July 30, 200421 yr I'm with you dude but I think we're in the minority here 484232[/snapback] Love the trade
July 30, 200421 yr IF we get a good SP, this deal ain't bad at all. If we don't, it's horrible. 484220[/snapback] Yeah, but its still all or nothing. Not much will be left after this year.
July 30, 200421 yr yeah, that's cause me, and the rest of you see the marlins differently. somehow.? it's odd.? :whistle 484186[/snapback] Nah it's because you are a troll. Yeah, but its still all or nothing. Not much will be left after this year. 484243[/snapback] Right, longterm this deal is AWFUL as I said earlier. As for this season, if we don't get that SP it's awful now as well. We better win the championship this season.
July 30, 200421 yr I've said it before, I'll say it again This deal blows Are any of the three even signed after this year?
July 30, 200421 yr I'll say it all friggin day: Beckett better stay healthy. 484233[/snapback] :goodpost If beckett get hurt we waste choi penny and murphy
July 30, 200421 yr I've said it before, I'll say it again This deal blows Are any of the three even signed after this year? 484248[/snapback] JuanE is but penny wasnt and murphys overrated
July 30, 200421 yr I think the trade is decent, but we need to get a starting pitcher still, obviously. Beinfest isn't an idiot, he knows the situation. Trade deadline isn't here yet. Everyone loves Choi and I for one will be sad to see him go but it's definitely an upgrade to our BP, catching, and outfield defense. We address 3 areas that were in need with this trade. Just gotta address the new area...
July 30, 200421 yr I've said it before, I'll say it again This deal blows Are any of the three even signed after this year? 484248[/snapback] JuanE is but penny wasnt and murphys overrated 484255[/snapback] ARE ANY OF THE THREE ACQUIRED SIGNED AFTER THIS YEAR
July 30, 200421 yr If we hadn't gave up Choi I'd say great trade. As it is I think on a scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being it sucks and being it rocks I've give it a 2. I think we've got a good lineup now, but we overpaid. We should have had all the leverage in the deal with them using our pieces to trade with AZ, but we basically gave Choi away. I give the Dodgers an 6 on a scale of 1 to 5, 11 or 12 if they pull of the AZ moves with our guys.
July 30, 200421 yr We were two games below 500 ebfore wwe played the phils we werent going anywhere with what weve had weve been below .500 since our start why not make achange jesus!
July 30, 200421 yr all season we were sayin hey we need to add a bat, we need to get a setup man. What did u people expect, get the leagues best closer an all star catcher for nothing ,for a prospect, the majors just dont work like that you've got to give away some talent im positive on the trade, didnt like it at first but now i do
July 30, 200421 yr this whole mess isnt over. beinfest isnt stupid. we have had the luxury of 5 starters last year and 4 solid ones this year. he wouldnt trade away penny without knowing he could aquire a 5th starter to fill that hole.he has seen how wayne and bump havent worked out so he will not leave us without a 5th starter. should he aquire Lowe which i think he will or another solid starter(ishi) this trade is great.Penny was gone anyway at the end of the year and now we can keep pavs.just think....
July 30, 200421 yr its tuff for people to like trades at first. when you grow into something its hard to give it up. as i feel too, im sorry to see penny go and choi, a fan favorite who seemed to love it here, but this is part of the buisness
July 30, 200421 yr We were two games below 500 ebfore wwe played the phils we werent going anywhere with what weve had weve been below .500 since our start why not make achange jesus! 484310[/snapback] I have a feeling this is the kind of mentality that's leading some people to like the deal. There's no point in making a change for the sake of it. Especially if it's going to make you worse.
July 30, 200421 yr all season we were sayin hey we need to add a bat, we need to get a setup man. What did u people expect, get the leagues best closer an all star catcher for nothing ,for a prospect, the majors just dont work like that you've got to give away some talent im positive on the trade, didnt like it at first but now i do 484334[/snapback] We added a bat, and subtracted a bigger one.
July 30, 200421 yr this whole mess isnt over. beinfest isnt stupid. we have had the luxury of 5 starters last year and 4 solid ones this year. he wouldnt trade away penny without knowing he could aquire a 5th starter to fill that hole.he has seen how wayne and bump havent worked out so he will not leave us without a 5th starter. should he aquire Lowe which i think he will or another solid starter(ishi) this trade is great.Penny was gone anyway at the end of the year and now we can keep pavs.just think.... 484357[/snapback] thank you *applauses*
July 30, 200421 yr this whole mess isnt over. beinfest isnt stupid. we have had the luxury of 5 starters last year and 4 solid ones this year. he wouldnt trade away penny without knowing he could aquire a 5th starter to fill that hole.he has seen how wayne and bump havent worked out so he will not leave us without a 5th starter. should he aquire Lowe which i think he will or another solid starter(ishi) this trade is great.Penny was gone anyway at the end of the year and now we can keep pavs.just think.... 484357[/snapback] Reality check, Pavano is gone after this year. Bank on it. Freddy Garcia just got $8mil a year. The highest paid player on our team makes $8mil a year. Is Pavano the best player on the team? Lo Duca won't be here next year, he's expected to get $8mil in arbitration. Everyone needs to enjoy this year because whats happening is we're going down in a blaze of glory this year in hopes of securing a stadium deal. Then we'll go into the dark ages until it gets built. And thats the *optimistic* scenerio. If we don't get the stadium deal, Lowell opts out of his contract and we become the Expos.
July 30, 200421 yr all season we were sayin hey we need to add a bat,? we need to get a setup man. What did u people expect, get the leagues best closer an? all star catcher for nothing ,for a prospect, the majors just dont work like that you've got to give away some talent im positive on the trade, didnt like it at first but now i do 484334[/snapback] We added a bat, and subtracted a bigger one. 484373[/snapback] correction; we added 2 bats
July 30, 200421 yr all season we were sayin hey we need to add a bat,? we need to get a setup man. What did u people expect, get the leagues best closer an? all star catcher for nothing ,for a prospect, the majors just dont work like that you've got to give away some talent im positive on the trade, didnt like it at first but now i do 484334[/snapback] We added a bat, and subtracted a bigger one. 484373[/snapback] correction; we added 2 bats 484396[/snapback] Encarnacion can take his .235 BA and .289 OBP bat somewhere else.
July 30, 200421 yr I love the trade! I think I'm in the 20% of Marlin fans who love it. 484238[/snapback] Why do you like this deal? We get worse now and for the future. You do not trade starting pitching unless you are overwhelmed with what you get in return. We should have just dumped Penny for prospects. At least we would have gotten more.
July 30, 200421 yr Umm this move basically guarentess pavano will be resigned. the FO isnt stupid to let go the only thing that makes this team good which is SP.
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