August 18, 200521 yr Now, "Maybe we ought to keep juggling those guys around," McKeon said after the game. "[Cabrera] will probably play [today]. Where? I don't know. I haven't thought about it yet. I have to check my Ouija board and see what that says. "I've thought of a lot of options and I have to weigh it all, decide which way we're going to go. But I'd like to keep Conine in the lineup fairly regular, don't let him get too stale." - Sun Sentinel Hmmm...So Jack has seen the light. Conine, Treanor, Aguila, Easley can all contribute. I betcha Willingham and Dillon could have done so too. So many of us have been saying this all season while Jack stayed with his stale, light-hitting lineup just about every day. Look at the Braves, a team that uses the entire organization to win games. We don't even use the entire 25 man roster. Good morning Jack..now be just as willing to bench Lowell or Pierre for a game or two and don't make Conine's time be only at the expense of Encarnacion.
August 18, 200521 yr Here, Here! I've been pleading this for months. We'll see... but Jack's reported statements indicate a grasp of reality, albeit belated. I liked your "what if" reference to Willingham and Dillon. Treanor and Aguila and Conine would not have gotten a chance if Jack wasn't forced by LoDuca and Enc's and Delgado's injuries. (not to mention Easley being ready to cover for Luis.) Lesson learned by Jack? We'll see.
August 18, 200521 yr I just read this in the paper and was about to post it but Stag5, you beat me to it. My jaw dropped when I read it, wondering out loud if Miggy was about to be moved into the infield for at least a few games. Lowell has been in a funk lately, batting about .150 over the last week, and this is the time of the year where I wouldn't be surprised to see Jack sit him for awhile in favor of Cabrera. On the otherhand, the writer doesn't let us in on what body language or facial expression Jack employed. This could just be Jack being facetious, in effect saying, "of course Miggy will be out there you fools, I just gave him a night off". And Delgado, home run or not, is clearly not 100%, anyone in the stadium last night could see that, and Jack could be signaling Niner might be getting more playing time at first, not the Lowell to the bench, Miggy to third, Conine to left scenario some would envision.
August 18, 200521 yr I heard Jack on with Joe Rose this morning. He indicated that Conine would definately be in the starting lineup again tonight. Jack mentioned that he wanted to utilize Conine as a means to get other regulars an off day here or there in order to stay fresh for the stretch run...doesn't want Niner's hot bat out of the lineup. I would guess he would be in for Enc or Delgado as he mentioned some of the regulars as having been banged up recently. :hat
August 18, 200521 yr Good about time Steve gets some respect and more importantly the playing time he deserves.
August 18, 200521 yr A little off topic... Can somebody PLEASE explain this teams performance for me??? What in the hell man, 6 runs in two innings, then 18 batters set down in a row. We score 1 run, or no runs, then we score 10 runs, 6 runs, and no runs again. I ask again, what the hell? These guys are an odds makers worst nightmare. :banghead
August 18, 200521 yr A little off topic... Can somebody PLEASE explain this teams performance for me??? What in the hell man, 6 runs in two innings, then 18 batters set down in a row. We score 1 run, or no runs, then we score 10 runs, 6 runs, and no runs again. I ask again, what the hell? These guys are an odds makers worst nightmare. :banghead 906144[/snapback] Winning and whining. That post pretty much sums up the general state of this site.
August 18, 200521 yr A little off topic... Can somebody PLEASE explain this teams performance for me??? What in the hell man, 6 runs in two innings, then 18 batters set down in a row. We score 1 run, or no runs, then we score 10 runs, 6 runs, and no runs again. I ask again, what the hell? These guys are an odds makers worst nightmare. :banghead 906144[/snapback] They won the game on a 6-0 shutout. The padres pitchers settled in. Who cares man we won on a great pitching and hitting performance. Way to thread jack.
August 18, 200521 yr I heard Jack on with Joe Rose this morning. He indicated that Conine would definately be in the starting lineup again tonight. Jack mentioned that he wanted to utilize Conine as a means to get other regulars an off day here or there in order to stay fresh for the stretch run...doesn't want Niner's hot bat out of the lineup. I would guess he would be in for Enc or Delgado as he mentioned some of the regulars as having been banged up recently. :hat 906123[/snapback] I like that idea a lot...especially given that some of these injuries seem like they could be somewhat persistent, some extra rest definitely wouldn't hurt.
