The principal at Weston School was shot Friday morning by a former student who entered the school armed with multiple weapons.

 

The district says that Principal John Klang was shot, but would not confirm his condition. The station reported that the school is in lockdown.

 

Richland County Sheriff Chief Deputy Tom Hougan was at the scene outside the school.

 

"The students are safe," Hougan said. "The scene is secure."

http://www.newstalk1130.com/cc-common/main...article=1146431

This is tough news, I was hoping we wouldn't have another incident like this.

 

 

What really breaks my heart is that kids with bright futures are dying because school systems are more concerned about cell phones in the classroom than the possibility of handguns - and I guarantee you that firearms are brought to school more often than you'd ever think. I hate to say it but I think the lesson has been learned in too many instances now to NOT start putting airport-like security checks at public schools. It's a shame that this is becoming a necessity to save lives.

This is tough news, I was hoping we wouldn't have another incident like this.

 

 

What really breaks my heart is that kids with bright futures are dying because school systems are more concerned about cell phones in the classroom than the possibility of handguns - and I guarantee you that firearms are brought to school more often than you'd ever think. I hate to say it but I think the lesson has been learned in too many instances now to NOT start putting airport-like security checks at public schools. It's a shame that this is becoming a necessity to save lives.

 

That will do nothing. A psycho going into a school who wants to kill a bunch of people will do it one way or the other, whether it's shooting the person running the metal detector or waiting until school gets out and shooting everyone in the parking lot, it'll happen. In this case, the former student had a specific vendetta against the principal for whatever reason, if the kid couldn't get into the school then he would have waited until the principal was walking to his car, one way or another it would have happened.

 

A psychopath would never get passed a security checkpoint at an airport because there are countless armed officers and others in the immediate area and the psycho would be taken down before he was able to try anything. There will never be that level at security at schools, the metal detectors at schools in places like New York City are manned by 80 year old unarmed security guards - let's say a crazed psycho wants to shoot up one of those schools, the metal detector goes off and the psycho keeps walking, what's the security guard going to do... ask nicely to stop? Not gonna happen.

 

You want a real solution? Get rid of the ridiculous "gun free zone" laws at schools and allow law abiding citizens with legal concealed weapons licenses to carry in schools. Criminals obviously do not obey "gun free zones" - this incident, the incident a few days ago, and several others should be enough to make people open their eyes. More legislation will be nothing because psychopath criminals do not follow the law in the first place. The whackjob who went into the school and took hostages the other day was GUARANTEED by the federal government that he would meet no armed resistance whatsoever in the school, leaving THOUSANDS of students and teachers at the mercy of one crazed psycho.

 

Law abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed in schools. All it would have taken was one teacher with a CCW to end the madness. I have never heard of a 21 year old high school student before, so a student having a legal CCW would never happen, only teachers, faculty, and other adults would be legally carrying in the school.

 

Some states have their heads on their shoudlers, such as the Luby's restaurant massacre in Texas. At the time concealed carry was illegal, all it would have taken was one law abiding citizen carrying a legal concealed weapon to end the madness and prevent the senseless murder of more than 20 people. One woman actually had a firearm, but because it was illegal to carry concealed she left it in her car only to watch both of her parents be murdered execution style. If only concealed carry was legal and she had that gun on her, the outcome could have been different. That woman went on to become I believe a Senator and was responsible for getting concealed carry made legal in Texas so something like this doesn't happen again. Texas has it right, other states just create more senseless laws which psychopath criminals won't follow in the first place.

You want a real solution?[A]llow law abiding citizens with legal concealed weapons to carry in schools.

 

Law abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed in schools.

 

My God. You are the craziest human being on the planet.

 

This is why the current leadership of the NRA has lost their minds.

You want a real solution?[A]llow law abiding citizens with legal concealed weapons to carry in schools.

 

Law abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed in schools.

 

My God. You are the craziest human being on the planet.

There isn't a single word in the dictionary to describe your egregious level of ignorance on the subject. F_M, you have no f***ing clue what you're talking about.

