July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him?
July 17, 200521 yr I'm sorry I can't take anything you say seriously since you flip flop more then a politician.... ps: If you want to be frustrated after tonight, Carlos is the guy who needs to get it more then anyone else and you neglect to mention him. 859150[/snapback] It is about the whole season. Something will happen after tonight trust me....McKeon fired, big trade, something....watch. What have I flop flopped on? Go follow the Phils since you anger resembles Admin Bowa. 859171[/snapback] What sense does that make.....Go follow the Phillies since i anger like Admin Bowa???? Huh????? How many times were you hit in the head as a child?
July 17, 200521 yr I'm sorry I can't take anything you say seriously since you flip flop more then a politician.... ps: If you want to be frustrated after tonight, Carlos is the guy who needs to get it more then anyone else and you neglect to mention him. 859150[/snapback] It is about the whole season. Something will happen after tonight trust me....McKeon fired, big trade, something....watch. What have I flop flopped on? Go follow the Phils since you anger resembles Admin Bowa. 859171[/snapback] dude, you have more mood swings that a woman with PMS 859177[/snapback] Did you come up with that all by yourself? Bro, Ive followed baseball a long time and this season is coming to an end. You'll see with a huge move coming soon. 859182[/snapback] HHAAAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Lol. If you guys want to starting fighting, than PM each other, doesn't belong here. WildMarlin, I think everyone is kinda jumping on ya because we see this alot where we lose and people come on here and say we are complete sellers, and this and that. I guess your timing was off because your post came on right after the Phillies had that run in the 7th. The fact is we HAVE to trade AJ, and probably either Lowell or Juan. Trading those players doesn't make us "Sellers." It is something we have to do to make the present and future better. All clubs have to do this once in a while. Besides with how this season has gone, maybe the less talent we have, the more better we will play???!!! Weird, yes, but maybe with the team having less talent they will fight more?? Who knows.
July 17, 200521 yr Author I'm sorry I can't take anything you say seriously since you flip flop more then a politician.... ps: If you want to be frustrated after tonight, Carlos is the guy who needs to get it more then anyone else and you neglect to mention him. 859150[/snapback] It is about the whole season. Something will happen after tonight trust me....McKeon fired, big trade, something....watch. What have I flop flopped on? Go follow the Phils since you anger resembles Admin Bowa. 859171[/snapback] dude, you have more mood swings that a woman with PMS 859177[/snapback] Did you come up with that all by yourself? Bro, Ive followed baseball a long time and this season is coming to an end. You'll see with a huge move coming soon. 859182[/snapback] HHAAAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Lol. If you guys want to starting fighting, than PM each other, doesn't belong here. WildMarlin, I think everyone is kinda jumping on ya because we see this alot where we lose and people come on here and say we are complete sellers, and this and that. I guess your timing was off because your post came on right after the Phillies had that run in the 7th. The fact is we HAVE to trade AJ, and probably either Lowell or Juan. Trading those players doesn't make us "Sellers." It is something we have to do to make the present and future better. All clubs have to do this once in a while. Besides with how this season has gone, maybe the less talent we have, the more better we will play???!!! Weird, yes, but maybe with the team having less talent they will fight more?? Who knows. 859207[/snapback] I know that we have to trade them. I guess what I mean is that our season is almost over. This team doesnt have it. NO CHEMISTRY. Is is McKeon? Is it Pierre and Lowell? Who knows but this team IS NOT a playoff team. LAST PLACE IN HOMERS.
July 17, 200521 yr Author Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later. 859216[/snapback] Hes better than that........
July 17, 200521 yr Author Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later. 859216[/snapback] Hes better than that........ 859221[/snapback] Moe benefits from playing in a pitchers park with a good D behind him. He is coming back down to earth and will start being shelled again. He doesnt have any trade value.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] overreact much? The guy was one of the best starters in baseball over the first half. Stop it already. Go take a nap or something. I wonder sometimes if there are any players on this team that you actually root for.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later. 859216[/snapback] Wow. First off, Al Leiter got a player to be named later, and Brian Moehler has pitched just a little bit better than Al Leiter this season. Second, Moehler might give up a fair amount of hits (114 in 105 innings), but he doesn't walk people, so the amount of baserunners he allows is still down. And Moehler doesn't give up alot of home runs either, so it's not like he's getting hit real hard (.416 SLG against). He still has good numbers and overall has pitched like a solid #4 starter this year, and is making 400k. A guy who can ably step in as a #4-5 starter or a swingman out of the pen would command a little bit more than a player to be named later.
