If Johnson ends up being out for a while and we need a 5th starter what happens if Chris Volstad is completely dominant. I know it is very doubtful he gets a chance this early but what happens if he pitches lights out?!

 

Who is in the running for a rotation spot with JJ out? My guess would be between Petit, Garcia, and Mitre (please no to Mitre). Also, hopefully Paul Mildren gets a shot.

Carlos Martinez part 2?

 

dont rush him.

I would rather see Pinto, even though he is a lefty. Between Mitre &Pinto I would like to think, depending on the opposing team's lineup.

No doubt in my mind that it should be Mitre. We all know he is a better starter than reliever and he can do a decent job as a starter.

the papers seem to be suggesting it is between petit, chris george, and mitre (if ready). Freddi seems to like George.

I say either Gabby or George. George has opened some eyes very early in training camp. He is showing that potential that was predicted early in his career. BTW he still is inly 27, he came up with KC at the age of 21, that is why he seems to be almost 103 y/o. Gabby just has looked amazing as well as Volstad but there is no way Volstad is staying with the big club. At best he will go to Double A and be a phone call away. My favorate is Gabby, he is only 20 but he may be ready to make the jump if he shows any consistency in ST. It appears his stuff has been a wonder to see. He can easily win a job

It will be Petit, Mitre, or Garcia

 

there is absolutely no chance that it's Volstad or Gaby

Is it bad that I have absolutely no idea who the hell Chris George is???? :blink:

Is it bad that I have absolutely no idea who the hell Chris George is???? :blink:

 

Not bad at all, in the same boat with you. I have not heard of him either. And I make fun of my wife when she can't remember who our starting catcher is.

It will be Petit or Mitre, if there is anyone.

 

I have heard there is a possibility of going with just a 4 man rotation, since they have the 5th and the 12th off, and they wouldn't need to use a 5th man until the series with the Astros, and hopefully JJ will be ready to go by then.

It will be Petit, Mitre, or Garcia

 

there is absolutely no chance that it's Volstad or Gaby

 

 

No mention of Mitre anywhere but Chris George is making headlines on rotoworld and sportsline.

Is it bad that I have absolutely no idea who the hell Chris George is???? :blink:

Chris George (LHP) was drafted in the 1st round by the Royals in 1998, He came up to the majors in July 2001. He was a starter with KC until 2004. His best season was 2003 when he was 9-6

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/georgch02.shtml

Mitre if healthy

this is a huge stretch..

It will be Petit, Mitre, or Garcia

 

there is absolutely no chance that it's Volstad or Gaby

 

 

No mention of Mitre anywhere but Chris George is making headlines on rotoworld and sportsline.

Sergio Mitre-R- Marlins Feb. 25 - 10:54 am et

 

 

Sergio Mitre, who would be the favorite to replace an ailing Josh Johnson in Florida's rotation, is being brought along slowly after last year's shoulder troubles.

The Marlins haven't given any indication that he's had a set back, so it's unclear what the hold up is here. Mitre was also basically a non-factor at the end of last year, though he spent the rest of the year on the active roster after coming off the DL on Aug. 9. If Mitre isn't going to be ready, either Yusmeiro Petit or Jose Garcia could be the Marlins' fifth starter. A move back to the rotation for Renyel Pinto doesn't appear to be an option.

 

rotoworld :whistle

mitre is awful...can we just release him?

Maybe if this were 2008...

 

But ya I have no problem with Mitre starting.

 

Hopefully this JJ will be able to come in sometime in April though.

mitre is awful...can we just release him?

:lol

mitre is awful...can we just release him?

:lol

 

I agree with Jimmy here. I followed Nolasco and Pinto over here to you guys(I am an Iowan).

 

My Cubbies couldnt get Mitre out of the organization fast enough. And with our recent history as far as pitching goes, that should tell you something. We were all overjoyed that we would no longer have to watch Mitre go out there and destroy any chance we had of winning.

 

Your front office should cut bait with Mitre as quick as they can. As long as he doesnt come back to Chicago, well unless the south side. Let him destroy their hopes and dreams for a while.

 

I see you defend him on here quite often, and honestly Mr. Ramp, I never understand why people defend players that have never done anything at this level but be awful. He was even awful for your Fish last year.

mitre is awful...can we just release him?

:lol

 

I agree with Jimmy here. I followed Nolasco and Pinto over here to you guys(I am an Iowan).

 

My Cubbies couldnt get Mitre out of the organization fast enough. And with our recent history as far as pitching goes, that should tell you something. We were all overjoyed that we would no longer have to watch Mitre go out there and destroy any chance we had of winning.

 

Your front office should cut bait with Mitre as quick as they can. As long as he doesnt come back to Chicago, well unless the south side. Let him destroy their hopes and dreams for a while.

 

I see you defend him on here quite often, and honestly Mr. Ramp, I never understand why people defend players that have never done anything at this level but be awful. He was even awful for your Fish last year.

Here we go. Sergio Mitre

 

Overall record: 1-5 | 5.71era | 1.56whip

 

Let's take a step INSIDE the numbers (insert dramatic music here)

 

He appeared in 15 games in 2006, 7 starts, 8 in relief

 

In one of the starts, he left after 3 pitches, so it's really 6 starts for all intensive purposes.