 

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS do not shoot up schools, so explain to me why it should be banned and schools should remain to be a criminals paradise? Not a single person will ever know they're carrying unless an extreme life or death situation like the one in Wisconsin or the one in Colorado presents itself.

 

Sorry F_M, I realize that you're a liberal and think everything is just one big fairy tale, but the fact of the matter is there ARE sick people out there who want to shoot up schools, massacre people in restaurants, and other incredibly heinous things and the only way these acts will be stopped once they have began is with deadly force, not begging for mercy, praying, or hoping for the best. I know you're a future lawyer, however more laws do not stop psychopaths from shooting up schools because criminals do not follow the law.

 

It takes a special kind of sick SOB to commit crimes like this, and those people certainly will not abide by more laws. They're already committing murder, so why on earth would they abide by other laws?

 

The only one in this thread who is crazy is the one who thinks people have no right to self defense and should be good victims.

 

EDIT: I just saw that you added "This is why the current leadership of the NRA has lost their minds." For your information, the President (or mabye it's the chairman?) of the NRA is a female who was a hardcore member of the anti-gun lobby until one night she was RAPED, and now she lives everyday of her life by the words "NEVER AGAIN." The only ones who have lost their minds are warped liberals who think criminals actually abide by the laws which they create which only end up hurting the honest law abiding citizens.

You want a real solution?[A]llow law abiding citizens with legal concealed weapons to carry in schools.

 

Law abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed in schools.

 

My God. You are the craziest human being on the planet.

There isn't a single word in the dictionary to describe your egregious level of ignorance on the subject. F_M, you have no f***ing clue what you're talking about.

 

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS do not shoot up schools, so explain to me why it should be banned and schools should remain to be a criminals paradise? Not a single person will ever know they're carrying unless an extreme life or death situation like the one in Wisconsin or the one in Colorado presents itself.

 

Yeah, that's it, let's arm 14 and 15-year-olds with guns in the schools because they are "law abiding citizens". That is, until one immature pimple faced teenager makes fun of another and gets shot. Then I guess they aren't so law abiding anymore.

 

Guns in schools....LOL! :lol :lol :lol

There is no point for me to respond. I'm going to let accord dig his own hole on this one.

You want a real solution?[A]llow law abiding citizens with legal concealed weapons to carry in schools.

 

Law abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed in schools.

 

My God. You are the craziest human being on the planet.

There isn't a single word in the dictionary to describe your egregious level of ignorance on the subject. F_M, you have no f***ing clue what you're talking about.

 

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS do not shoot up schools, so explain to me why it should be banned and schools should remain to be a criminals paradise? Not a single person will ever know they're carrying unless an extreme life or death situation like the one in Wisconsin or the one in Colorado presents itself.

 

Yeah, that's it, let's arm 14 and 15-year-olds with guns in the schools because they are "law abiding citizens". That is, until one immature pimple faced teenager makes fun of another and gets shot. Then I guess they aren't so law abiding anymore.

 

Guns in schools....LOL! :lol :lol :lol

Your reading comprehension is impeccable!

 

14 and 15 year olds are not of legal age to own firearms, much less legally obtain a concealed weapons permit. You must be 21 years old and submit to an extensive FBI background check which involves going to your local police station to be fingerprinted and it is a process which takes months, on top of attending a long training class among other things . The only ones who would be carrying are responsible adult law abiding citizens over the age of 21 with the training and know-how to end a life or death situation. That pretty much narrows it down to teachers, administrators, the rest of the faculty, and any other adult who have all been through the process.

 

You liberals all think that anyone can just go buy a gun and carry it wherever the hell they want and do whatever the hell they want with their gun, it doesn't work that way for people who obey the law, which most legal gun owners are.

 

There is no point for me to respond. I'm going to let accord dig his own hole on this one.

 

You will not respond because you have no response. You are wrong and you know it, you just have too much pride to come out and admit it. You cannot argue point-by-point with me on this subject because you know that any argument you may have can and will be easily refuted immediately.

 

Go ahead and respond F_M, the only things you can support your arguments with are blanket assumptions, personal opinion, and feelings - not fact, logic, and common sense (which obviously isn't all that common anymore).

