Interesting.

 

When AJ had won 7 in a row...I never saw anyone calling out his lack of heart and how poor of a pitcher he was. When it comes down to it, those 7 wins are as critical now as they were then.

 

The guy has just become the personal whiiping boy of the Marlin fan base because he is outspoken and will go and get his money in the off-season lke anyother person in his situation will do.

 

I am sure he will enjoy moving on to a franchise where he can be appreciated and not berated after everything he does.

 

 

 

 

LMAO

Damn, once again, great insight from you 2003.

 

Please write something of substance in the future all knowing one.

Interesting.

 

When AJ had won 7 in a row...I never saw anyone calling out his lack of heart and how poor of a pitcher he was. When it comes down to it, those 7 wins are as critical now as they were then.

 

The guy has just become the personal whiiping boy of the Marlin fan base because he is outspoken and will go and get his money in the off-season lke anyother person in his situation will do.

 

I am sure he will enjoy moving on to a franchise where he can be appreciated and not berated after everything he does.

 

 

 

 

Get off your high horse. I personally never had a problem with AJ's inconsistencies till he started running his mouth blaming all his problems on everyone and everything but himself. I remember even back in 2003 he blamed management for his injury and did not want to come back and play here then. Constant whining and blaming of others is not being outspoken. And you make it sound like this is just marlins fans who do this, like I said if a player on your team constantly bashed your organization and cried and moaned constantly, I dont think he would be your favorite player either.

Interesting.

 

When AJ had won 7 in a row...I never saw anyone calling out his lack of heart and how poor of a pitcher he was. When it comes down to it, those 7 wins are as critical now as they were then.

 

The guy has just become the personal whiiping boy of the Marlin fan base because he is outspoken and will go and get his money in the off-season lke anyother person in his situation will do.

 

I am sure he will enjoy moving on to a franchise where he can be appreciated and not berated after everything he does.

 

 

The seven game winning streak was great and the 6 game choke job down the middle of the playoff chase was equally as impressive The games have more pressure in september with your playoff life on the line than pitching in June against the D-Rays. AJ with the pressure on folded completely ! As far as his outspokeness perhaps if it came from someone who had produced on the field was a part of the championship team and wasnt a whiney b?tch who lost every important game in september he pitched in than maybe I would take what he says more seriously. As to appreciated I appreciate him for the career sub 500 pitcher that he is somehow I hope we can replace his big game collapses and career high 12 wins. Other than that I agree with you some team will overpay and he will get his money

Interesting.

 

When AJ had won 7 in a row...I never saw anyone calling out his lack of heart and how poor of a pitcher he was. When it comes down to it, those 7 wins are as critical now as they were then.

 

The guy has just become the personal whiiping boy of the Marlin fan base because he is outspoken and will go and get his money in the off-season lke anyother person in his situation will do.

 

I am sure he will enjoy moving on to a franchise where he can be appreciated and not berated after everything he does.

 

 

Just to illustrate AJ's attitude keep in mind that when he went through the critical stretch of horrendous starts he refused to speak to the press and raced out of the clubhouse. That's cowardly. When he does speak up it's to deflect blame. This is from someone who was a big AJ supporter from day 1. No one was booing him at the ballpark ever that I can recall so he has hardly been the "personal whipping boy."

Let AJ and his HUMONGOUS ego go! Who Cares.

 

Remember the Marlins won the World Series in 2003 ( the one year AJ DIDnt pitch).

 

AJ, Get over yourself I'm sure tomorrow you'll blame the clubhouse attendant for the Marlins woes because the toilet paper wasnt soft enough.

and the funny thing is AJ is having a CAREER YEAR...

I think he's goin to Toronto and if he does....he instantly moves them to 2nd in the division potentially.

 

 

More like, his ERA jumps 10 fold because he has to pitch against the Yanks and Sox offense almost every friggen outing.

 

Interesting.

 

When AJ had won 7 in a row...I never saw anyone calling out his lack of heart and how poor of a pitcher he was. When it comes down to it, those 7 wins are as critical now as they were then.

 

The guy has just become the personal whiiping boy of the Marlin fan base because he is outspoken and will go and get his money in the off-season lke anyother person in his situation will do.

 

I am sure he will enjoy moving on to a franchise where he can be appreciated and not berated after everything he does.

 

 

Actually, most of us have hated AJ since last season when he started insulting the fans everytime he opened his damn mouth to the press. And when he did pitch that stretch of 7 wins in a row, people were saying he's pitching himself out of our price range, bye bye AJ, etc. etc. etc.

 

You just see all of us sitting here hating on AJ, but you don't know the history behind all of this negativity and I can tell you right now, his stretch of losing 9 or whatever in a row has very little to do with it. Lowell, JP, and others on this team have been having bad seasons far worse than AJ, but no one is bashing them.

I got stats.

