Guest Night Phantom Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Parted-at-birth twins 'married' A pair of twins who were adopted by separate families as babies got married without knowing they were brother and sister, a peer told the House of Lords. A court annulled the British couple's union after they discovered their true relationship, Lord Alton said. The peer - who was told of the case by a High Court judge involved - said the twins felt an "inevitable attraction". He said the case showed how important it was for children to be able to find out about their biological parents. Details of the identities of the twins involved have been kept secret, but Lord Alton said the pair did not realise they were related until after their marriage. 'Truth will out' The former Liberal Democrat MP raised the couple's case during a House of Lords debate on the Human Fertility and Embryology Bill in December. "They were never told that they were twins," he told the Lords. "They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction, and the judge had to deal with the consequences of the marriage that they entered into and all the issues of their separation." He told the BBC News website that their story raises the wider issue of the importance of strengthening the rights of children to know the identities of their biological parents. We are naturally drawn to people who are quite similar to ourselves Pam Hodgkins Adults Affected by Adoption "If you start trying to conceal someone's identity, sooner or later the truth will out," he said. "And if you don't know you are biologically related to someone, you may become attracted to them and tragedies like this may occur." Pam Hodgkins, chief executive officer of the charity Adults Affected by Adoption (NORCAP) said there had been previous cases of separated siblings being attracted to each other. "We have a resistance, a very strong incest taboo where we are aware that someone is a biological relative," she said. "But when we are unaware of that relationship, we are naturally drawn to people who are quite similar to ourselves. 'Incredibly rare' "And of course there is unlikely to be anyone more similar to any individual than their sibling." Mo O'Reilly, director of child placement for the British Association for Adoption and Fostering, said the situation was traumatic for the people involved, but incredibly rare. "Thirty or 40 years ago it would have been more likely that twins be separated and, brought up without knowledge of each other," she said. Today, however, adopted children grow up with a greater knowledge of their birth families - and organisations try to place brothers and sisters together. If that were not possible, the siblings would still have some form of contact with each other. "This sad case illustrates why, over the last 20-30 years, the shift to openness in adoption was so important," Ms O'Reilly added. Source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpierre Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dude, that just sucks for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchoftheday Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 oh the backwoods ... TTIWWP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I don't see what the big deal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I'd have to pull an Oedipus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dude banged, got blowjobs, and came inside his sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinmemito Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dude banged, got blowjobs, and came inside his sister. Might have also given her anal, tea-bagged her, and God knows what else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Rusty trombone maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmsE Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 bummer for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Makes the family reunions a little uncomfortable, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well, if the girl had her tubes tied so they couldn't have kids, would there really be a problem with them staying together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well, if the girl had her tubes tied so they couldn't have kids, would there really be a problem with them staying together? Do you have any sisters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yes, but I've also known she was my sister for my entire life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yes, but I've also known she was my sister for my entire life Are you getting at the marriage issue or the sex issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Both. If they didn't know anything for a really long time and weren't raised as siblings, it shouldn't really matter if they don't want it to. The concern with incest is the product of the marriage having mental deficiencies, but if just don't have any kids I don't see a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpierre Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 If it isnt uncomfortable for them, then why not. But I dont see how wither of them can look at each other and feel the same way they do about each other before they found out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'll let you try & get that law passed. It's not your point I understand, but the social stigma there that would be pretty difficult to overcome. Digging really deep down to the core or it, yeah if it's not affecting anyone else, sure go nuts. No kids to mess up or traumatize. If a couple is okay with the social consequences of it. Let's raise the stakes. If you were separated from your parents at birth, then in your twenties you hooked up with an older woman and found out it was your mother.... I assume you'd take the same position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Even in that extreme hypothetical, it's a different scenario because of the nature of the relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 If you're throwing out the family factor because there's no chance of having children together, what's the difference? There was no prior relationship, never knew each other as brother-sister, or mother-son. I hate that I'm discussing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'm talking about the difference between falling in love with someone and hooking up with someone. The fundamental differences on those two separate types are astronomical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'm not disputing that. Forget that I typed "hooked up", that wasn't the distinction I intended to make. Exact same situation you're describing and replace sister with mother. Long lost son meets older woman, the two feel a bond and fall in love, misplaced or whatever it may be, and discover they're mother-son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I don't think that's a situation you can honestly judge from the outside looking in because of the emotions involved (same with the situation with the twins, hence my original question) but if future offspring weren't a problem I don't see the big deal. I mean, Freud would expect it to be totally kosher after all. I think the problem might lay more with the mother in that scenario than the son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I mean, Freud would expect it to be totally kosher after all. yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 WE KEEP LETTING THOSE GAY-BOS GET MARRIED AND NOW SISTARS WANNA MARRY BROTERS AND CHIMPS WANNA MARRY ELEEEPHINTS AND ITS ALLL GETIN OUTTA CONTRAL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinmemito Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 WE KEEP LETTING THOSE GAY-BOS GET MARRIED AND NOW SISTARS WANNA MARRY BROTERS AND CHIMPS WANNA MARRY ELEEEPHINTS AND ITS ALLL GETIN OUTTA CONTRAL!! Exactly my thoughts. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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