 

Most of the things I said simply CANNOT even be debated.

Sorry my knowledge of firearm laws is not in tiptop sniper shape like yours and I didn't bother to read 98% of your garbage spewing rant.

 

I stand by my assertion of firearms in school being laughable. You want them there, you don't arm the citizens, you hire law enforcement.

Sorry my knowledge of firearm laws is not in tiptop sniper shape like yours and I didn't bother to read 98% of your garbage spewing rant.

 

I stand by my assertion of firearms in school being laughable. You want them there, you don't arm the citizens, you hire law enforcement.

 

Thinking that a 14 year old is able to legally carry a handgun has nothing to do with knowledge of the laws or lack thereof, it's just downright stupidity.

 

The entire reason for allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons is because law enforcement, no matter how many officers are patrolling the streets (or in this case, schools), they cannot be everywhere all the time protecting every single person. Unless they're your personal body guard and are with you 24/7, then you need to be self sufficient.

 

Schools are not safe places 100% of the time as evidenced by the events over the past week. If that teacher in the classroom exercised his right to lawfully carry a legal firearm, he could have ended the threat immediately rather than allow the two female students to be raped and watch one of them eventually be murdered.

 

Nothing I said in my postings above were rants, merely common sense that 90 million fellow law abiding citizens who are gun owners agree with.

The number of school shootings had actually decreased significantly last year compared to 1999, when Columbine happened.

 

Metal detectors in school, and increased security measures (not involving guns) have helped to cut down on school violence at least somewhat.

 

If we are going to let school security have any kind of weapons at all, it should be something non-lethal like a taser. No guns in schools.

The number of school shootings had actually decreased significantly last year compared to 1999, when Columbine happened.

 

Metal detectors in school, and increased security measures (not involving guns) have helped to cut down on school violence at least somewhat.

 

If we are going to let school security have any kind of weapons at all, it should be something non-lethal like a taser. No guns in schools.

 

Gang violence and other things? Sure. It just happens off school grounds now. However these safety measures like metal detectors do absolutely nothing in preventing the truly heinous crimes such as psychopath's with tunnelvision, which is what this thread is about. I'm sure Eric Cleebold (I think that was his name?) would have definitely stopped to check his guns and weapons at the metal detector like the good honest law abiding citizen that he was .

 

And tasers are not 100% effective on every person, and when someone is hopped up on drugs or they're a psychopath with adrenaline flowing through their veins the likelyhood of stopping them with a form of non-lethal force drops significantly. You have a psychopath running through a school, with a taser you only have one chance to hit him and there is no guarantee to it's effectiveness. If a suspect pointed a gun at a police officer, he would be met with deadly force, not a taser. This is no different, the only way to be guaranteed to end a threat is to shut down the central nervous system via a gunshot wound to a vital organ. When it comes to life and death, you don't play around with non-lethal methods, you go with what works 100% of the time. Non-lethal is fine for riots, unruly drunks, and other things, but not for crazed psychopaths with the mission of killing as many people as possible.

 

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Sorry my knowledge of firearm laws is not in tiptop sniper shape like yours and I didn't bother to read 98% of your garbage spewing rant.

 

I stand by my assertion of firearms in school being laughable. You want them there, you don't arm the citizens, you hire law enforcement.

 

Thinking that a 14 year old is able to legally carry a handgun has nothing to do with knowledge of the laws or lack thereof, it's just downright stupidity.

 

The entire reason for allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons is because law enforcement, no matter how many officers are patrolling the streets (or in this case, schools), they cannot be everywhere all the time protecting every single person. Unless they're your personal body guard and are with you 24/7, then you need to be self sufficient.

 

Schools are not safe places 100% of the time as evidenced by the events over the past week. If that teacher in the classroom exercised his right to lawfully carry a legal firearm, he could have ended the threat immediately rather than allow the two female students to be raped and watch one of them eventually be murdered.

 

Nothing I said in my postings above were rants, merely common sense that 90 million fellow law abiding citizens who are gun owners agree with.

 

Yeah, having citizens in schools armed with guns is just great common sense....if you say so Mr. Koresh. :whistle

Sorry my knowledge of firearm laws is not in tiptop sniper shape like yours and I didn't bother to read 98% of your garbage spewing rant.

