Hotcorner Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Sentinel link Rather than prove he was ready to assume the Marlins' starting shortstop job, Robert Andino departed the Arizona Fall League last week having raised troubling questions about his future. His unspectacular .612 on-base plus slugging percentage wasn't the most disappointing part of his 19 games with the Grand Canyon Rafters. Andino played so lackadaisically and with such a poor attitude that Marlins vice president of player personnel Dan Jennings personally delivered a pointed reprimand. Andino batted .263, but just three of his 20 hits went for extra bases (all doubles). Not that the Marlins had Andino's name penciled into the Opening Day lineup. During a 44 at-bat stint with the club in September, Andino didn't hit enough or show the defensive acumen necessary to supplant Alex Gonzalez in 2006. Gonzalez's representative has spoken with the Marlins on several occasions. In light of Andino's AFL performance and a paltry group of free-agent shortstops, the Marlins could contemplate offering Gonzalez at least a two-year deal. Both the Cubs and Braves are believed to have pinpointed Gonzalez as Plan B assuming they don't land free agent Rafael Furcal. Among the most appealing free agent stopgap options are Royce Clayton and Nomar Garciaparra. Clayton is a type A free agent, meaning the Marlins would lose a first-round pick. At this point Garciaparra may be better suited for third base. Other free agent possibilities include: Jose Valentin, Deivi Cruz, Pokey Reese, Abraham Nunez and Rich Aurilia. Not a very good sign for anyone hoping Andino might step in for Alex next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Yea he's been a hotdog since H.S. i hope we pick somebody up to play SS so Andino finally mans up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Another year at AA would indicate to him he's not going to have anything handed to him and he's not going to be promoted by doing the littliest work possible. Plus we'd need the SS spot at AAA for whoever will be backing up Luiy and the new SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Andino showed flashes of power, in a season or two in the bigs he would probably be the same low BA decent to high power # guy Seabass is. And if he dogs it unless someone is watching him closely, just have Perry Hill or Joe Girardi chew his ass from day 1 of spring training, he will have the idea by opening day. But from what I have heard, when playing like he should and not being lackidasical, he is a stud defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Life Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 We saw it last year... Andino is not ready for the Pro's! I mean the kid was late on every pitch in every at-at he had! If Gonzo isnt coming back we really need a SS. I rather have an OLD FART like barry larkin that Andino at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Test Gonzalez' loyalty claims, 2 years, $7 million total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 With Andino struggling badly, this is just going to force the FO to re-sign Seabass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Seabass 2/$7 mil...I dont know if he will take that with Rollins big deal and Furcal making big claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 With Andino struggling badly, this is just going to force the FO to re-sign Seabass. There are other options, notably a free agent signing and Josh Wilson, and you can bet the Marlins are considering them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Andino looks like a problem waiting to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 With Andino struggling badly, this is just going to force the FO to re-sign Seabass. There are other options, notably a free agent signing and Josh Wilson, and you can bet the Marlins are considering them. As lost as Andino was at the plate last year, Wilson looked even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markotsay7 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Just a sign to show we need Alex back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Well, if we resign Seabass then the answer would, in fact, be in the Marlin organization mr. penguin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman81 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Signing Pokey Reese would push the Marlins into strong World Series contenders. Andino is a little sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texfish Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Heard a rumor that he called in sick his last day in AFL, then came in and cleaned out his locker and left. Maybe that's what Jennings got upset about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batato Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I heard Andino is a big fan of Terrel Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Maybe, but probably not. There was an earlier story regarding this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinGuru Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 What a total idiot. This is going to make our solution for our 2006 SS even harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinmemito Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I heard he wasn't pleased at all to be going to the AFL. He wanted to spend some time with his wife and baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman81 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I heard Andino is a big fan of Terrel Owens. I heard they're entirely separate and not at all similar. I also heard that Terrell wasn't a hard name to spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Life Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 We need Seabass back!! Look whos a FA playing shortstop! Normar and Furcal out out auto cause of the $$$ Who else? NO ONE!! WE NEED HIM BACK!! http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/hot...s&teamPosCode=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 We need Seabass back!! Look whos a FA playing shortstop! Normar and Furcal out out auto cause of the $$$ Who else? NO ONE!! WE NEED HIM BACK!! http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/hot...s&teamPosCode=6 Nomar will probably make less money than Alex, and he'll probably be more willing to sign a one year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Life Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 We need Seabass back!! Look whos a FA playing shortstop! Normar and Furcal out out auto cause of the $$$ Who else? NO ONE!! WE NEED HIM BACK!! http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/hot...s&teamPosCode=6 Nomar will probably make less money than Alex, and he'll probably be more willing to sign a one year deal. You think so? The 1 yr deal yea but not the money.. I mean if it is 1 yr then of course its gonna be less but if its multi I dont think it would be less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markotsay7 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 What a total idiot. This is going to make our solution for our 2006 SS even harder. There's a very simple solution. We've had him for 7 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 But, the question is, will Gonzalez really take a discount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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