There is a lot of chatter being heard that Olivo is being shopped and Treanor would be assuming everyday catching duties through the end of the season. Those who love Baker would soon see what he brings to the table as a ballplayer

I hope you're right but I doubt it's true.

I hope you're right but I doubt it's true.

Don't expect to get much back if anything this is more of a Kim type of move IMO

I hope you're right but I doubt it's true.

Don't expect to get much back if anything this is more of a Kim type of move IMO

Fine with me.

Fine with me. Olivo really has no done much this year. Yea he does get big hits once in a while but that should be "normal". I would love to give Shake N Bake a shot.

There is a lot of chatter being heard that Olivo is being shopped and Treanor would be assuming everyday catching duties through the end of the season. Those who love Baker would soon see what he brings to the table as a ballplayer

where are you hearing this?

I'd be happy with a move like this. Lord knows why this guy was given the amount of money he was in the offseason. IMHO this should have been done before the Kim move.

Lord knows why this guy was given the amount of money he was in the offseason.

 

 

He was coming off a year where he had a .727 OPS, plus has a lot of physical talents (One of if not the fastest catchers, one of the strongest arms in the league).

 

Should have taken him to arbitration, but catchers who put up a year like he did in '06 get more money then he made this year.

Lord knows why this guy was given the amount of money he was in the offseason.

 

 

He was coming off a year where he had a .727 OPS, plus has a lot of physical talents (One of if not the fastest catchers, one of the strongest arms in the league).

 

Should have taken him to arbitration, but catchers who put up a year like he did in '06 get more money then he made this year.

Bingo!

Even if we won, he would still be making money close to 2m

I am not ready to give up on Olivo just yet, I think he'll get it together for next season, and I seriously think these rumors are totally false!

I am not ready to give up on Olivo just yet, I think he'll get it together for next season, and I seriously think these rumors are totally false!

 

I agree. i think he has all the talent in the world to be a great cathcer but his hitting needs to improve especially with bunting, strikeouts and pitch recognition. His speed and arm are great and he really plays the plate well. His power numbers are decent but i think he can turn it around.

I am not ready to give up on Olivo just yet, I think he'll get it together for next season, and I seriously think these rumors are totally false!

 

I agree. i think he has all the talent in the world to be a great cathcer but his hitting needs to improve especially with bunting, strikeouts and pitch recognition. His speed and arm are great and he really plays the plate well. His power numbers are decent but i think he can turn it around.

I am with both of you. I think his arm is severely under-rated and he has more pop than your average catcher. I think his most obvious downside is handling lefties but I think he can continue to improve on that. Now if he only had Jobu to help him hit curveball.

can't teach an old dog new tricks

 

he is what he is

 

let's give JBake a look

I am not ready to give up on Olivo just yet, I think he'll get it together for next season, and I seriously think these rumors are totally false!

 

I agree. i think he has all the talent in the world to be a great cathcer but his hitting needs to improve especially with bunting, strikeouts and pitch recognition. His speed and arm are great and he really plays the plate well. His power numbers are decent but i think he can turn it around.

I am with both of you. I think his arm is severely under-rated and he has more pop than your average catcher. I think his most obvious downside is handling lefties but I think he can continue to improve on that. Now if he only had Jobu to help him hit curveball.

 

I think all three of you don't see what you are talking. He was ok last year and terrible this year. I am not interested in another hairbrained "Orestes Destrade, let's give him a shot" move and hope he comes around. He had his chance lets move on and get some real talent in the black hole that is the catching position. Frankly, I have been wondering why the attention has been on centerfield. De Aza is good he has just been injured and Amezega has been a good fill in. The REAL issue with the line up offensively has been catcher (despite the fact that the offense is the only thing working right now on this team even though the situational hitting sucks). However, I agree we won't get much for him if anything. In fact, I don't see any takers. Meaning, he'll probably remain with the club for the rest of the year unless they cut him or sent him down.

I am not ready to give up on Olivo just yet, I think he'll get it together for next season, and I seriously think these rumors are totally false!

 

I agree. i think he has all the talent in the world to be a great cathcer but his hitting needs to improve especially with bunting, strikeouts and pitch recognition. His speed and arm are great and he really plays the plate well. His power numbers are decent but i think he can turn it around.

I am with both of you. I think his arm is severely under-rated and he has more pop than your average catcher. I think his most obvious downside is handling lefties but I think he can continue to improve on that. Now if he only had Jobu to help him hit curveball.

 

I think all three of you don't see what you are talking about. He was ok last year and terrible this year. I am not interested in another hairbrained "Orestes Destrade, let's give him a shot" move and hope he comes around. He had his chance lets move on and get some real talent in the black hole that is the catching position. Frankly, I have been wondering why the attention has been on centerfield. De Aza is good he has just been injured and Amezega has been a good fill in. The REAL issue with the line up offensively has been catcher (despite the fact that the offense is the only thing working right now on this team even though the situational hitting sucks). However, I agree we won't get much for him if anything. In fact, I don't see any takers. Meaning, he'll probably remain with the club for the rest of the year unless they cut him or sent him down.

Not really sure you can say De Aza is good yet

There is a lot of chatter being heard that Olivo is being shopped and Treanor would be assuming everyday catching duties through the end of the season. Those who love Baker would soon see what he brings to the table as a ballplayer

where are you hearing this?

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Mike Phillips has indicated that he was being shopped through the deadline I believe i read somewhere else he is still being shopped I will look it up

can't teach an old dog new tricks

 

he is what he is

 

let's give JBake a look

Yep. I don't think anyone is disagreeing that his arm is phenomenal but it's just not good enough to warrant keeping him in the lineup.

 

His walk to strikeout ratio is scary.

Yes, Treaner is serviceable, and can probably take over the position if Olivo departs, but I can't help but see so much potencial within Miguel Olivo, I have a feeling he'll turn it around for next year, I don't know but I have that gut feeling, he has all the potencial in the world, plus I am not so high on J Baker!

We're not going anywhere, what would it hurt to see what some of these other guys have got.

Might just be that it's Scotty on the mound, but Treanor is starting today. :mis2

 

edit: also just hit me that it's a day game after an extra inning night game, lol....so yeah, doubt any correlation

Please make it happen! I agree with alot of the other posters, it would be fine with me if really didnt get anything in return just like the Kim deal.

i bet olivo has already passed through waivers. why would anyone want to add a loser to their team? maybe there's a handful of teams where he could compete for the starting job. but he hits .230 and is way below average defensively.

and if that one link is all there is, i don't see how the trade rumors are loud about him now. he's garbage and we're gonna be stuck with him.