 

I didn't know where to find the data, so I just cut and paste the schedule/result tables on espn.com (they're from 2002 onwards) and sorted them a few times in excel.

 

Here's what I got:

 

AJ is 18-8 at home since 2002

 

When attendance is over 20k, he's 5-3.

When attendance is 15k-20k, he's 4-2.

When attendance is under 15k, he's 9-3.

 

Attendance was an average of 16,300 in his wins and 16,804 in his losses.

 

And yeah, the sample size is crap, but I didn't notice him having any trouble pitching in an empty stadium.

I got stats.

 

I didn't know where to find the data, so I just cut and paste the schedule/result tables on espn.com (they're from 2002 onwards) and sorted them a few times in excel.

 

Here's what I got:

 

AJ is 18-8 at home since 2002

 

When attendance is over 20k, he's 5-3.

When attendance is 15k-20k, he's 4-2.

When attendance is under 15k, he's 9-3.

 

Attendance was an average of 16,300 in his wins and 16,804 in his losses.

 

And yeah, the sample size is crap, but I didn't notice him having any trouble pitching in an empty stadium.

 

Thank you for those Shaq, and posting something worthwhile and interesting instead of a LMAO response.

 

But again, my point was misconstrued.

 

I said I think that AJ could benefit from playing for a consistent fan base that fills the seats. Crowd size and fan support is obviously something that is important to hm and something he wants. I never inferred that he would struggle in empty parks...

AJ is just like Kerry Wood, million dollar arm and a ten cent brain.

 

With that said, I have always said Wood could turn into a 20 game winner if he ever got out of Wrigley, and although The Pro is a great park for pitchers, a change of scenery would help Burnett IMO.

AJ is just like Kerry Wood, million dollar arm and a ten cent brain.

 

With that said, I have always said Wood could turn into a 20 game winner if he ever got out of Wrigley, and although The Pro is a great park for pitchers, a change of scenery would help Burnett IMO.

 

I think Wood just needs to stay healthy.

I think AJ would benefit from showing a little class. Clearly something he hasn't learned from Dontrelle. He'll get a big paycheck but there are some things money can't buy.

AJ is just like Kerry Wood, million dollar arm and a ten cent brain.

 

With that said, I have always said Wood could turn into a 20 game winner if he ever got out of Wrigley, and although The Pro is a great park for pitchers, a change of scenery would help Burnett IMO.

 

I think Wood just needs to stay healthy.

 

Wood has had more injury problems, but even when he does pitch, he's madly inconsistent, like Burnett, and gets by on raw stuff rather than pitching.

 

Plus, both have had TJ surgery and multiple injuries in the past (moreso for Wood, who's hurt again now) but I thought it was a fair comparison.

My favorite line of all this is...``It's depressing around here,'' he said. ``There's nothing positive around here. There's nothing positive on the staff now."

 

Could it be he's jealous of Dontrelle? He can't possibly not notice all the notireity DW is getting FOR SUCCEEDING.

 

I suspect he know's he's cost himself several million dollars (which is not to say he won't get a big paycheck), perhaps $4-5 million over the life of his new contract with his performance over the last 8-10 games. He desperately needs to find a fallguy for his failures.

 

Personally, I'd like to see Jack either fine him or better yet bench him for the rest of the season, or even just send him home (boy that would really frost his selfish, egocentric little ass wouldn't???? hehe). He's done everything he can do to insult the fans, the organization and let his teammates down for a month and half, time for payback.

 

I'll be going to all our remaining games and if he does pitch (which I hope he doesn't), and as uncharacteristic as it is for me to do it, I intend to boo him from the moment he steps on the playing field.

 

 

Some may disagree, but enough is enough.

 

from what I have heard, he is referring to the coaching staff, not the pitching staff

My favorite line of all this is...``It's depressing around here,'' he said. ``There's nothing positive around here. There's nothing positive on the staff now."

 

Could it be he's jealous of Dontrelle? He can't possibly not notice all the notireity DW is getting FOR SUCCEEDING.

 

I suspect he know's he's cost himself several million dollars (which is not to say he won't get a big paycheck), perhaps $4-5 million over the life of his new contract with his performance over the last 8-10 games. He desperately needs to find a fallguy for his failures.

 

Personally, I'd like to see Jack either fine him or better yet bench him for the rest of the season, or even just send him home (boy that would really frost his selfish, egocentric little ass wouldn't???? hehe). He's done everything he can do to insult the fans, the organization and let his teammates down for a month and half, time for payback.

 

I'll be going to all our remaining games and if he does pitch (which I hope he doesn't), and as uncharacteristic as it is for me to do it, I intend to boo him from the moment he steps on the playing field.

 

 

Some may disagree, but enough is enough.

 

from what I have heard, he is referring to the coaching staff, not the pitching staff

 

Good point. And it would be consistent with his bashing of management and basically defending the players.

