Posted October 6, 200519 yr I'm a big Lowell fan, but I don't see him coming back. :confused Loria is gonna take the money he is saving from Enc/Lowell/AGon/Conine and putting it to Raffy. Lots of speed in the lineup.
October 6, 200519 yr I'm a big Lowell fan, but I don't see him coming back. :confused Loria is gonna take the money he is saving from Enc/Lowell/AGon/Conine and putting it to Raffy. Lots of speed in the lineup. 1. It's just 2006 Marlins, we don't play in the winter. 2. We are NOT going for Furcal, we would then have 3 leadoff hitters, and if we did get him, how would they set the line-up up? Pierre, Castillo, Furcal - or Pierre, Furcal, and Castillo 7th??
October 6, 200519 yr Having speed at the top and bottom of the order isn't a bad thing tho...Good speedster at the 8 hole gets on, pitcher can bunt runner into scoring position (if less than 2 outs) and keep turning that line-up over...
October 6, 200519 yr I thought we were missing power, not fast guys with middling ability to reach base safely.
October 6, 200519 yr Author I'm a big Lowell fan, but I don't see him coming back. :confused Loria is gonna take the money he is saving from Enc/Lowell/AGon/Conine and putting it to Raffy. Lots of speed in the lineup. 1. It's just 2006 Marlins, we don't play in the winter. 2. We are NOT going for Furcal, we would then have 3 leadoff hitters, and if we did get him, how would they set the line-up up? Pierre, Castillo, Furcal - or Pierre, Furcal, and Castillo 7th?? 1- Thanks, I had my mind in basketball. 2- I like Pierre, I think he is great for covering the large centerfield at home and is a threat on the bases. However, he isn't our leadoff hitter anymore. He will probably get somewhere at the bottom of the lineup at this point. Furcal Castillo Delgado Cabrera Hermida LoDuca Pierre Aguila (P)
October 6, 200519 yr What about this one 1. Pierre (CF) 2. Castillo (2nd) 3. Delgado (1B) 4. Cabrera (3B) 5. LoDuca © 6. Nomar Garciaparra (SS - Signed for one of our 1 year specials) 7. Hermida (RF) 8. Connie/willingham/aguila (LF) 9. Vargas/D-train/Beckett/Johnson/Byrd
October 6, 200519 yr I like the idea although I'd flip Hermida and Aguila in the outfield. Me too. And in response to Rferry's post, I think we would do better with more speed. Hermida will provide as much power as Ency and Aguila/Willingham will provide more power than Lowell did this season. Furcal will provide more power than Gonzalez of 05. More speed and power in this lineup. I like it.
October 7, 200519 yr Why does no one get the fact that Furcal would make our defense up the middle sh*t with his innacurate throws that our subpar defensive 1B will not be able to handle. And Aguila has good speed himself. And I think we should trade Pierre(as I have said, we could rape the Yankees in a trade for him IMO) and replace him with the cheap Aguila.
October 7, 200519 yr I don't want Aguila starting....surely there's a better option out there. There's a better option on the team right now. I like Aguila a lot, but Willingham has so much more upside. Aguila's upside is as a quality 4th OF.
October 7, 200519 yr I think Aguila can be a .280, 15-20HR, 75-90 RBI, 25 SB guy at the major league level. We just have to give him a shot.
October 7, 200519 yr I don't want Aguila starting....surely there's a better option out there. There's a better option on the team right now. I like Aguila a lot, but Willingham has so much more upside. Aguila's upside is as a quality 4th OF. In Septermber/October, Aguila hit .400 even(6 for 15) compared to Willinghams .333(7 for 21), in that small sample size Aguila hit much better. I think spread out their averages, power #'s and everything would be roughly equal. When you add in Aguila's speed and vastly superior defensive ability Aguila has much more upside. Aguila's upside is as our next starting CF, Willinghams upside is as the 3rd catcher and 2nd utility guy and pinch hitter.
October 7, 200519 yr I think Aguila can be a .280, 15-20HR, 75-90 RBI, 25 SB guy at the major league level. We just have to give him a shot. Are you serious? 15 home runs? Chris Aguila???
October 7, 200519 yr Why does no one get the fact that Furcal would make our defense up the middle sh*t with his innacurate throws that our subpar defensive 1B will not be able to handle. And Aguila has good speed himself. And I think we should trade Pierre(as I have said, we could rape the Yankees in a trade for him IMO) and replace him with the cheap Aguila. The team would suffer greatly if you deal Pierre and move Aguila to CF....Aguila is not Pierre he's nowhere near to him.....And why the hell would we want Pavano back when he sucked in NY....Furcal would be great for this team....He's not as inaccurate as you think....You just have something personal against him....
