July 8, 200620 yr well i have no clue wat the hell is wrong with ricky nolasco and there are no more double headers for 3 weeks and i also dont see a point for carrying 7 starters. someones gotta go and i get the feeling that it might be nolasco!!! wat do u guys think
July 8, 200620 yr No. Vargas, Sanchez, or Petit if anyone. Since Vargas pitched alot today it's probably him (if someone even gets sent down) because of the likelihood he's unavailable tomorrow.
July 8, 200620 yr why not we dont need 7 starters we nbeed some releivers the only one out there is Resop and I dont think he could be called up till after the all star break
July 8, 200620 yr they could call up fulchino for long relief tomorrow not saying they will, but with the way the bullpen was/is still being used today it might happen
July 8, 200620 yr Author w/e all i care about is that the marlins do something after the break and send down one of those starters with a robust era hence sanchez petit or vargas and maybe even nolasco who needs to get his head out of his crack
July 9, 200620 yr Author my god has his season changes as he went from 6-3 to 6-6 and 3.15 era to 5.00 era. idk wat the hell is wrong with but it better change man. i know hes a rookie but these starts were just plain terrible as he had no control at all on any pitch!!!! wat do we do about him?
July 9, 200620 yr Send Vargas down. He hasn't shown anything since being called up and its obvious that he needs more work. Then again, it may not be experience that he's lacking, it may be talent. But either way, he should give the long hair a try again. It worked for him last year. If Aguila is healthy,bring him up..send Reggie down I've been in favor of that for a while. Reggie isn't doing us or himself any good by warming the pine and at least he has a chance to develop some more playing in the minors.
July 9, 200620 yr after the break Mitre is available to come off the DL, if Nolasco keeps pitching like crap I'd demote him. Vargas really took one for the team and he should be rewarded with a few more appearances send Pinto or Petit whichever ones still up down let them both get some work in the minors, hell while your at it give Sanchez one more go than send him down if he can't cut it. As for Reggie he would be better served in the minors and IMO they should call back up Reed he has more options than Aguila.
July 9, 200620 yr I actually doubt there are any moves made for the time being, what with Moehler's injury and Nolasco's ineffectiveness, you may just see Petit and Sanchez end up in the rotation with Nolasco being sent to the pen, if a move is made, honestly, I think it'll be more of the same with perhaps maybe Petit getting one more start.
July 9, 200620 yr Sanchez just might be sent to AAA to how he does there and keeping Petit up or vica versa....Vargas I would surmise is also headed there....one never knows for certain
July 9, 200620 yr i'd promote petit to the rotation and put nolasco in the 'pen. nolasco needs some time to get himself together and make adjustments as hitters are doing to him.
July 9, 200620 yr wow that was awesome in the second game. vargas needs to be sent down and told he is never starting another game for us. his stuff is mediocore at best and its definitely not ML quality starter stuff. Maybe he could be an effective reliever, but I dont know. What I do know is that he wont be a ML stater. Maybe he could be converted to an outfielder, at least his bat is more lethal than Reggies :hat
July 9, 200620 yr i will probably get ripped for this...but i thought Vargas looked alright all things considered (except for the one bad inning). He gave up 8 runs - but he had much, MUCH better control than his previous stint in the majors this season. His control was far from perfect, but at least he was around the strike zone and not walking every other hitter. When he missed, he seemed to miss right down the middle and a team with Beltran-Wright-Floyd, etc. is not going to miss those type of pitches. It's a babystep...but I thought Vargas looked a hell of alot better than he did early on. I also completely disagree that he doesn't have major league stuff. He's not overpowering, obviously, but if he can regain his control his stuff is more than major-league caliber. plenty of pitchers have relied on changing speeds and location...the guy we face tomorrow is a perfect example. If he can regain the control he had last season he will be a good pitcher, just like he was last season. If he can't, well, you know the rest.
July 9, 200620 yr i will probably get ripped for this...but i thought Vargas looked alright all things considered (except for the one bad inning). He gave up 8 runs - but he had much, MUCH better control than his previous stint in the majors this season. His control was far from perfect, but at least he was around the strike zone and not walking every other hitter. When he missed, he seemed to miss right down the middle and a team with Beltran-Wright-Floyd, etc. is not going to miss those type of pitches. It's a babystep...but I thought Vargas looked a hell of alot better than he did early on. I also completely disagree that he doesn't have major league stuff. He's not overpowering, obviously, but if he can regain his control his stuff is more than major-league caliber. plenty of pitchers have relied on changing speeds and location...the guy we face tomorrow is a perfect example. If he can regain the control he had last season he will be a good pitcher, just like he was last season. If he can't, well, you know the rest. Pretty good post IMO. Vargas dosen't have the maturity yet to be effective in the majors with his style of pitching. Maybe in time he will be.
July 9, 200620 yr wow that was awesome in the second game. vargas needs to be sent down and told he is never starting another game for us. his stuff is mediocore at best and its definitely not ML quality starter stuff. Maybe he could be an effective reliever, but I dont know. What I do know is that he wont be a ML stater. Maybe he could be converted to an outfielder, at least his bat is more lethal than Reggies :hat i totally agree. he was a firstbasemen in college when he didn't pitch. he led his team in hitting in his senior year.
July 9, 200620 yr In the not too distant future Vargas will fade out. He's nothing more than a top tier draft pick that didn't pan out. he's been in the majors for all of 9 months lol
July 10, 200620 yr In the not too distant future Vargas will fade out. He's nothing more than a top tier draft pick that didn't pan out. he's been in the majors for all of 9 months lol You've watched him pitch. Do you actually see good stuff? Do you see potential? I don't. I am against infatutation with mediocre players that ultimately aren't good enough for the show. That's something characteristic of the Orioles, but I'd hate to see it with the Marlins. have you watched mark buehrle pitch? tom glavine? kenny rogers? what kind of "stuff" do you see with those guys? you don't need a 96 MPH fastball with a sharp offspeed pitch to be successful...many of you may think you do because of who we have/have had come through our system (beckett, penny, burnett, nolasco, johnson, olsen, etc, etc.) vargas has a great change - if he can control his stuff he'll be a very effective starter. i think, over time, he will and plenty of you guys will be eating "crow" :shifty .
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