I think this is all B.S but here it is....

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/03/cardinals_kicki.html

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/03/marlins_looking.html

On to the big gun, Rev's Miguel Cabrera rumor. Some more details: the Marlins requested Chone Figgins and assorted Angels top prospects for their young superstar but were turned down. The Fish are definitely shopping Cabrera at this point.

 

Umm yeah right. These people need to get out of the house a bit more. Its beautiful outside!!

:lol

 

Beinfest isn't that stupid.

 

Neither are the Angels.

Any rumon about Cabs is also linked to the Cardinals and Pooholes, mostly because it's a cardinals fan wet dream.

 

The Cardinals farm system doesnt have enough in it(worst in baseball afterall), and Marquis/Reyes/Wainright is about 1/4th of what they would need to give, and they have no one else of value down there.

I can think of two reasons (and probably more) why the Fish wouldn't be trading Cabrera right now.

 

(1) He's only making $475k this season and (2) if the team were to become serious about moving elsewhere, having a Cabrera makes the team worth so much more.

LOL

Who dreams these things up? Total BS

that's the worst POS garbage trade rumor site imaginable.

Makes zero sense to trade him this year. A few years down the road, maybe (though hopefully not), but not now.

It'd be one thing if it was something believable. Like to the Mariners for Felix Hernandez or something. But this is really kind of sad that people like this actually have opinions published.

Seems to me that Jocketty's been looking to make that big splash all offseason, and obviously this would qualify. I would expect Anthony Reyes to depart as well as whatever other big-name prospect the team could wrangle. Reyes fits the bill as a Major League-ready, front rotation type starter. The Cards would use Cabrera in left field and could improve the club by as many as five wins with the addition.

 

:lol :lol :lol

 

5 only?

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would happen on this board would be if he were traded.

 

It won't happen this year though

Didn't the Marlins already have their way with Reyes this spring?

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

 

 

Um, ya, untouchable about sums it up. A player like him doesn't come into an organization but once a lifetime.

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

 

 

Yeah, but here's the thing, Weaver and Wood are pretty close to untouchable so many of the top Angels players aren't just out there for the taking, and I doubt they'd agree to a 4 for 1 or 5 for 1 swap.

 

I will say this though, if this ownership group has any hope of seriously winning in the next 5 years, Cabrera is going to be a big part of it so trading him better bring a hell of a lot back. So in essence I agree, but in practice it just can't happen.

got to agree with DelGOT here...

 

not that we would be moving Cabs, but I would suspect we would get something like what he said

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

 

 

If that kind of package were available around the time he's due for big money (not now), I think you've got to at least consider it. Nobody is untouchable, not even the great Cabs.

i dont know what would be dumber, the marlins wanting just Chone and prospects for Cabs, or the Angels turning that down

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

 

 

Um, ya, untouchable about sums it up. A player like him doesn't come into an organization but once a lifetime.

 

 

I don't know.... if we can get Brandon Wood, Howie Kendrick, Kendry Morales, and Chone Figgans or package similar to that from the Angels I'll pull the trigger. I'll all do the same with the other L.A for Chad Billingsley, Russell Martin, Joel Guzman or Andy Laroche, and Greg Miller. High demands put I think it will be well worth it.

 

if you wnat to have a good laugh read what this guy all pro writes in the cards board

 

http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?foru...PostID=20523172

here's what i could find on google news:

 

3/3

original rumor:

As if Joe Girardi didn?t have it bad enough, there?s already talk that stud lefty Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera are both going to be available at the trade deadline this summer because their contracts are about to go through the roof.

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/rozner.asp?id=162312

 

original rumor cited:

As if Joe Girardi didn't have it bad enough, there's already talk that stud lefty Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera are both going to be available at the trade deadline this summer because their contracts are about to go through the roof. -- Daily Herald

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scor...uth.rumors.mlb/

 

3/5

original rumor presumably being rehashed:

Action: The Florida Marlins reportedly already are making plans to move star pitcher Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera at this summer's trade deadline.

 

Reaction: Some team will strike gold with Willis, who might be the most entertaining pitcher in baseball today. Cabrera is a future batting champion. The Yankees figure to wind up with at least one of them.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scor...uth.rumors.mlb/

 

right now it looks like there's just one original print source for the rumor, and the originator doesn't sound particularly credible.