July 17, 200521 yr Author Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] overreact much? The guy was one of the best starters in baseball over the first half. Stop it already. Go take a nap or something. I wonder sometimes if there are any players on this team that you actually root for. 859232[/snapback] 1100 hits allowed in 971 IP over his career. He had 1 very good year.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] overreact much? The guy was one of the best starters in baseball over the first half. Stop it already. Go take a nap or something. I wonder sometimes if there are any players on this team that you actually root for. 859232[/snapback] 1100 hits allowed in 971 IP over his career. He had 1 very good year. 859239[/snapback] Pitching is at a premium right now, ask the Yankees.
July 17, 200521 yr Author Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later. 859216[/snapback] Wow. First off, Al Leiter got a player to be named later, and Brian Moehler has pitched just a little bit better than Al Leiter this season. Second, Moehler might give up a fair amount of hits (114 in 105 innings), but he doesn't walk people, so the amount of baserunners he allows is still down. And Moehler doesn't give up alot of home runs either, so it's not like he's getting hit real hard (.416 SLG against). He still has good numbers and overall has pitched like a solid #4 starter this year, and is making 400k. A guy who can ably step in as a #4-5 starter or a swingman out of the pen would command a little bit more than a player to be named later. 859238[/snapback] HAHA Al Leiter is a hall of famer compared to Brian Moehler. Leiter made 8 mil this year because of HIS PAST. Great pitcher- used to be. Moehler is a freakin' ST invitee...lol
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later. 859216[/snapback] Wow. First off, Al Leiter got a player to be named later, and Brian Moehler has pitched just a little bit better than Al Leiter this season. Second, Moehler might give up a fair amount of hits (114 in 105 innings), but he doesn't walk people, so the amount of baserunners he allows is still down. And Moehler doesn't give up alot of home runs either, so it's not like he's getting hit real hard (.416 SLG against). He still has good numbers and overall has pitched like a solid #4 starter this year, and is making 400k. A guy who can ably step in as a #4-5 starter or a swingman out of the pen would command a little bit more than a player to be named later. 859238[/snapback] HAHA Al Leiter is a hall of famer compared to Brian Moehler. Leiter made 8 mil this year because of HIS PAST. Great pitcher- used to be. Moehler is a freakin' ST invitee...lol 859245[/snapback] Al Leiter has had a better CAREER than Moehler. Moehler is having a much better year (and foreseeable future) than Leiter. Therefore, Moehler would command more in a trade THIS YEAR than Al Leiter.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] overreact much? The guy was one of the best starters in baseball over the first half. Stop it already. Go take a nap or something. I wonder sometimes if there are any players on this team that you actually root for. 859232[/snapback] 1100 hits allowed in 971 IP over his career. He had 1 very good year. 859239[/snapback] You're saying no one wants Moehler right now, yet you just admitted he's having a very good season. Yeah, who would want a pitcher for a stretch run who's having his best year ever? Really this is hurting my head.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] overreact much? The guy was one of the best starters in baseball over the first half. Stop it already. Go take a nap or something. I wonder sometimes if there are any players on this team that you actually root for. 859232[/snapback] 1100 hits allowed in 971 IP over his career. He had 1 very good year. 859239[/snapback] You're saying no one wants Moehler right now, yet you just admitted he's having a very good season. Yeah, who would want a pitcher for a stretch run who's having his best year ever? Really this is hurting my head. 859282[/snapback] HC, you are out of your league... WildMarlinMan has been around baseball a long time.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] I would say if we made Brian Moehler available out there right now, there would be a line of GMs around the block looking to acquire him and his $400,000 salary (about $180,000 left for the season).
July 17, 200521 yr This is getting out of hand. Buyers/Sellers.....Lets us not forget a very talented Huston Astros team was in OUR same position last year. They hovered around .500 the whole first half, and instead of selling off what was a world series contending team they stuck together and made a run all the way to game 7 of the NLCS. Granted they made a change at manager that got them jump started. I don't know if that what we need, just an idea. But to call us sellers at this point is just silly. This team has the talent, especially the pitching to make some serious noise in the second half.
