama also wants to spread the wealth around by punishing success and rewarding failure through his tax policy. That's problematic. You don't cut spending in an economic downturn. That's econ 101. How is it punishing success? Give me a break. You think I am going to be less motivated to make more money because I will be paying 36 percent in taxes at the highest income tax brackets? Please! talking about econ 101....how about you don't raise taxes on anybody on an economic downturn; and don't even touch corporations at this point until the dust settle..Seriously, I rather see my taxes increased than seeing the taxes of my employer being increased.

IMHO, I don't think we are at the bottom....we may be on a short term bottom on 1929....the market rebounded 60% from the initial crash and then sold off for years....be suspect for now, and look for additional confirmation.

This article is a joke....It starts by saying unlawfully, the committee stated that even tho she 'abused' her power, she didn't commit any unlawful or illegal acts. The liberal media wants Obama so bad, that they can't report anything straight Page 8 "In spite of that, Governor Palin's firing of commissioner Monegan was a PROPER and LAWFUL exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire branch department heads." http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/10/16/...affiliate.7.pdf

Two more things： 1。 The Nikkei fell nearly 8%， almost 10% at one point。 I don't know when their breaker steps in。 2. For the first time in what seems like forever， the dollar is worth less than 100 yen。 Wouldn't shock me to see sub 9000 tomorrow on the DOW. In fact I think I'd be surprised if we didn't. Well it took an extra day as yesterday the fed fired one of their last desperation bullets by lowering interest rates, and that helped the markets - we only went down 150. Today though....un'freakin'believable. We finished down 600 points and the NASDAQ is now in the 8000s. f*** it, let's just wipe out 10 years of stock market activity and start over. That's where we sit today, exactly where we did ten years ago. As far as the next bullet? I think we should be hearing about us getting checks in the mail any day now as an emergency 'stimulus' package. YAY inflation! At least oil is down below 85 dollars a barrel, but gasoline is still about 50 cents higher than it was when oil was last at 90 bucks a barrel. Not sure I get that one. http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^GSPC#c...ource=undefined With the credit contraction we're seeing, more than likely we're suffering from deflation now. Of course, just over a month ago we had fears of serious inflation. Now it's the opposite, at least in the short-term. This is probably the wildest economic ride we've been in since the Great Depression, or perhaps even earlier. Crazy times. What will be the bottom of the DOW? Could it go down much further? agreed on the deflation...something I didn't anticipated was a Global economic collapse. I do believe that the DOW will go lower, we are seeing selling on any rally attempt...200 points in the dow are evaporated in a matter of minutes when the computer programs start hitting. I can't say how low we can go, in the GD the DOw sold off 80%

the debate was boring, neither said anything new or useful. McCain made the mortgage buy up comment, but thats all BS anyway. Obama still hasn't said he will cut anything he still hasn't said how he will lower taxes, he still hasn't said how is going ot do anything really. He is just going to it all. I feel like I am at a High School election. As President I promise to do this, this and this. Come on, both candidates are joke and this election is a joke. I just feel bad for democrats taking over at such a sh*tty time, because it will be 4 and done. Remember the Carter years? feel bad for the Dems? I'm terrified of what a dominated dem Congress with Peolosi, Reid and Obama at the pres. will do.. There will be change, big change.....We may be fundamentally a different country after two years.

Obama won hands down...I don't think anything can stop Obama winning this election. I'm pretty sure he will win on a landslide. McCain looked tired and just brought to the table the same things that haven't worked for the last 2 - 3 weeks. Either the a) McCain camp expected a different debate, b) McCain is not listening to his campaign leadership and acting on his own c) or, the campaign is completely clueless

It could be a bloodbath tomorrow. Nikkei and Hang Seng currently down 4.7 and 3.5% respectively. I was about to call you a prophet. Looks like another Black Monday. I just hope if that's the case, it isn't followed by a massive bank run. GD V2 may be here sooner than expected