 

if i see new info published in a legit print source, then i might start worrying.

here's what i could find on google news:

 

3/3

original rumor:

As if Joe Girardi didn?t have it bad enough, there?s already talk that stud lefty Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera are both going to be available at the trade deadline this summer because their contracts are about to go through the roof.

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/rozner.asp?id=162312

 

original rumor cited:

As if Joe Girardi didn't have it bad enough, there's already talk that stud lefty Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera are both going to be available at the trade deadline this summer because their contracts are about to go through the roof. -- Daily Herald

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scor...uth.rumors.mlb/

 

3/5

original rumor presumably being rehashed:

Action: The Florida Marlins reportedly already are making plans to move star pitcher Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera at this summer's trade deadline.

 

Reaction: Some team will strike gold with Willis, who might be the most entertaining pitcher in baseball today. Cabrera is a future batting champion. The Yankees figure to wind up with at least one of them.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scor...uth.rumors.mlb/

 

right now it looks like there's just one original print source for the rumor, and the originator doesn't sound particularly credible.

 

if i see new info published in a legit print source, then i might start worrying.

 

Here's where it all started from:

 

But will the third baseman be too expensive for the Marlins if the team retains its "market correction" strategy next year?

 

General Manager Admin Beinfest declined comment when the question was asked Saturday.

(2/27)

 

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/conte...rlins_0226.html

 

Certainly not encouraging from Beinfest, but never has more "news" been made with a no-comment.

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

 

 

If that kind of package were available around the time he's due for big money (not now), I think you've got to at least consider it. Nobody is untouchable, not even the great Cabs.

The problem is that this kind of package is NEVER around when he's due big money. The minute we are forced to pay him big bucks, we have our backs against the wall. Then, it becomes a bidding war against the teams willing to take on a HUGE contract, rather than trying to get the best (most) value for him. If you're going to trade Cabs, it has to be done this year or next year, because after that - he's making 5 Million a year in arbitration (like Willis), and teams know we'll take less.

 

Once again, I'm not saying trade him, but you have to pick your spots. Unless we got everything we want, I wouldn't trade him anyway. But to suggest that raping the Angels farm system would not be equal value doesn't pay respect to their top prospects, or give credence to the fact that their top prospects are seemingly at positions where the Fish are planning to start rule 5 pickups, etc.

Is Cabs really THAT untouchable?? I mean, if we were able to get 5 or 6 of the top Angels prospects in return, we could stock our team for years. MacPhearson, Wood, Kenrick, Jared Weaver, etc. I'm not saying that we should pull the trigger, but I don't think that any player should be viewed as "untouchable" when the reality is that we are not going to truly contend for a few years.

 

I'm not a Cabs basher...I'm just saying....

 

 

If that kind of package were available around the time he's due for big money (not now), I think you've got to at least consider it. Nobody is untouchable, not even the great Cabs.

The problem is that this kind of package is NEVER around when he's due big money. The minute we are forced to pay him big bucks, we have our backs against the wall. Then, it becomes a bidding war against the teams willing to take on a HUGE contract, rather than trying to get the best (most) value for him. If you're going to trade Cabs, it has to be done this year or next year, because after that - he's making 5 Million a year in arbitration (like Willis), and teams know we'll take less.

 

Once again, I'm not saying trade him, but you have to pick your spots. Unless we got everything we want, I wouldn't trade him anyway. But to suggest that raping the Angels farm system would not be equal value doesn't pay respect to their top prospects, or give credence to the fact that their top prospects are seemingly at positions where the Fish are planning to start rule 5 pickups, etc.

 

I agree and his value will likely not be as high as it is now by the time he is making the big bucks.

 

IF we can get a Chone Figgans, Brandon Wood, Kendry Morales, and lets say a Nick Adenhart or Howie Kendrick you have to pull the trigger. Will be set and possibily also better sooner and long term.

 

CF Chone Figgans

2b Howie Kendrick

RF Jeremy Hermida

3b Brandon Wood

C Josh Williangham

LF Kendry Morales

1B Mike Jacobs or Jason Stokes

SS Hanley Ramirez

miguel is a special talent and i see no reason to trade him this season. perhaps next year or the year after that. we've got him for cheap this season and relatively cheap next season (probably like $5 million).

 

our payroll is so low that i doubt we would move either willis or cabrera. we're at $18 and no one on the team will be arbitration eligibile next year besides willis and miggy. at most our payroll next year will go up to about $27 million.

 

lastly, we lose 105 games or more if we trade miggy before the season starts.