I actually preferred Reed, but I guess it doesn't make a difference. Neither is our CF of the future. At least we don't have to hear from reedismaster.

LMAO :notworthy :lol

oh yea you ill be here 4 everrrrrr

does any one know how to be a lifeguard??

where do i start?? at a beach perhaps

I actually preferred Reed, but I guess it doesn't make a difference. Neither is our CF of the future. At least we don't have to hear from reedismaster.

LMAO :notworthy :lol

oh yea you ill be here 4 everrrrrr

does any one know how to be a lifeguard??

where do i start?? at a beach perhaps

 

 

I wanted Reed to win the job. I believe he got screwed but I agree that neither of these guys are the long term solution so you might as well put the guy in there who has the most upside (DeAza). Reed will have a huge year in AAA and I'm sure we will see him at some point this season. I watched Reed play D this spring and he looked very good out there. I hope DeAza can play good D also (haven't seen him patrol center yet).

How is De Aza's defense? Whenever I go to a game Reed or Sanchez is always starting.

For a while now Freddi has been saying that he likes having De Aza in the lineup because of his intangibles. Alejandro definitely has the most upside, but hopefully we're not rushing him to the bigs to soon. (I still like this move, because selfishly I want to see what he's able to do.)

 

I think this shows that the chatter suggesting managers are hired to be yes men to Beinfest and serve little other purpose and that Admin makes every decision from filling out the lineup cards to what color jocks the player's wear was and is baloney. Fredi has been touting this guy for awhile now. This was clearly first and foremost his choice. Like FreshFish, when I first heard Fredi talking the kid up on the radio a couple of weeks ago there was something in his tone that resonated his appreciation for what De Aza was doing. And every time from then on he spoke on the subject of CF, either on air or quoted in the press, DeAza's name was always prominent in his comments.

 

That said De Aza was also in the right place at the right time and to his credit put on an exemplary showcasing of his talents. It didn't hurt that other teams who were expected to have surplus centerfielders and ultimately didn't for one reason or another may have kept the Marlins from acquiring one of the many young CFer linked to the Fish this off-season, and the fact that Reed is being sent down and Ross is still with the team, says the GM is not done tinkering with the active roster. And he's quoted today as much as saying so. What's happened is De Aza has been given the Opening Day job, that doesn't mean the front office is done looking for outfield upgrades.

 

I was surprised Rodriguez was sent packaging, at least today with so many teams scrambling for one more reliever to round out their pens, conceivably he had some value somewhere, but perhaps he had an out in his arrangement, written or oral, about giving him a chance to catch on elsewhere before the season started as Koplove did.

he did great but i just hope they didnt push him too quickly??????? anyway, i was pulling for sanchez but now hes gone and i am very dissappointed that they released Felix Rodriguez...he did great..

(I heard that NEWS.)

 

Someone talk about "a Backlash",

but, I wish it will be a Cinderella ending.

 

Congratulation. De Aza,

Welcome to Dolphins Stadium.

While I will be rooting for him, he isn't ready for the show yet. He is going to struggle mightily in his first few months before being sent down. Then again, I don't believe Eric Reed would have done much better. I am not expecting anything from De Aza. I like him as a prospect, but he needs more time. If I am wrong, I will eat a truckload of crow.

 

What a terrible off season

I can say this now because he's no longer with the team but I used to attend some of Sanchez' practices late last summer in Miami with a group of former major and minor leaguers who are now coaches and the like around South Florida. The guy worked his freakin' a** off and I know how hard he worked for this, and to see him fail so utterly really pains me. The way he was swinging the bat last year and then in the winter league, to not even hit his weight really has been a surprise. He was capable of so much more.

 

Alot of people here were for their own reasons were very down on the guy from the second he signed on but no one worked harder to turn his career around than this guy. I have no complaints, no excuses, he didn't deserve to make the team after his performance this spring, but it wasn't from a lack of trying or a lack of talent. Alot of guys underperformed this spring but in his case he needed to excel and he didn't, he didn't even come close.

 

In the end it just didn't work out.

We're trying to catch lightning in a bottle. I'm glad to see that he earned it and hopefully he will do well.

While I will be rooting for him, he isn't ready for the show yet. He is going to struggle mightily in his first few months before being sent down. Then again, I don't believe Eric Reed would have done much better. I am not expecting anything from De Aza. I like him as a prospect, but he needs more time. If I am wrong, I will eat a truckload of crow.

 

What a terrible off season

Eh, as you say he'll probably put up just as good numbers as Reed would. If De Aza fails I trust that will be enough incentive for the front office to actually go out and find a permanent solution. Unless De Aza puts up solid numbers this season there is a chance he might not be a regular with this club to any capacity in the future.

 

That's what I'm worried about. This seems like a desperation pull of a 22 year old kid, and these things usually end up being a "do or die" kind of situation, so for De Aza's sake, I really hope he performs decently, so he is given the chance to do it again.

At least it's not Sanchez.

