June 17, 200422 yr The way this guy is pitching, he will command a nice salary as a free agent. Will he be too expensove for the Marlins to keep? As of right now, he will be the top 2 or 3 free agent pitcher out there. My guess is that the team will not be able to afford him. That will be very sad. What a rotation we have going right now.
June 17, 200422 yr The way this guy is pitching, he will command a nice salary as a free agent. Will he be too expensove for the Marlins to keep? As of right now, he will be the top 2 or 3 free agent pitcher out there. My guess is that the team will not be able to afford him. That will be very sad. What a rotation we have going right now. We need to start contract negotiations now.
June 17, 200422 yr Although I agree that his stock keeps going up as he pitches, I think he won't command an amount that our team wouldn't be able to offer. He still has a lot to do to prove himself as a grade A pitcher, so far he's doing a good job at it, though. He's still not recognized around MLB as a better-than-average pitcher. Second, we'll have some funds available next year, as we won't have to pay for Hampton, am I right?
June 17, 200422 yr The way this guy is pitching, he will command a nice salary as a free agent. Will he be too expensove for the Marlins to keep? As of right now, he will be the top 2 or 3 free agent pitcher out there. My guess is that the team will not be able to afford him. That will be very sad. What a rotation we have going right now. We need to start contract negotiations now. i agree if we start negotiations now with pavano it will be much easier to sign him.
June 17, 200422 yr Although I agree that his stock keeps going up as he pitches, I think he won't command an amount that our team wouldn't be able to offer. He still has a lot to do to prove himself as a grade A pitcher, so far he's doing a good job at it, though. He's still not recognized around MLB as a better-than-average pitcher. Second, we'll have some funds available next year, as we won't have to pay for Hampton, am I right? i disgree about his reputation. Many insiders (Leiter was one who called him a stud) saw his rise last year. More are joining the bandwagon (Kruk is one). His rep went way up after playoffs and series. This year it's more solidified. Glad I bought his card last year when it was cheap Fish may have blown it by only giving him a 1 yr deal, but we still have over 3 months to go.
June 17, 200422 yr Although I agree that his stock keeps going up as he pitches, I think he won't command an amount that our team wouldn't be able to offer.? He still has a lot to do to prove himself as a grade A pitcher, so far he's doing a good job at it, though.? He's still not recognized around MLB as a better-than-average pitcher.? Second, we'll have some funds available next year, as we won't have to pay for Hampton, am I right? i disgree about his reputation. Many insiders (Leiter was one who called him a stud) saw his rise last year. More are joining the bandwagon (Kruk is one). His rep went way up after playoffs and series. This year it's more solidified. Glad I bought his card last year when it was cheap Fish may have blown it by only giving him a 1 yr deal, but we still have over 3 months to go. I have 2 Penny cards, 2 Pavano cards, a Beckett propsect card, and a Burnett card. PWNAGE. ... And a Nunez card that susprisingly, grouded into a double play. >_>
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter.
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter. :thumbup excellent point
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter. yeah I remember thinking at the time that we overpaid, but hopefully that move will pay off in the end.
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter. yeah I remember thinking at the time that we overpaid, but hopefully that move will pay off in the end. I think both are earning every penny of their respective contracts
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter. yeah I remember thinking at the time that we overpaid, but hopefully that move will pay off in the end. At the time, you could have argued that we overpaid Pavano but I think it's clear that he's worth every cent. And Penny, who should have been co-MVP with Beckett, has been worth it too. It's gonna be so exciting to see this rotation with everyone healthy.
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter. yeah I remember thinking at the time that we overpaid, but hopefully that move will pay off in the end. I think both are earning every penny of their respective contracts :cheers
June 17, 200422 yr I think that he will want to reamin on the team and he will take less money to stay. And also, we have to keep Pavano pretty much no matter what. So even if he demands a lot of money we have to give it to him. I don't want to mess up our starting rotation especially with all its potential.
June 17, 200422 yr I remember in the offseason reading that Pavano was likely only to receive $3M in arbitration, but the Marlins were generous and gave him an one-year $3.8M deal. The same with Penny. Hopefully the two will remember that this winter. yeah I remember thinking at the time that we overpaid, but hopefully that move will pay off in the end. At the time, you could have argued that we overpaid Pavano but I think it's clear that he's worth every cent. And Penny, who should have been co-MVP with Beckett, has been worth it too. It's gonna be so exciting to see this rotation with everyone healthy. I'm not saying that I didn't think they were worth it at the time, just the fact that they wouldn't have made that much in arbitration, but like I said hopefully that move pays off in the end.
June 17, 200422 yr Positives - Stadium on the horizon - Hampton pay off the books soon - Pudge pay off the books soon - I think Carl likes it here (Loria brought him from the Expos) Cons - Yankees will need pitching and WILL overpay for a young/proven arm like Carl - Pitching is King, most team overpay for pitching
June 17, 200422 yr Second, we'll have some funds available next year, as we won't have to pay for Hampton, am I right? I dont think Hampton is off the books until after next season right and Pudge is off the books after next year too. But that money will help in terms of deffered contracts.
June 17, 200422 yr If Pavano continues to pitch like this, he will probably get a contract at somewhere between $5.5 and $7.5 million a year.
June 17, 200422 yr If Pavano continues to pitch like this, he will probably get a contract at somewhere between $5.5 and $7.5 million a year. Are you sure? Look what Contreras got, and he wasn't proven
June 17, 200422 yr If Pavano continues to pitch like this, he will probably get a contract at somewhere between $5.5 and $7.5 million a year. Are you sure? Look what Contreras got, and he wasn't proven Maddux only got $6 million from the Cubs, and Scott Boras is his agent.
June 17, 200422 yr Cons - Yankees will need pitching and WILL overpay for a young/proven arm like Carl Yes
June 17, 200422 yr Cons - Yankees will need pitching and WILL overpay for a young/proven arm like Carl Yes hopefully he wont go for the money and will learn from Pudge...
June 17, 200422 yr If Pavano continues to pitch like this, he will probably get a contract at somewhere between $5.5 and $7.5 million a year. Are you sure? Look what Contreras got, and he wasn't proven Dude, that was a long time ago. Times have changed.
June 17, 200422 yr At this point Carl will be the top-FA pitcher. He's young, and a very good second or third man of the rotation. He could command $10M a year. I hope the Fish can afford to pay him $32-40M but he'll get more than that elsewhere.
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