June 9, 200719 yr Yeah, I saw that JD Drew did that, thankfully I dropped him two weeks ago rather than today or I'd be pissed. Hopefully he gets hot and goes on a roll.
June 9, 200719 yr Miguel Olivo for 2m was pretty bad... really? who else could the marlins have got? he's a catcher with 24 RBI's. not a bad signing.
June 9, 200719 yr Drew by a mile. Pierre second. Actually the Dodgers are pretty happy with JP The worse f/a signing was not in the off-season but just recently. The Yankees signing Clemens was totally unnecessary and expensive. Their season is over! They won't catch the Red Sox or anyone in the Wild Card Race. They could win 90 games and not make the play-offs
June 9, 200719 yr Drew by a mile. Pierre second. Actually the Dodgers are pretty happy with JP The worse f/a signing was not in the off-season but just recently. The Yankees signing Clemens was totally unnecessary and expensive. Their season is over! They won't catch the Red Sox or anyone in the Wild Card Race. They could win 90 games and not make the play-offs JP was benched two games ago. I don't know how you can say they're happy with him. I also don't know how you can say the Yankees are out of it. They're 5.5 games behind the Tigers. That's nothing.
June 9, 200719 yr Author Drew by a mile. Pierre second. Actually the Dodgers are pretty happy with JP The worse f/a signing was not in the off-season but just recently. The Yankees signing Clemens was totally unnecessary and expensive. Their season is over! They won't catch the Red Sox or anyone in the Wild Card Race. They could win 90 games and not make the play-offs JP was benched two games ago. I don't know how you can say they're happy with him. I also don't know how you can say the Yankees are out of it. They're 5.5 games behind the Tigers. That's nothing. Isnt that closer than the marlins are? You cant say clemens is terrible, he hasnt even played yet. Either way its just a one year deal so no matter what he does it isnt that bad. The yankees are playing better lately. there is no reason to think they cant get on a role, just look at their roster. Anyway as marlins fans we should be cheering for them the next 10 days or so. They play arizona and the mets.
June 9, 200719 yr Like I've said before no 1-year deal the Yankees give out will ever be considered a 'bad deal'. The cash means nothing to them.
June 9, 200719 yr Author Like I've said before no 1-year deal the Yankees give out will ever be considered a 'bad deal'. The cash means nothing to them. For a lot of the big boys, one year deals really dont mean much.
June 10, 200719 yr Yeah, I saw that JD Drew did that, thankfully I dropped him two weeks ago rather than today or I'd be pissed. Hopefully he gets hot and goes on a roll. I have him on my fantasy team and kept him on the bench. This morning I decided to put hinm in the starting lineup today :cool
June 10, 200719 yr I never said that Clemens was gonna be terrible. I said he would be meaningless. Anything can happen but I don't believe they will have the pitching depth to surpass Detroit and Oakland, even if they could beat out the Mariners and the Twins. BTW Pierre was given the night off He started last nite and is in the lineup tonite. He is hitting 8th with Furcal leading off not a bad thing IMO. If that is your definition of being benched.... If not then Dude double check your facts please I am sorry Polo I don't mean to be rough on you but it is totally wrong to say pierre has been benched
June 10, 200719 yr I don't pull stuff out of my rear end guys here is what I was saying about Pierre http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/news/art...jsp&c_id=la Notes: Pierre slides down in order 06/09/2007 10:15 PM ET By Jayson Addcox / MLB.com LOS ANGELES -- Dodgers manager Grady Little decided to shuffle the lineup again on Saturday, placing leadoff batter Juan Pierre in the eighth spot, with Rafael Furcal assuming leadoff and Tony Abreu taking Furcal's second spot. Little said the decision was based on Pierre's lack of production at the top of the order. Pierre is batting .270, but his on-base percentage is .297, low for a leadoff guy. According to Little, the Dodgers need him to get on base more frequently. "Hopefully we can get him going. He's been searching lately, trying to get going and working hard as heck," Little said. "He knows that he needs to be a little better with that on-base percentage. We need him to get on base and score runs." Pierre admitted that he wasn't thrilled about the move to the bottom of the order, but he did acknowledge that he wasn't getting on base as much as he needs to. "I don't know. I'm not the manager," said Pierre, when asked what he thought of the lineup shuffle. "Grady is a different type of manager. He moves guys around the way he feels he needs to." Little did not speak to Pierre before making the lineup adjustment but said he spoke to him about his low on-base percentage in San Diego during the series with the Padres. "We didn't talk about it today, but we talked about it considerably the other day in San Diego," Little said. "Hopefully he will get going, I feel like he will. History shows that he gets it done, but right now we need some people to get on base in that order." Little said he was not down on Pierre, but instead he said he was looking to get his speedy center fielder going. Pierre hit .292 with a .330 on base percentage for the Chicago Cubs last season and has a career .347 on-base percentage. "Like I said, I know I'm batting .270 and I know I'm not getting on base the way I should," Pierre said. "It's a new city; people only see what they've seen so far. I know I've struggled before and I know I can get out of this thing." Little said once Pierre starts to get it going he would probably move him back up to the top of the order
June 10, 200719 yr I never said that Clemens was gonna be terrible. I said he would be meaningless. Anything can happen but I don't believe they will have the pitching depth to surpass Detroit and Oakland, even if they could beat out the Mariners and the Twins. BTW Pierre was given the night off He started last nite and is in the lineup tonite. He is hitting 8th with Furcal leading off not a bad thing IMO. If that is your definition of being benched.... If not then Dude double check your facts please I am sorry Polo I don't mean to be rough on you but it is totally wrong to say pierre has been benched The facts are: - JP was benched on Friday due to poor performance - JP was moved down to the 8th spot on Saturday - JP was pinch hit for in a one run game in the bottom of the 9th on Saturday I still don't know how it is you can say the Dodgers are happy with JP.