Maybe this is what he was referring to: Welcome To Camp Obama By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 4:20 PM PT Election '08: Voters coast-to-coast are receiving e-mails from the Obama campaign encouraging them to sign up to learn pre-election agitation tactics at "Camp Obama." Red kerchiefs, anyone? Read More: Election 2008 When readers first alerted us to the camps, we thought it might be another hoax that migrated into inboxes. But it's for real. The unsolicited pitch goes like this: "Camp Obama attendees will receive real world organizing experience that will have a direct impact on this election. Graduates of Camp Obama will go on to become Deputy Field Organizers who will lead this campaign to victory in crucial battleground states around the country." The letter continues, "By participating in Camp Obama you'll get the kind of experience that Barack got as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, where he learned that real change happens from the bottom up." While the letter neglects to identify the source of that "experience," a slide on a camp blog linked to the Obama Web site offers a clue. Underneath a "Welcome to Camp Obama" banner, a trainer at Obama headquarters in Chicago is seen speaking next to a wipe board with the words "Saul Alinsky" scrawled across it. Alinsky is the late Chicago socialist and street agitator who is considered the father of community organizing. Another slide of a camp trainer identified as Mike Kruglik is equally telling. Kruglik happens to be the Alinsky disciple who first taught Obama hardball organizing tactics on the South Side. He was Obama's boss in the '80s. Kruglik now works for the Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation, which trains and deploys radicals across the country. Kruglik once declared Obama "the undisputed master of agitation," according to David Freddoso, author of the best-seller "The Case Against Barack Obama." Obama learned well from the master agitator. Alinsky taught future radicals that bad things are often done for the right reasons, love without power is sentimental mush, power must be taken, and all change comes about as a result of threat and pressure. Obama calls his Alinskyite experience "the best education I ever had." Now he's passing it on to his groupies. He recently told supporters in Nevada, a state that will be hotly contested, to sharpen their elbows in the final lap of the race. Confront Republicans, he said, and "get in their faces." "Be absolutely ruthless," adds Camp Obama director Jocelyn Woodards, who leads the intensive two-day training course for campers in Chicago. In the Alinsky model, organizing is code for agitating. For revolution. He had no patience for liberals who merely talked of change. "Liberals protest," he wrote in "Rules for Radicals," while "radicals rebel." Liberals become "indignant," while "radicals become fighting mad and go into action." "Liberals give and take oral arguments," Alinsky added. "Radicals give and take the hard, dirty, bitter way of life." Alinsky's paragon of radicalism was Satan, to whom he dedicated the first edition of "Rules": "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom ? Lucifer." Dirty street fighting is at the heart of Obama's organizing. While he stands above the fray, his minions at ACORN are threatening, intimidating, confronting and even committing voter fraud. This is Alinsky's end-justifies-means morality in action. Whatever it takes to win the revolution. Obama needs more agitators, so he's set up these camps to train them. ACORN has the minority communities covered, while the camps are churning out mostly coed organizers. The Chicago program has already trained some 2,000 agitators to go back to their college campuses and reproduce more Obama clones. No campaign has been successful at mobilizing students to vote en masse. But Obama hired the founder of MTV's Rock the Vote to organize students and train them to use Alinsky tactics on campuses in battleground states. They have been training these students since the primaries. They in turn are registering fellow students in droves to vote, while creating massive phone banks to help get out the vote on Election Day. Meanwhile, ACORN is registering thousands of minorities to vote in key states. Such potential new voters don't show up in the national polls of "likely voters," which show a relatively tight race, because they've never voted and don't show on past rolls. If they turn out at the polls on Nov. 4, it could translate into a landslide for Obama. If he can garner better than 50% of the popular vote, he can claim a mandate for his radical agenda. What's more, all these first-time minority and student voters wouldn't vote for just Obama. They'd also more than likely vote down-ballot for other Democrats, padding their majorities in Congress. If Democrats score supermajorities, filibuster-proofing the Senate, Obama could get most of his agenda rammed through in the first 100 days, surely in the first two years, before Americans could get a chance to check Democrat power in the midterm election of 2010. How much damage could they do? Well, look at how much damage the Clintonistas did. We're now seeing the financial fruits of their social experiment to apply affirmative action to the lending business. Obama plans to conduct a far more radical social experiment. Few during this long campaign have wanted to talk about Obama's days as a community organizer or his ties to radicals, because they didn't want to raise the S word. Well, guess what? The avoidance has given him license to apply his organizing skills on a mass scale. It made the difference in the primaries when he beat the Clinton machine, and it may now make the difference in the general election. Not calling attention to Alinsky and the other socialists behind the Obama movement has even allowed creation of camps to indoctrinate American youth. If John McCain hopes to win, he'll have to act as ruthlessly as Obama's campers. He can start by exposing for voters the socialist underpinnings of community organizing.