I hate it and I'll tell you why:

 

1) This is just too much too soon for De Aza. For every Dan Uggla story, there's a Logan Kensing head-case that rushing will create.

 

2) This means we're committed to De Aza for at least a year...at least. I find it slightly nauseating that we can say, with a straight face, that he's our future in center-field.

 

I don't like the fact that it seems we've made our bed with De Aza. I was hoping against all hope that we'd just bite the bullet and trade for a center-fielder, maybe pull Tampa's head out of it's ass or the White Sox or Mariners, but now we're here, and this is going to be the status quo going forward.

 

Terrible terrible decision (and this has nothing to do with De Aza...I'm actually glad to see him get a chance, but the Marlins organizational history suggests that this is a bad move for the team).

Sanchez has been released and Reed has been sent to AAA

 

Other moves today include:

 

The Marlins further trimmed their roster on Wednesday by releasing relievers Felix Rodriguez and Mike Koplove and re-assigning catcher Paul Hoover, infielder Zach Sorensen and reliever Roy Corcoran to minor-league camp.

 

The Marlins also informed reliever Taylor Tankersley and right fielder Jeremy Hermida that they would start the year on the disabled list.

 

The moves essentially reduce the competition to two open spots for position players, with infielder Jason Wood and outfielders Cody Ross and John Gall vying for those openings.

 

LINK

I hate it and I'll tell you why:

 

1) This is just too much too soon for De Aza. For every Dan Uggla story, there's a Logan Kensing head-case that rushing will create.

 

2) This means we're committed to De Aza for at least a year...at least. I find it slightly nauseating that we can say, with a straight face, that he's our future in center-field.

 

I don't like the fact that it seems we've made our bed with De Aza. I was hoping against all hope that we'd just bite the bullet and trade for a center-fielder, maybe pull Tampa's head out of it's ass or the White Sox or Mariners, but now we're here, and this is going to be the status quo going forward.

 

Terrible terrible decision (and this has nothing to do with De Aza...I'm actually glad to see him get a chance, but the Marlins organizational history suggests that this is a bad move for the team).

 

Hmm. Don't understand the doom and gloom here. And can't understand your logic either.

 

As you said "De Aza is not our CF for the future". . . why do you care if this experiment fails? Sanchez didn't cut it, and we know what we can get out of Reed (which is not much).

 

Are you upset we are starting De Aza or are you upset we haven't traded for a "legit" CF?

Are you upset we are starting De Aza or are you upset we haven't traded for a "legit" CF?

in my case, it's mostly the legit CF part

Wow, I'm pleasantly surprised. I hope they're not rushing Aza but he really stepped up this spring & made an impression so maybe he's ready for the job.

 

Surprised they sent Reed down though, figured he'd be a 5th outfielder at least.

 

So let's see, Hammer-Aza-Borchard in the OF, Ross & Gall on the bench and one goes down when Hermida comes back I guess?

Cody may not be around much longer

I hate it and I'll tell you why:

 

1) This is just too much too soon for De Aza. For every Dan Uggla story, there's a Logan Kensing head-case that rushing will create.

 

2) This means we're committed to De Aza for at least a year...at least. I find it slightly nauseating that we can say, with a straight face, that he's our future in center-field.

 

I don't like the fact that it seems we've made our bed with De Aza. I was hoping against all hope that we'd just bite the bullet and trade for a center-fielder, maybe pull Tampa's head out of it's ass or the White Sox or Mariners, but now we're here, and this is going to be the status quo going forward.

 

Terrible terrible decision (and this has nothing to do with De Aza...I'm actually glad to see him get a chance, but the Marlins organizational history suggests that this is a bad move for the team).

 

Hmm. Don't understand the doom and gloom here. And can't understand your logic either.

 

As you said "De Aza is not our CF for the future". . . why do you care if this experiment fails? Sanchez didn't cut it, and we know what we can get out of Reed (which is not much).

 

Are you upset we are starting De Aza or are you upset we haven't traded for a "legit" CF?

 

Because Beinfest is glacial when addressing an error he made.

 

Essentially, it's either you believe De Aza's 2007 is going to be gang-busters, or terrible. Due to the "rush factor" I'm more inclined to believe his '07 will be terrible.

 

Then, knowing Beinfest, we're going to have De Aza for most if not all of the '07 season in center.

 

Ergo, I believe we're going to have another abysmal output from centerfield.

 

So, to conclude, I'd say my frustration is that we didn't get a "legit" center-fielder, and that judging by past comments made about De Aza, we're not going to be getting one any time soon either.

 

Look, I'll be the happiest person in the world if De Aza succeeds or if Beinfest has a quick leash with him, but if I were forced to wager, I'd bet heavily against both.

Are you upset we are starting De Aza or are you upset we haven't traded for a "legit" CF?

in my case, it's mostly the legit CF part

 

Asked not at all facetiously, what was the trade we didn't do that we could have done to acquire a "legit" CFer? Without disclosing anything you can't was there one or are you just frustrated nothing came to fruition? And I'm not talking about any of the stupid Upton for fillintheblank starting pitcher (not to mention throwing in a prospect too) or Rios for Olsen or any of those make good reading but lacking common sense deals.