 

I stand by my assertion of firearms in school being laughable. You want them there, you don't arm the citizens, you hire law enforcement.

 

Thinking that a 14 year old is able to legally carry a handgun has nothing to do with knowledge of the laws or lack thereof, it's just downright stupidity.

 

The entire reason for allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons is because law enforcement, no matter how many officers are patrolling the streets (or in this case, schools), they cannot be everywhere all the time protecting every single person. Unless they're your personal body guard and are with you 24/7, then you need to be self sufficient.

 

Schools are not safe places 100% of the time as evidenced by the events over the past week. If that teacher in the classroom exercised his right to lawfully carry a legal firearm, he could have ended the threat immediately rather than allow the two female students to be raped and watch one of them eventually be murdered.

 

Nothing I said in my postings above were rants, merely common sense that 90 million fellow law abiding citizens who are gun owners agree with.

 

Yeah, having citizens in schools armed with guns is just great common sense....if you say so Mr. Koresh. :whistle

Have you ever been to a movie theatre? Store? Restaurant? Mall?

 

If so, then you have been in the company of just a handful of the millions of law abiding citizens who exercise their right to lawfully carry a legal concealed weapon - and you never even knew it. Schools are no different.

 

You always hear about postal workers who "go postal." Are you aware that post officers are also "gun free zones" where firearms are strictly prohibited? Yeah - that law sure worked out real well, all it did was deprive those poor victims of a means of self defense and there are people who died in post offices and schools who didn't have to.

 

You clearly do not understand what concealed carry is or even the simple basics of it, therefore I do not expect you will be able to comprehend what I just wrote.

 

 

And F_M, let's see you reply and try and refute the points i've made above in this thread. I believe you're the only one on this forum capable of giving me a challenge in this debate, so let's go. It's boring debating mindless drones who have grown up believing everything they see in Hollywood like the ones who've already posted in this thread.

 

So come on F_M, let's see what you have to say.

I agree with Accord on the subject. I am also frustrated that schools seem to be more concerned with whether or not a skirt is too short or if a kid brought a cell phone to school, than real issues.

Sorry my knowledge of firearm laws is not in tiptop sniper shape like yours and I didn't bother to read 98% of your garbage spewing rant.

 

I stand by my assertion of firearms in school being laughable. You want them there, you don't arm the citizens, you hire law enforcement.

 

Thinking that a 14 year old is able to legally carry a handgun has nothing to do with knowledge of the laws or lack thereof, it's just downright stupidity.

 

The entire reason for allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons is because law enforcement, no matter how many officers are patrolling the streets (or in this case, schools), they cannot be everywhere all the time protecting every single person. Unless they're your personal body guard and are with you 24/7, then you need to be self sufficient.

 

Schools are not safe places 100% of the time as evidenced by the events over the past week. If that teacher in the classroom exercised his right to lawfully carry a legal firearm, he could have ended the threat immediately rather than allow the two female students to be raped and watch one of them eventually be murdered.

 

Nothing I said in my postings above were rants, merely common sense that 90 million fellow law abiding citizens who are gun owners agree with.

 

Yeah, having citizens in schools armed with guns is just great common sense....if you say so Mr. Koresh. :whistle

Have you ever been to a movie theatre? Store? Restaurant? Mall?

 

If so, then you have been in the company of just a handful of the millions of law abiding citizens who exercise their right to lawfully carry a legal concealed weapon - and you never even knew it. Schools are no different.

 

You always hear about postal workers who "go postal." Are you aware that post officers are also "gun free zones" where firearms are strictly prohibited? Yeah - that law sure worked out real well, all it did was deprive those poor victims of a means of self defense and there are people who died in post offices and schools who didn't have to.

 

You clearly do not understand what concealed carry is or even the simple basics of it, therefore I do not expect you will be able to comprehend what I just wrote.

 

 

And F_M, let's see you reply and try and refute the points i've made above in this thread. I believe you're the only one on this forum capable of giving me a challenge in this debate, so let's go. It's boring debating mindless drones who have grown up believing everything they see in Hollywood like the ones who've already posted in this thread.