July 17, 200521 yr This is getting out of hand. Buyers/Sellers.....Lets us not forget a very talented Huston Astros team was in OUR same position last year. They hovered around .500 the whole first half, and instead of selling off what was a world series contending team they stuck together and made a run all the way to game 7 of the NLCS. Granted they made a change at manager that got them jump started. I don't know if that what we need, just an idea. But to call us sellers at this point is just silly. This team has the talent, especially the pitching to make some serious noise in the second half. 859352[/snapback] they also acquired a major bat
July 17, 200521 yr This is getting out of hand. Buyers/Sellers.....Lets us not forget a very talented Huston Astros team was in OUR same position last year. They hovered around .500 the whole first half, and instead of selling off what was a world series contending team they stuck together and made a run all the way to game 7 of the NLCS. Granted they made a change at manager that got them jump started. I don't know if that what we need, just an idea. But to call us sellers at this point is just silly. This team has the talent, especially the pitching to make some serious noise in the second half. 859352[/snapback] they also acquired a major bat 859362[/snapback] There is no reason we cannot acquire a bat as well if need be.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] i bet the yankees would i mean they are desperate enough to want al leiter
July 17, 200521 yr look you are buyers till the few days of July if you are more then 5 games out of the wild card then you are sellers. But, with the nats showing they are mortal and us not too far behind we arent sellers yet. Do I think we should shake stuff up? Yes. Do I trust Beinfest to make the right moves? Yes. Are we sellers with half the season left? No. A good team on 10 game road trip will go 6 wins and 4 losses folks. Road trips are hard because they are supposed to be. Call up the young folks, well you get great preformances like Olsen has given us 3 times before this. But, sometimes you get what he gave us tonight too. It happens, Grow up and live with it. IF you believe we are sellers then dont whine and complain for losses then anyways. Dont change your mind tomorrow. If we are buyers then keep believing it will turn around soon. I still do.
July 17, 200521 yr look you are buyers till the few days of July if you are more then 5 games out of the wild card then you are sellers. But, with the nats showing they are mortal and us not too far behind we arent sellers yet. Do I think we should shake stuff up? Yes. Do I trust Beinfest to make the right moves? Yes. Are we sellers with half the season left? No. A good team on 10 game road trip will go 6 wins and 4 losses folks. Road trips are hard because they are supposed to be. Call up the young folks, well you get great preformances like Olsen has given us 3 times before this. But, sometimes you get what he gave us tonight too. It happens, Grow up and live with it. IF you believe we are sellers then dont whine and complain for losses then anyways. Dont change your mind tomorrow. If we are buyers then keep believing it will turn around soon. I still do. 859471[/snapback] :nono shoo! shoo! We're not buying your level-headed reasoning here pal! Go sell it someplace else buddy.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] hmmm a cheap starter with solid numbers? yea, who would want him? 859201[/snapback] Look at the hits he allows? Like 110 in 100 IP??? As a scout he would get only net a player to be named later. 859216[/snapback] You know, I've never had a problem with you and have even ignored your dumbass comments about Drew to me, but this is too much. You don't think we could get several good prospects for Moehler right now if we offered him up? You're clueless about baseball if you really believe that. Since you're young, I'll chalk this thread up to drunken immaturity. I've been there when I was in undergrad.
July 17, 200521 yr Who would want Brian Moehler? 859197[/snapback] overreact much? The guy was one of the best starters in baseball over the first half. Stop it already. Go take a nap or something. I wonder sometimes if there are any players on this team that you actually root for. 859232[/snapback] 1100 hits allowed in 971 IP over his career. He had 1 very good year. 859239[/snapback] So pitchers are valued on how many hits they allow? Nice logic -- idiot. Teams would be lining up by the dozens to deal for a solid, inexpensive starter like Moehler. His lack of a track record would prevent us from acquiring a blue-chip type of prospect, but theres no reason why we couldnt get a reasonable return for the guy. That being said, I'd prefer to just keep him and see if we can bring him back next year as a cheap, #5 pitcher.
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