 

In those 6 starts, he went 1-4 with a 4.89era. With such few starts though, one terrible start could skew all the numbers and that is the case here. On May 5th vs STL, he went 4.1ip giving up 11 hits and surrendering 6 earned runs. Take out just the 1 start and he is 1-3 with a 3.82era.

 

Time to look at his bullpen appearances.

 

He threw 6 innings in the bullpens in his 8 outings. If you recall, his first outing against the Nationals was disastrous, but also he was rushed back from the DL and didnt even have a stint in the minors. In that appearance he gave up 3 runs while recording 0 outs on 0 hits. He was all over the place.

 

He would then go on to throw 6 straight scoreless innings before blowing up vs STL(not to Fredi, do not pitch him vs the Cardinals) and ending his season.

 

Take out his 1 terrible start vs the Cards, his rushed back performance vs the Nats and in last outing vs the Cards(I have a slight feeling he may have been pitching injured in this one) and his numbers arent too shabby

 

36.2 innings pitched | 3.19era | 1.16whip

 

just sayin, his 3 terrible outings clearly overshadowed his entire (injury-plagued)season.

I'll say in Mitre's defense - he made an impression on me when he pitched a CG shutout of us at Wrigley no less in 2005, where we were absolutely massacred.

 

He is not as bad as many seem inclined to say around here. And I'd rather have him then some of the gimps who served as the great hopes for the Cubs in recent years. But I do think that all 5 - Willis, JJ, Olsen, Sanchez, & Nolasco are all better starting pitchers than Mitre. But I'd certainly rather have Mitre be my 6th starter over the Brian Moehler's of the world.

Just for the record, I am also a fan of Mitre. On another note, I was reading on floridamarlins.com, and it sounds like Fredi is setting up the rotation to be Willis, Sanchez, Olsen, and Nolasco, in that order. I also read that with a coupe of off-days in the schedule, it will allow us to go with a four-man rotation for the first few weeks of the season, giving Johnson a bit more time to ease back into the rotation.

mitre is awful...can we just release him?

:lol

 

I agree with Jimmy here. I followed Nolasco and Pinto over here to you guys(I am an Iowan).

 

My Cubbies couldnt get Mitre out of the organization fast enough. And with our recent history as far as pitching goes, that should tell you something. We were all overjoyed that we would no longer have to watch Mitre go out there and destroy any chance we had of winning.

 

Your front office should cut bait with Mitre as quick as they can. As long as he doesnt come back to Chicago, well unless the south side. Let him destroy their hopes and dreams for a while.

 

I see you defend him on here quite often, and honestly Mr. Ramp, I never understand why people defend players that have never done anything at this level but be awful. He was even awful for your Fish last year.

Here we go. Sergio Mitre

 

Overall record: 1-5 | 5.71era | 1.56whip

 

Let's take a step INSIDE the numbers (insert dramatic music here)

 

He appeared in 15 games in 2006, 7 starts, 8 in relief

 

In one of the starts, he left after 3 pitches, so it's really 6 starts for all intensive purposes.

 

In those 6 starts, he went 1-4 with a 4.89era. With such few starts though, one terrible start could skew all the numbers and that is the case here. On May 5th vs STL, he went 4.1ip giving up 11 hits and surrendering 6 earned runs. Take out just the 1 start and he is 1-3 with a 3.82era.

 

Time to look at his bullpen appearances.

 

He threw 6 innings in the bullpens in his 8 outings. If you recall, his first outing against the Nationals was disastrous, but also he was rushed back from the DL and didnt even have a stint in the minors. In that appearance he gave up 3 runs while recording 0 outs on 0 hits. He was all over the place.

 

He would then go on to throw 6 straight scoreless innings before blowing up vs STL(not to Fredi, do not pitch him vs the Cardinals) and ending his season.

 

Take out his 1 terrible start vs the Cards, his rushed back performance vs the Nats and in last outing vs the Cards(I have a slight feeling he may have been pitching injured in this one) and his numbers arent too shabby

 

36.2 innings pitched | 3.19era | 1.16whip

 

just sayin, his 3 terrible outings clearly overshadowed his entire (injury-plagued)season.

 

Ok, if you are going to take out that 1 start against St. Louis, that in your opinion skews the #s out of Mitre's favor, you have to take out the game that skews the #s IN Mitre's favor. The start against Houston.

 

Taking out those two games, against St. Louis and Houston to get a fair analysis, in his other 4 starts, he is 0-3 with a 4.83 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP.

 

That is horrible my friend. When you figure that 3 out of those 4 games are in pitcher-friendly Dolphin Stadium, it is an even more horrible collective performence.

 

I think you are blindly supporting him, because the facts dont support your support of someone who is very bad pitcher. Your team would be much better off without him.

I made an argument for Mitre a month or two ago, where I pointed out that he's never had the opportunity to pitch more than a single month's worth of starts in any major league season. Go take a look at our starting rotation breakdown from last year, and look at their month to month breakdowns. Two or three of those guys had a month or two last season with numbers similar to those of Mitre's. The only difference is, they had four more months to work on correcting those numers.

Look, I don't want him to be the 5th starter for good. But with Johnson ailing, I would not be opposed to giving him a few starts while he gets better. I would rather see Petit or Garcia earn that spot, and allow Mitre to settle into the bullpen. I've watched Sergio and I like his stuff, call it blindly supporting him or whatever but I am in his camp.