June 10, 200719 yr from yahoo sports: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=An6r...o&type=lgns All-Overpaid C: Jason Kendall, Oakland, $13.43 million ? Might as well start with the worst contract in all of baseball. How Kendall parlayed 55 home runs and decent peripherals into a six-year, $60 million deal from Pittsburgh before the 2002 season is mystifying. Even though the Pirates are paying $5.5 million of Kendall's salary, Oakland is shoveling nearly $8 million toward a .182 hitter with two extra-base hits (both doubles) in 165 at-bats. 1B: Carlos Delgado, New York Mets, $14.5 million ? Yes, he's heating up. Two home runs Saturday and Tuesday give him seven this season. And yet even with Delgado's surge, his slugging percentage is under .400 and his on-base percentage hovering around .300. This could just as easily have been Seattle's Richie Sexson, who is hitting .199, getting on base less than 30 percent of the time and making $15.5 million. 2B: Craig Biggio, Houston, $5.15 million ? His march to 3,000 hits has turned into a waterless crawl across the Gobi. Biggio is hitting .207 in May, including one hit in his last 16 at-bats. In the Baseball Prospectus metric Fielding Runs Above Average, which measures players defensively against their peers, Biggio is minus-5, among the worst at his position in the game. Biggio was a great player. Biggio will be a Hall of Famer. Right now, Biggio isn't worth much at all. SS: Julio Lugo, Boston, $8.25 million ? To bat No. 1 in the powerful Red Sox lineup ? the one that ranks third in the major leagues in scoring ? and have only 26 runs through 48 games is embarrassing. Lugo can run (15 stolen bases) and field (though not as well as the man he replaced, Alex Gonzalez), but his inability to get on base has prevented the Red Sox from dominating even more than they already have. 3B: Scott Rolen, St. Louis, $12.31 million ? Take away Rolen's 5-for-6 game April 22 and he's hitting .207 with one home run and 16 RBIs. A horrible skid at the end of April bled into May, and Rolen really hasn't recovered, as his .665 OPS (on-base-plus slugging) ranks 152nd of 179 players that qualify. OF: Garret Anderson, Los Angeles Angels, $11.6 million ? Years of wear and tear have rendered Anderson punchless. Never one to draw a walk, Anderson has done just that this year: taken a single walk among 95 at-bats, as large a sign as any of his strain to hit. He hasn't done that, either, with only one home run. The saddest part: All of his at-bats this year have come from the Angels' cleanup spot. OF: Bobby Abreu, New York Yankees, $15 million ? Finally, the Abreu envisioned by Tampa Bay when it traded him for Kevin Stocker shows up. In nearly 200 at-bats, Abreu has eight extra-base hits. After eight consecutive seasons drawing 100-plus walks, he'll be lucky if he gets to 75 this year. To put it succinctly: Abreu's Value Over Replacement Player is minus-4.2, which means that a complete scrub would have been of more value to the Yankees thus far. OF: J.D. Drew, Boston, $14.4 million ? And to think, the Red Sox are on the hook for four more years of this. Drew's batting average has vacillated between awful and abysmal, he left any semblance of power back in Los Angeles and, if not for the Red Sox's dominance, he'd be hearing boos all the way from Maine. DH: Shea Hillenbrand, Los Angeles Angels, $6 million ? Complete and utter dead weight, Hillenbrand hasn't hit, is embarrassing in the field and seems contractually obligated not to take a walk. There are higher-paid designated hitters performing poorly, but no one is as bad as Hillenbrand. SP: Carl Pavano, New York Yankees, $10 million ? Captain Carl earned stewardship of this illustrious bunch by winning a total of five games over the life of his four-year, $39.5 million deal. He'll soon undergo Tommy John surgery, which will keep him out until at least the middle of next season and allow him to attend his induction into the Bad Contract Hall of Fame, where he'll be joined by Darren Dreifort and Chan Ho Park. SP: Barry Zito, San Francisco, $10 million ? Next year it's $14.5 million. Then three years at $18.5 million. And then $19 million. And finally $20 million. We might as well save a seat, because 30 walks and 32 strikeouts in 61 1/3 innings does not portend good things. SP: Matt Clement, Boston, $9.5 million ? Like Pavano, only he pitched for a year and a half. Most notable for having been tagged with the nickname "HazMatt." About as likely to wear a Red Sox uniform again as Ted Williams. SP: Jeff Weaver, Seattle, $8.33 million ? Welcome back! Weaver is the lone returnee from last year's team. Somehow he hoodwinked the Mariners into paying him the same salary the Angels wasted last year before Weaver somehow turned into