 

So come on F_M, let's see what you have to say.

What argument do you want me to counter? You're being conclusive in everything you say. You simply assume everything you think is true without actually backing them up with facts or evidence. Of course this is the problem with all of your viewpoints. You simplify everything to the least common denominator to fit your insane presumptions.

 

Ive already countered your wacko theory that having guns present somehow deters criminals.

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...66893&st=75

 

Why don't you respond to that with the actual links I posted. Why do cities that don't ban guns have higher crime rates than cities that do ban guns? Why don't criminals flock to areas that have low gun possesions?

 

You act like a criminal is totally rational and seeks out non-gun areas. You ignore that crazy people can be stopped at the door with metal detectors instead of getting into a school. You ignore enormous risks like accidental killings or students finding the gun when a teacher leaves it around. You decry people for exagerating accidental gun death rates but think every last street of our country is at war because of random acts of violence. You ignore the gun free school zone stuff affects criminals and gangbangers who get arrested for bringing lawfully owned guns to schools.

 

You're defense of having guns at schools would also be a defense of having ferocious guard dogs roaming schools. In you're world maybe that's ideal.

 

Maybe you should build a bunker, take a bunch of canned food, and hide out from the zombies, aliens, and vampires.

Maybe you should build a bunker, take a bunch of canned food, and hide out from the zombies, aliens, and vampires.

 

 

lol. I think I'm gonna cry from laughing so hard.

 

You guys are great.

Sorry my knowledge of firearm laws is not in tiptop sniper shape like yours and I didn't bother to read 98% of your garbage spewing rant.

 

I stand by my assertion of firearms in school being laughable. You want them there, you don't arm the citizens, you hire law enforcement.

 

Thinking that a 14 year old is able to legally carry a handgun has nothing to do with knowledge of the laws or lack thereof, it's just downright stupidity.

 

The entire reason for allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons is because law enforcement, no matter how many officers are patrolling the streets (or in this case, schools), they cannot be everywhere all the time protecting every single person. Unless they're your personal body guard and are with you 24/7, then you need to be self sufficient.

 

Schools are not safe places 100% of the time as evidenced by the events over the past week. If that teacher in the classroom exercised his right to lawfully carry a legal firearm, he could have ended the threat immediately rather than allow the two female students to be raped and watch one of them eventually be murdered.

 

Nothing I said in my postings above were rants, merely common sense that 90 million fellow law abiding citizens who are gun owners agree with.

 

Yeah, having citizens in schools armed with guns is just great common sense....if you say so Mr. Koresh. :whistle

Have you ever been to a movie theatre? Store? Restaurant? Mall?

 

If so, then you have been in the company of just a handful of the millions of law abiding citizens who exercise their right to lawfully carry a legal concealed weapon - and you never even knew it. Schools are no different.

 

You always hear about postal workers who "go postal." Are you aware that post officers are also "gun free zones" where firearms are strictly prohibited? Yeah - that law sure worked out real well, all it did was deprive those poor victims of a means of self defense and there are people who died in post offices and schools who didn't have to.

 

You clearly do not understand what concealed carry is or even the simple basics of it, therefore I do not expect you will be able to comprehend what I just wrote.

 

 

And F_M, let's see you reply and try and refute the points i've made above in this thread. I believe you're the only one on this forum capable of giving me a challenge in this debate, so let's go. It's boring debating mindless drones who have grown up believing everything they see in Hollywood like the ones who've already posted in this thread.

 

So come on F_M, let's see what you have to say.

What argument do you want me to counter? You're being conclusive in everything you say. You simply assume everything you think is true without actually backing them up with facts or evidence. Of course this is the problem with all of your viewpoints. You simplify everything to the least common denominator to fit your insane presumptions.

 

Ive already countered your wacko theory that having guns present somehow deters criminals.

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...66893&st=75

 

Why don't you respond to that with the actual links I posted. Why do cities that don't ban guns have higher crime rates than cities that do ban guns? Why don't criminals flock to areas that have low gun possesions?