 

You need two willing teams to make a trade, I'm guessing lots of proposals went back and forth with lots of teams, but was there one you think we could of/had every chance to pull the trigger on that has you so agitated?

I hate it and I'll tell you why:

 

1) This is just too much too soon for De Aza. For every Dan Uggla story, there's a Logan Kensing head-case that rushing will create.

 

2) This means we're committed to De Aza for at least a year...at least. I find it slightly nauseating that we can say, with a straight face, that he's our future in center-field.

 

I don't like the fact that it seems we've made our bed with De Aza. I was hoping against all hope that we'd just bite the bullet and trade for a center-fielder, maybe pull Tampa's head out of it's ass or the White Sox or Mariners, but now we're here, and this is going to be the status quo going forward.

 

Terrible terrible decision (and this has nothing to do with De Aza...I'm actually glad to see him get a chance, but the Marlins organizational history suggests that this is a bad move for the team).

Swift decisions can't be made based on "history" but on an individual basis in relation to the whole team perspective. I actually am very content with the chance they are giving the kid. He has everything we are looking for from our CF. I was surprised in the sense he would be sent down only for more 'seasoning" I love the way the kid plays the game. It is finally a decision with some cojones! I hope it works out and he has a fine season

 

I would be happy with .250 AVG 25-30 SBs 80-85 runs out of the 8th spot

I hate it and I'll tell you why:

 

1) This is just too much too soon for De Aza. For every Dan Uggla story, there's a Logan Kensing head-case that rushing will create.

 

2) This means we're committed to De Aza for at least a year...at least. I find it slightly nauseating that we can say, with a straight face, that he's our future in center-field.

 

I don't like the fact that it seems we've made our bed with De Aza. I was hoping against all hope that we'd just bite the bullet and trade for a center-fielder, maybe pull Tampa's head out of it's ass or the White Sox or Mariners, but now we're here, and this is going to be the status quo going forward.

 

Terrible terrible decision (and this has nothing to do with De Aza...I'm actually glad to see him get a chance, but the Marlins organizational history suggests that this is a bad move for the team).

Swift decisions can't be made based on "history" but on an individual basis in relation to the whole team perspective. I actually am very content with the chance they are giving the kid. He has everything we are looking for from our CF. I was surprised in the sense he would be sent down only for more 'seasoning" I love the way the kid plays the game. It is finally a decision with some cojones! I hope it works out and he has a fine season

 

I would be happy with .250 AVG 25-30 SBs 80-85 runs out of the 8th spot

 

I agree. It would have been very easy to hand the job to Reed. I'd much rather take the risk on finding something special. If it works, great, we found a long term answer in CF. If it doesn't work, we still need to find a CF for the future, but we'd be in that same position even if Reed had won the job.

im gonna laugh if de aza is OMGNunez after the spring.

 

hope he does well though, i want to be competing in october this year and to do so you need to have a pretty well-rounded team.

(and don't flame me for saying i want to compete in october.)

Are you upset we are starting De Aza or are you upset we haven't traded for a "legit" CF?

in my case, it's mostly the legit CF part

 

Asked not at all facetiously, what was the trade we didn't do that we could have done to acquire a "legit" CFer? Without disclosing anything you can't was there one or are you just frustrated nothing came to fruition? And I'm not talking about any of the stupid Upton for fillintheblank starting pitcher (not to mention throwing in a prospect too) or Rios for Olsen or any of those make good reading but lacking common sense deals.

 

You need two willing teams to make a trade, I'm guessing lots of proposals went back and forth with lots of teams, but was there one you think we could of/had every chance to pull the trigger on that has you so agitated?

I know there were deals on the table, but the Marlins just didn't want to give up any of their arms. It really annoys me that we just hoard are arms like no other. I felt like we needed a CFer to take this team to the next level. A blue chip CF and to not give up 2-3-4 arms with great upside agitates me. We are the first or second most stacked farm in the entire league. Hell our Single A starting rotation is an all prospect team.

 

It seems like every other team can go out and get what they need. For some reason, we couldn't. You say it takes two teams willing to make a trade, and you're 100% right about that. Unfortunately, this team showed a lack of cojones this offseason. Go out and trade a Johnson or a West or a Hernandez for a Granderson or Milledge or Young or Upton. I'm not saying those things were discussed, and I'm not saying they weren't. But with the team really needing one thing(I have felt all along the bullpen will be improved), we totally dropped the ball.

I'm happy he got the job. I can't wait to follow him this season.

I guess he earned in spring more than the other candidates(like that was really much of a challenge ), but I don't think he's ready, and I think rushing him will hurt both his career and the Marlin team this year.

Uggla was just on 790 raving about De Aza, which one might say is to be expected from a teammate, but he said (quoting as close as I can get) "...alot of people weren't aware of him before this season but will be by the end of the season, I'll guarantee you that..."

 

He also went on and on about is middle infield partner and how Ramirez is destined for greatness.