Piazza31

It's times like these, when players such as Buck and Bell are still on a ML roster when it's obvious they are no longer capable of contributing -That I can appreciate the NFL and even hope for non guaranteed deals to become the norm in baseball.

The team can't be an all out seller and still save face. It will be addition by subtraction- H2R gone but a bat like Upton back. No way they make moves for strictly prospects who aren't ML ready

Calm down now, Chris. Sorry about that Magic Mike- I promise I'll TRY to behave

The FO tried. New uniforms: Fail Free agent acquisitions: Fail New Manager: Fail Turning this organization into a circus that everyone pokes fun at: Success! We get it- they didn't consult you before they moved their team in a new direction. We get you- your butt hurt and you want us to know. It the team makes u think they are a joke, you dislike the players, FO, and uniforms why don't you root for another team. Seriously- no foolin, go somewhere else with your bulls***. If you really don't think the FO cares about its fans you only need to look at what they did this offseason, tried to accomplish with Pujols and Wilson and that they have yet to blow up this sorry ass team. Don't blame the FO- blame Hanley for regressing and injuring his hand in a way as immature as yourself, and blame Bell for having his legs in the chicken wing position and taking it up the ass instead of jamming the ball up the oppositions. Go root for the Braves- their uniforms are timeless and their ownership knows how to field a winner. #DrippingWithSarcasm

It's kind of odd to wish for a fire sale. But we should. Next year's team should only have this year's bench players and people from the farm system. Do you have any inkling what a fire sale would do to the perception of this team and to the attendance next season? This.... A firesale is not only stupid on field wise- but it's stupid public perception wise. Trade Hanley for another big name- move Infante for some prospects or a ML player who has a good potential but hasn't achieved it and move a SP and C.Lee if you must- but don't blow it up because I doubt many of us will stick around long enough to see it back to the glory days. Hanley should go for Upton or no one at all. Infante should be moved to get Boni time at 2B and Ruggiano everyday at bats. If Upton is here, Lomo should be the 4th OF/Backup 1B until next year when he is the starting 1B. Anibal should be moved if he won't resign, if he does resign then he stays. Only players I move Hanley for is Upton who fills a need at OF and has as high a ceiling as H2R, a wash if you will. Only other is D.Wright, but I don't ever see the Mets trading him while they are in contention- Rats. I think Infante is gone- who do we get in return though? I'm thinkin Detroit is his destination.

I'd rather trade Hanley for Upton in a deal if anything, atleast Upton would come off the books the same year as Hanley I believe. Upton is under contract through 2015, Hanley 2013. I thought I read we have H2R until 2014.15 Mil this year, 15.5 next and 16 in 2014 Edit: Link http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/miami-marlins/hanley-ramirez/

they aren't taking on that ridiculous contract. If they do, they might as well trade Stanton too- because I'd need a new team to root for.

I hate Hanley almost as much as anybody; with his lazyiness and lack of ability to hit in with runners in scoring position all of a sudden- however Ramirez is worth more then a bloated contract right? Even with Bell included this is a crazy trade. I'd rather trade Hanley for Upton in a deal if anything, atleast Upton would come off the books the same year as Hanley I believe. Crawford is just--- over the hill.

We're losing games like sh*t. Don't put anyone on base for something so stupid. Hit him when it's time for him to come out the game- 6th or 7th inning. One hit batter and there will be a ejection, no warning.

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Hey Im back lol. I have gotten to know Andrew Heaney's dad the last three years as I am an Oklahoma State fan. Andrew is a great pitcher and an even better kid. I would have loved to have had him back at OSU next year but Im glad he got things worked out. I wish they wouldnt have done him that way though. If a player is slotted to get 2.8 they should have given it too him. I understand it's all a negotiation but next time a big time player leaves Miami for another organization as a Free Agent remember this. If you send the message they arent worth their slotted bonus and then they do well, dont expect to resign them. A lot of clubs signed their top pick for less than slot Yeah, the big issue came when players who were deemed too hard to sign slid down in the draft- they still wanted their money (Pits pick for instance). Not to mention the penalty of losing picks for going over your available draft bonus money and you had to pick and choose who you can afford. The easiest way to do that was to ignore the slots, and pay them what they thought they were worth.

Did anybody else notice Bells Shirt is the old minor league Miami Marlins? Lol. At the 205 Second Mark or so.

As long as we actually have an All Star I'll be happy. It would be a great experience....