``It's depressing around here,'' he said. ``There's nothing positive around here. There's nothing positive on the staff now.

I think this statement was misunderstood. I took it as having a problem with the coaching staff, not the pitching staff.

 

Anyways, I guess I'm in the minority when I say I'll miss AJ. More than anyone else, AJ made me truly love the poetry side of pitching and when he was on baseball was like a game of colors as opposed to a sport. It'll be sad to watch him suit up for anyone else, though I do hope he goes to either the Red Sox or Angels so I don't see myself having a problem with watching him pitch.

 

All in all, yeah he's had his troubles with the media. A lot of it I haven't agreed with. But I don't agree with the other side, either. And I personally believe the other side of the equation has done a lot more to hurt the team's chances for success this year than the easy target. I guess I just prefer to deal with the actual problem at hand and not with a rogue pitcher who has performed better than 80% of his counterparts if not more. Call me crazy if you want.

 

AJ will perform if he goes to the right place. He will win a Cy Young sometime in the next 5 years. Too bad it isn't in teal.

Call me crazy if you want.

 

 

You're crazy.

:lol

 

JK

 

[AJ will perform if he goes to the right place. He will win a Cy Young sometime in the next 5 years. Too bad it isn't in teal.

 

 

He'll win a Cy Young if he improves his attitude. He doesn't like to listen to coaches at all. During his bad stretch in August and September he had a mechanical problem that he didn't fix until recently. He's pitched better since making that adjustment. Why did it take like 5-6 starts for him to do that? Because he doesn't like to listen to coaches. Dontrelle, on the other hand, got rocked three straight starts and he and Wiley figured out that his arm wasn't high enough, leaving his pitches out over the plate more often instead of keeping them down. He made the adjustments and we see how that worked out. It took D-Train three starts and he listened. AJ didn't do the same thing and it cost him. He doesn't know everything there is to know about pitching... he should get an attitude lesson from D-Train and learn from it.

You really must have something against AJ to say that the comment is directed at the pitching staff.

 

:confused

You really must have something against AJ to say that the comment is directed at the pitching staff.

 

:confused

 

 

That's true. I just don't like the guy at all. He's an arrogant, whining biatch with a terrible attitude.

I find AJ depressing. He may thrive somewhere else, who knows. I can't get mad at him for leaving, cause he's burnt so many bridges at this point, that really he should leave.

 

I still point to AJ as the single greatest modern baseball example of the Ewing Theory. I'm glad he's headed out the door.

I find AJ depressing. He may thrive somewhere else, who knows. I can't get mad at him for leaving, cause he's burnt so many bridges at this point, that really he should leave.

 

I still point to AJ as the single greatest modern baseball example of the Ewing Theory. I'm glad he's headed out the door.

 

 

What's the Ewing Theory?

The Ewing Theory is one of the Sports Guy's greatest contributions to the sporting world.

 

From his Ewing Theory 101 Article:

 

What's the Ewing Theory? Where did it come from?

The theory was created in the mid-'90s by Dave Cirilli, a friend of mine who was convinced that Patrick Ewing's teams (both at Georgetown and with New York) inexplicably played better when Ewing was either injured or missing extended stretches because of foul trouble.

 

Curious to see if this phenomenon applied to other stars/teams, Dave noticed people were pencilling in the '94-'95 UConn Huskies for a .500 season because "superstar" Donyell Marshall had departed for the NBA. Dave knew better; a lifelong UConn fan, he thought the Huskies relied too much on Marshall the previous season and could survive without him. Like Ali predicting the first Liston knockout, Dave told friends the Huskies would thrive in Marshall's absence -- and that's exactly what happened. By midseason, UConn was ranked No. 1 in the country for the first time in school history; the Ewing Theory had been hatched.

 

Dave introduced me to the Ewing Theory three years ago, and we've been tinkering with it like Voltaire and Thoreau ever since. Eventually, we decided that two crucial elements needed to be in place for any situation to qualify for "Ewing" status:

 

A star athlete receives an inordinate amount of media attention and fan interest, and yet his teams never win anything substantial with him (other than maybe some early-round playoff series).

 

That same athlete leaves his team (either by injury, trade, graduation, free agency or retirement) -- and both the media and fans immediately write off the team for the following season.

 

When those elements collide, you have the Ewing Theory.

 

 

The Marlins underachieved for about 2 years while AJ was on the team, up until about May 2003, when he went down, at which point the team went on the greatest run in franchise history. Then he came back, and we've been underachieving ever since.

Ha!!! Yeah, AJ is a great example of that. I hope this turns out to be true next season.

welcome to last year

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

After the way he played this season, which was very poorly when we needed a good start from him, there's no way I want him back. He can go and take $10 million a season from some team like the Stankees for all I care.

 

His performance during the last 6-7 starts showed to me that he didn't want to be here at all.