 

You act like a criminal is totally rational and seeks out non-gun areas. You ignore that crazy people can be stopped at the door with metal detectors instead of getting into a school. You ignore enormous risks like accidental killings or students finding the gun when a teacher leaves it around. You decry people for exagerating accidental gun death rates but think every last street of our country is at war because of random acts of violence. You ignore the gun free school zone stuff affects criminals and gangbangers who get arrested for bringing lawfully owned guns to schools.

 

You're defense of having guns at schools would also be a defense of having ferocious guard dogs roaming schools. In you're world maybe that's ideal.

 

Maybe you should build a bunker, take a bunch of canned food, and hide out from the zombies, aliens, and vampires.

You couldn't be any more wrong in your post.

 

1) You never refuted what I stated in that GOP thread, you pick and chose 2 or 3 things to repsond to and that was it all the while you ignored the real points made in the thread. You did not reply to the points I made, you ignored them.

 

2) People with CCW's do not just "leave their guns around." I am not ignoring risks like accidental killings, because carrying concealed in a school is NO DIFFERENT than carrying concealed in any other public place with a lot of people. There are never any accidental killings by law abiding citizens with legally owned concealed weapons in movie theatres, restaurants, malls, etc., so why on earth would a school be any different? Short answer: It wouldn't be any different.

 

3) You tell me i'm ignoring the fact that gun free school zone crap affects criminals and gangbangers who get arrested for bringing lawfully owned guns to school? WRONG! The guns brought to schools by those people are ILLEGAL to begin with. You must be 21 years old to purchase and own a handgun in nearly every state, if a 17 year old gangbanger brings a gun to school, it is neither legal nor lawfully owned and he's already breaking the law, the "gun free zone" is irrelevent.

 

4) My defense is nothing along the lines of having ferocious guard dogs roaming the halls of schools nationwide, merely LAW ABIDING CITIZENS with CONCEALED CARRY LICENSES should be allowed to carry on school grounds. If someone has a concealed carry license, that means they've been through an FBI background check among several other things, to tell these people they cannot carry in a school is asinine. You cannot pick and choose when and where you may become a victim and the police cannot protect you 24/7, so you simply go through the process of lawfully obtaining a concealed carry license.

 

Telling people they cannot carry in schools is no different than telling people they cannot carry in churches. I bet all you liberals are like "OMG GUNZ IN CHURCHES THATS SOOOO WRONG YOU MUST BE CRAZY!!!!" Tell that to the seven law abiding citizens who were massacred inside the Wedgewood Baptist Church on a beautiful Sunday morning and the seven others who were critically wounded by a madman who later turned the gun on himself. Or how about the St. John Fellowship Church in Louisiana where a madman brutally murdered 3 people and injured 4 others before turning the gun on himself.

 

Over the past two decades there have been massacres in restaurants, churches, schools, and other places you would think would be safe places, and peoples god given right to self defense is stripped from them by their lawmakers rendering them with nothing more than a prayer.

 

Mabye I should build a bunker? Mabye you should bend over and allow yourself to be an easy victim.

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

 

WTF are you talking about? I took no shots at anyone in my last post, and I have made intelligent arguments throughout this entire thread all the while liberals above just give cheap one-liners writing off anything I say as crazy talk while admitting they haven't even bothered to take the three seconds required to read my arguments. Why don't you come down on them for being idiots rather than forming an intelligent argument of their own in response? I'm the only who who has posted anything in this entire with some semblence of reasoning up until F_M's last post.

 

Get the hell off my nuts, thanks.

Mabye I should build a bunker? Mabye you should bend over and allow yourself to be an easy victim.

 

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

 

WTF are you talking about? I took no shots at anyone in my last post, and I have made intelligent arguments throughout this entire thread all the while liberals above just give cheap one-liners writing off anything I say as crazy talk while admitting they haven't even bothered to take the three seconds required to read my arguments. Why don't you come down on them for being idiots rather than forming an intelligent argument of their own in response? I'm the only who who has posted anything in this entire with some semblence of reasoning up until F_M's last post.

 

Get the hell off my nuts, thanks.

 

 

Thats a personal shot. The ice you walk on is quite thin.