August 18, 200521 yr A little off topic... Can somebody PLEASE explain this teams performance for me??? What in the hell man, 6 runs in two innings, then 18 batters set down in a row. We score 1 run, or no runs, then we score 10 runs, 6 runs, and no runs again. I ask again, what the hell? These guys are an odds makers worst nightmare. :banghead 906144[/snapback] The Marlins beat the Yankees in Game 1 of the WS with 7 singles... OMG WHERE WERE THE EXTRA BASE HITS!?!?! FIRE JACK/ROBINSON/BEINFEST!!!
August 18, 200521 yr Ah, a single game in an entirely different period of the season. Says a lot about how often our team can count on consistent no-punch offense and the necessary strong pitching and defense over the course of a full season.
August 18, 200521 yr Ah, a single game in an entirely different period of the season. Says a lot about how often our team can count on consistent no-punch offense and the necessary strong pitching and defense over the course of a full season. 906359[/snapback] It was a joke and not to be taken as a serious counter-point. The lack of slugging on this team gives me indigestion just like anyone else on here. I just take exception to people harping on the negatives in a win and vice-versa.
August 18, 200521 yr Author Starting Lineups No. Florida 1 Juan Pierre, CF 2 Damion Easley, 2B 3 Miguel Cabrera, LF 4 Carlos Delgado, 1B 5 Juan Encarnacion, RF 6 Mike Lowell, 3B 7 Alex Gonzalez, SS 8 Matt Treanor, C 9 Josh Beckett, P Oh well..Jack just couldn't do it. At least he showed all the fans with his quotes that he realizes these guys need to play. He just does not have it in him to bench certain players.
August 18, 200521 yr It may not be all together in Jack's hands. The FO may very well want Lowell to keep playing for reasons known only to them.
August 18, 200521 yr Author It may not be all together in Jack's hands. The FO may very well want Lowell to keep playing for reasons known only to them. 906421[/snapback] If you don't trade AJ in the name of winning you don't then play someone you'd rather bench in the name of possible trades. Hard to buy that one.
August 18, 200521 yr I'm just guessing, and unlike some here, I'm willing to admit that. The Sun-Sentinel reported this morning that Jack wanted Conine in the lineup with some regularity, he's not there tonight. Malman posted that Jack said on Joe Rose's show Niner would be in the lineup tonight and Malman has been a pretty straight-shooter here, so you put two and two together, and the answer I come up with is what I posted above. Can I be wrong? Absolutely.
August 18, 200521 yr It may not be all together in Jack's hands. The FO may very well want Lowell to keep playing for reasons known only to them. 906421[/snapback] If you don't trade AJ in the name of winning you don't then play someone you'd rather bench in the name of possible trades. Hard to buy that one. 906429[/snapback] Welcome to the world of professional baseball. Bench players for lack of hustle and so forth but dont doubt the obvious. Lowell is playing for the following reasons: a. Paid a lot of money not to sit the bench b. Need his defense (Lowell DF > Conine's OF) c. Could get lucky and get a few hits. :mischief2 d. Fan/Organizational favorite 2003 - how about this with Cabrera struggling as well, why put him into a position (3B) that he is not comfortable with and thus both hitting and defense could suffer. The only option for Conine is either 1B (not with Peavy pitching) or Encarcion.
August 18, 200521 yr Author I'm just guessing, and unlike some here, I'm willing to admit that. The Sun-Sentinel reported this morning that Jack wanted Conine in the lineup with some regularity, he's not there tonight. Malman posted that Jack said on Joe Rose's show Niner would be in the lineup tonight and Malman has been a pretty straight-shooter here, so you put two and two together, and the answer I come up with is what I posted above. Can I be wrong? Absolutely. 906455[/snapback] Marlins, I wasn't getting on you....sorry if you got that impression. But my only choice other than agreeing with you was disagreeing and I to gave my reason why.
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