a postseason savior for St. Louis. Well, the carriage is a pumpkin again, and Weaver is 0-6 with a 14.32 earned-run average and on the disabled list for the first time in his nine-year career. SP: Mike Hampton, Atlanta, $14.5 million ? Quite a year for Hampton. After missing 2006 recovering from Tommy John surgery, he hurt his oblique during spring training. Then, during a rehabilitation session, he tore the flexor tendon in his left elbow and will miss the rest of this year. Added bonus: His salary jumps to $15 million next year, and the Braves will have to spend another $6 million in '09 to buy him out of a $20 million option. Mr. Hampton, we'll keep your seat warm, too. RP: Armando Benitez, Florida, $9.7 million ? Benitez blew a game last week. He gave up two runs in a 5-3 loss. Afterward, he said: "I'm doing my job." Just to repeat, he makes $9.7 million. RP: Danys Baez, Baltimore $5.67 million ? Part of the Orioles' effort to rebuild their bullpen, Baez has been relegated to mop-up duty after giving up runs in six of his last seven outings. With an 0-4 record and 6.35 ERA, Baez looks more like a Baltimore reliever, circa '06. RP: B.J. Ryan, Toronto, $7 million ? Ryan was a bargain. Then he blew out his left elbow. Now he's not. RP: Scott Eyre, Chicago Cubs, $3.83 million ? What is worse: Eyre allowing 41 baserunners in 16 1/3 innings this season or Cubs manager Lou Piniella trotting him again and again only to see him fail?
June 10, 200719 yr I never said that Clemens was gonna be terrible. I said he would be meaningless. Anything can happen but I don't believe they will have the pitching depth to surpass Detroit and Oakland, even if they could beat out the Mariners and the Twins. BTW Pierre was given the night off He started last nite and is in the lineup tonite. He is hitting 8th with Furcal leading off not a bad thing IMO. If that is your definition of being benched.... If not then Dude double check your facts please I am sorry Polo I don't mean to be rough on you but it is totally wrong to say pierre has been benched I highly, highly doubt that the Dodgers are happy with Pierre's 63 OPS+. Thats absolutely awful. Thats Reggie Abercrombie-esque. The only people who should be happy with Pierre production are the teams who get to play against him every night. He's a bad baseball player.
June 10, 200719 yr I never said that Clemens was gonna be terrible. I said he would be meaningless. Anything can happen but I don't believe they will have the pitching depth to surpass Detroit and Oakland, even if they could beat out the Mariners and the Twins. BTW Pierre was given the night off He started last nite and is in the lineup tonite. He is hitting 8th with Furcal leading off not a bad thing IMO. If that is your definition of being benched.... If not then Dude double check your facts please I am sorry Polo I don't mean to be rough on you but it is totally wrong to say pierre has been benched The facts are: - JP was benched on Friday due to poor performance - JP was moved down to the 8th spot on Saturday - JP was pinch hit for in a one run game in the bottom of the 9th on Saturday I still don't know how it is you can say the Dodgers are happy with JP. By your definition Hanley Ramirez was "benched" last Sunday I was the one that brought up that he was dropped in the order you just said he was benched as if he is now riding the pine... Polo who is the Dodgers starting CF? Information all shows as JP being their starter. Therefore your comment was inaccurate. BTW Pierre prior to last week was hitting around .285. of course he is not taking any walks, by year's end he will be around .300 but with OBP of .330. That is what you get with JP. The Dodgers were smart enough to bat him 8th where he will be just fine. Furcal should also be fine as a leadoff hitter for them. All in all they have been smarter in how to use JP
June 11, 200719 yr Instead of the bad signings, we could create a much shorter thread by listing the one's that appear to be working reasonably well. The truth is, the Cubs look bad right now, but it's not all because their free agents have done poorly, most of them, at least until recently, have done reasonably well. It's just that they are the cubs. But they still got a guy in Soriano who is going to be a well above average hitter for years locked up for a long time, and for all we know he could be a centerpiece for many playoff teams. The reality of some free agent signings is that teams like Kansas City and the Cubs desperately need someone to provide reasonable stability to their rotations, which can have a positive effect on the play of other team members, so they overpay for mid-level guy who really don't deserve what they are getting.
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