October 7, 200519 yr Why does no one get the fact that Furcal would make our defense up the middle sh*t with his innacurate throws that our subpar defensive 1B will not be able to handle. And Aguila has good speed himself. And I think we should trade Pierre(as I have said, we could rape the Yankees in a trade for him IMO) and replace him with the cheap Aguila. The team would suffer greatly if you deal Pierre and move Aguila to CF....Aguila is not Pierre he's nowhere near to him.....And why the hell would we want Pavano back when he sucked in NY....Furcal would be great for this team....He's not as inaccurate as you think....You just have something personal against him.... I didn't mention Pavano, I just said we could take the Yankees in a deal for Pierre. And Furcal, who before this season averaged almost 30 errors a year, most of them throwing errors, is exactly as innacurate as I think.
October 7, 200519 yr 2b- Castillo C- LoDuca 1b- Delgado 3b- Cabrera Rf- Hermida SS- Nomar Lf- Willy Cf- Aguila / ?
October 7, 200519 yr I think Aguila can be a .280, 15-20HR, 75-90 RBI, 25 SB guy at the major league level. We just have to give him a shot. Are you serious? 15 home runs? Chris Aguila??? Actually, I agree with him. Aguila has power, and we've only seen him in limited AB's. I'm sure if given a full season, he could hit 20.
October 7, 200519 yr Why does no one get the fact that Furcal would make our defense up the middle sh*t with his innacurate throws that our subpar defensive 1B will not be able to handle. And Aguila has good speed himself. And I think we should trade Pierre(as I have said, we could rape the Yankees in a trade for him IMO) and replace him with the cheap Aguila. The team would suffer greatly if you deal Pierre and move Aguila to CF....Aguila is not Pierre he's nowhere near to him.....And why the hell would we want Pavano back when he sucked in NY....Furcal would be great for this team....He's not as inaccurate as you think....You just have something personal against him.... I didn't mention Pavano, I just said we could take the Yankees in a deal for Pierre. And Furcal, who before this season averaged almost 30 errors a year, most of them throwing errors, is exactly as innacurate as I think. Mis-information.....averaged almost 24 errors a season and had only 15 errors this season...once again as has been told to you multiple times.....this team needs offense....sacrifice fielding for someone who gets on base.
October 7, 200519 yr I don't want Aguila starting....surely there's a better option out there. There's a better option on the team right now. I like Aguila a lot, but Willingham has so much more upside. Aguila's upside is as a quality 4th OF. ^^^I'm with this guy. Under no circumstances do I want Aguila starting. Willy will be 27 and as ready as he'll ever be.
October 7, 200519 yr yea switch hermida with aguila. and start willingham and or conine instead of aguila and you have a nice lineup.
October 7, 200519 yr Swap Aguilia with Willingham and you've got yourself a team. A free agent pickup of a good reliever and veteran starter should seal the deal and make a solid ball club.
October 7, 200519 yr I think it's very simple, let the two players (Aguila and Willingham) go into spring training and one of them win the job.
October 7, 200519 yr In Septermber/October, Aguila hit .400 even(6 for 15) compared to Willinghams .333(7 for 21), in that small sample size Aguila hit much better. I think spread out their averages, power #'s and everything would be roughly equal. When you add in Aguila's speed and vastly superior defensive ability Aguila has much more upside. Aguila's upside is as our next starting CF, Willinghams upside is as the 3rd catcher and 2nd utility guy and pinch hitter. Those have to be the worst sample sizes of all-time. Minors Career G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP* SLG Willingham 532 1734 368 482 116 11 91 316 71 18 353 435 .278 .400 .515 Aguila 848 3027 461 836 183 28 79 427 79 41 291 706 .276 .340 .433 AAA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP* SLG Willingham 66 219 56 71 14 3 19 54 5 1 47 54 .324 .444 .676 Aguila 132 468 88 152 36 4 18 81 16 5 51 103 .325 .391 .534 AA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP* SLG Willingham 134 405 96 115 26 1 29 90 6 3 104 107 .284 .430 .568 Aguila 287 1007 145 296 65 8 21 130 25 17 102 218 .294 .359 .437 A G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP* SLG Willingham 328 1094 212 291 74 7 42 168 60 14 201 270 .266 .380 .462 Aguila 331 1220 186 305 63 13 34 168 30 16 98 286 .250 .306 .407 Willingham gets on base a ton more, brings more power, and his batting average isn't inflated by repeating the same level in AA and AAA. And then you can just throw in the fact that Willingham was ranked our #5 prospect while Aguila was #28. The OBP has an * because it's estimated, it's only Hits + Walks/AB + Walks.
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