Especially since moving Upton would be for salary reasons. Why the hell would they want Hanley? Doesn't have to do with moving salary- they aren't happy with his performance- I suggested Drew and Upton for Hanley- figured they'd jump at a guy they may think may turn it around at SS for them and is club controlled for a while- obviously would just be h2R going to AZ tho. Upton's under club control for them [through the contract he signed with them] through 2015, if I remember right. Hanley only through 2013. But they aren't happy w Upton, and tried to move him already once before- bit exactly a bad deal 1 for 1, but the hope is they go for drew too. It's one of those things where you hope a change of scenery helps all involved- like Hill and K. Johnson last year I think

Especially since moving Upton would be for salary reasons. Why the hell would they want Hanley? Doesn't have to do with moving salary- they aren't happy with his performance- I suggested Drew and Upton for Hanley- figured they'd jump at a guy they may think may turn it around at SS for them and is club controlled for a while- obviously would just be h2R going to AZ tho.

I'd bat buck third- why the heck not for a game. Maybe a different approach at the plate may lead to him contributing. Go on a game by game basis.

So now its his home life that is screwing him up. If you guys guess enough I'm sure you'll find the right reason. Consider the source. Consider your groin punched.

With a pitcher that gets the job done we get at the very least 7 more wins heading into the All-Star break. And now Bell is in Disney Land having a good ole time getting payed tons of money. Bell should pay us for the hell he's put these fans that love this team and are behind this team. If him going to disney fixes him for the stretch run then let him go. At this point if cocaine would help him I wouldn't care. One thing we all can agree on is he needs help

Bell complained a while back that "nobody has his back." Giving him a 15 day vacation for a fake injury is probably the worst "solution" to the problem. And I certainly hope his personal problems aren't being passed off as some kind of excuse for his bad pitching. He hasn't said it- but you can see he's not happy like he was in SD or early in ST, he looks like a miserable Fat F**k out there, and that's uglier to look at then a crying clown. It's not uncommon for players to need to take a mental break/ Dtrain, Greinke, and there was a OF earlier this year too.

It's dangerous to view the board while driving- you other people on the road should watch out.

Also, I think that demoting him to the back of the bullpen probably benefits him by having him the opportunity to figure his stuff out. I'd also think that the "humiliation" of losing the closer's role would sting far less than the pain of blowing the game every other day, which just enrages the fans and probably his teammates even more. What's best for him is to end up on the DL with back fatigue or a hang nail and get a 15 day vacation with a minors rehab stint- just do he can take care of his personal life. Demoting him to te bullpen will hurt his pride- doing it in a sneaky way like the DL will let him keep what little he has left. He can't fix his season here, we aren't a charity softball team- Just hit me too - he lost his SD pitching coach and friend to cancer too- sucks for him right now. "You suck right now so stop pitching for a while and see if that helps." Yeah, makes much more sense than putting him in the back of the pen and letting him work his stuff out, like penguino said. Believe it or not- a upside down personal life can effect you professionally and vice versa, He needs a mental break/ not more practice

Also, I think that demoting him to the back of the bullpen probably benefits him by having him the opportunity to figure his stuff out. I'd also think that the "humiliation" of losing the closer's role would sting far less than the pain of blowing the game every other day, which just enrages the fans and probably his teammates even more. What's best for him is to end up on the DL with back fatigue or a hang nail and get a 15 day vacation with a minors rehab stint- just do he can take care of his personal life. Demoting him to te bullpen will hurt his pride- doing it in a sneaky way like the DL will let him keep what little he has left. He can't fix his season here, we aren't a charity softball team- Just hit me too - he lost his SD pitching coach and friend to cancer too- sucks for him right now. Now you are just being silly. What in his personal life needs to be "taken care of?" How do you have any idea that he thinks it would be best for him to leave the ballclub? And don't you think that telling him to go on vacation for a bogus reason is just as capable of wounding his pride as demoting his bullpen role? This makes little sense even by your standards. He needs to take care of his personal life so he's content and ready to perform when he comes back- And I swear to go when I see you im going to punch you in the dick- because I'm silly like that.

Also, I think that demoting him to the back of the bullpen probably benefits him by having him the opportunity to figure his stuff out. I'd also think that the "humiliation" of losing the closer's role would sting far less than the pain of blowing the game every other day, which just enrages the fans and probably his teammates even more. What's best for him is to end up on the DL with back fatigue or a hang nail and get a 15 day vacation with a minors rehab stint- just do he can take care of his personal life. Demoting him to te bullpen will hurt his pride- doing it in a sneaky way like the DL will let him keep what little he has left. He can't fix his season here, we aren't a charity softball team- Just hit me too - he lost his SD pitching coach and friend to cancer too- sucks for him right now.

Jose Fernandez. The one in Jupiter. Then I concede defeat- well send them a Mike instead, Mike Checkmanek ok?

Deplete the farm except for Yelich- get'r done! And Fernandez. Unless we get Greinke, no. Lol We need to keep Fernandez! D: You can keep A Fernandez, me. Settled?