Mabye I should build a bunker? Mabye you should bend over and allow yourself to be an easy victim.

 

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

 

WTF are you talking about? I took no shots at anyone in my last post, and I have made intelligent arguments throughout this entire thread all the while liberals above just give cheap one-liners writing off anything I say as crazy talk while admitting they haven't even bothered to take the three seconds required to read my arguments. Why don't you come down on them for being idiots rather than forming an intelligent argument of their own in response? I'm the only who who has posted anything in this entire with some semblence of reasoning up until F_M's last post.

 

Get the hell off my nuts, thanks.

 

 

Thats a personal shot. The ice you walk on is quite thin.

Get the hell off my nuts.

 

I'm sure you're going to ban me now, but I don't give a f***, what HotCorner said is a load of CRAP and completely baseless and i'm not going to sit here and be nice about it when I did nothing wrong.

 

This is absurd, I make good, well thought out and intelligent arguments and you guys have nothing to say in response other than cheap threats "the ice you walk on is thin" oh please, go throw your ego around somewhere else. Join the debate in a mature manner like F_M did, or stay out of it.

Mabye I should build a bunker? Mabye you should bend over and allow yourself to be an easy victim.

 

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

 

WTF are you talking about? I took no shots at anyone in my last post, and I have made intelligent arguments throughout this entire thread all the while liberals above just give cheap one-liners writing off anything I say as crazy talk while admitting they haven't even bothered to take the three seconds required to read my arguments. Why don't you come down on them for being idiots rather than forming an intelligent argument of their own in response? I'm the only who who has posted anything in this entire with some semblence of reasoning up until F_M's last post.

 

Get the hell off my nuts, thanks.

 

 

Thats a personal shot. The ice you walk on is quite thin.

Get the hell off my nuts.

 

I'm sure you're going to ban me now, but I don't give a f***, what HotCorner said is a load of CRAP and completely baseless and i'm not going to sit here and be nice about it when I did nothing wrong.

 

 

I tried.

 

I cant find them.

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

 

WTF are you talking about? I took no shots at anyone in my last post, and I have made intelligent arguments throughout this entire thread all the while liberals above just give cheap one-liners writing off anything I say as crazy talk while admitting they haven't even bothered to take the three seconds required to read my arguments. Why don't you come down on them for being idiots rather than forming an intelligent argument of their own in response? I'm the only who who has posted anything in this entire with some semblence of reasoning up until F_M's last post.

 

Get the hell off my nuts, thanks.

nah...i read everything you typed on this thread...and all i can say is that you and charlie manson would be very dear friends...as for the guns...if you cant kill a man with your own hands, then you should take that gun and shoot yourself first :whistle

Accord let's see if you can make a few posts without taking personal shots at those who you disagree with.

 

WTF are you talking about? I took no shots at anyone in my last post, and I have made intelligent arguments throughout this entire thread all the while liberals above just give cheap one-liners writing off anything I say as crazy talk while admitting they haven't even bothered to take the three seconds required to read my arguments. Why don't you come down on them for being idiots rather than forming an intelligent argument of their own in response? I'm the only who who has posted anything in this entire with some semblence of reasoning up until F_M's last post.

 

Get the hell off my nuts, thanks.

nah...i read everything you typed on this thread...and all i can say is that you and charlie manson would be very dear friends...as for the guns...if you cant kill a man with your own hands, then you should take that gun and shoot yourself first :whistle

It is truly sad how pretentious you are. Someone wants to be responsible for their own safety, and all of a sudden they're Charles Manon? You are sick Jimmy. What in gods name went through your head for you to come to any sort of conclusion like that? You never cease to disgust me with your posts.

 

There is no common sense, logic, or reasoning ability anywhere to be found in your post. If anything encroaches on your wonderful world of love and flowers, you just ignore it and spew BS about the other side.

 

You are close-minded and obviously not open to or capable of any form of intelligent debate. I've made my point above, and any REASONABLE person (i.e. not you) reading the thread will clearly see this. If someone comes in willing to have an intelligent debate such as F_M, I look forward to it, but you need to stop with your BS.