April 9, 200818 yr -Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse. . . . Cameron Maybin is off to a strong start at Double A Carolina (7 for 15, including two homers and a triple) and a .619 on-base average, but his strikeouts (four) will be monitored. Andre Dawson, among the Marlins officials who will scout Maybin, plans to talk to him about ``not getting himself out on pitches that aren't strikes.'' This was from the Miami Herald, dated today.
April 9, 200818 yr Hmm, Andre Dawson will be teaching Maybin about plate discipline... Sure Hawk had a high K:bb ratio, but if Pat Riley can try to teach Shaq about boxing out, why not.
April 9, 200818 yr Hmm, Andre Dawson will be teaching Maybin about plate discipline... "Learn from my mistakes kid" ?
April 9, 200818 yr We can do worse than have Dawson, or Perez for that matter, talk to guys about hitting
April 9, 200818 yr Strikeouts as a negative are overrated anyways. To an extent... still would like to not see him K 100 times if we can help it now, before it becomes a steadfast trend
April 9, 200818 yr Strikeouts as a negative are overrated anyways. To an extent... still would like to not see him K 100 times if we can help it now, before it becomes a steadfast trend True, but the other point is that I love seeing Dawson being the guy mentoring him right now, because even though he typically k'd a lot, he still knew how to put up very good numbers on a consistent basis.
April 9, 200818 yr Do as I say not as I do. You know... except for that whole MVP thing People also need a little perspective. Dawson's .328 OBP was a respectable (top half of qualifying player) figure in 1987, and it wouldn't be close to such nowadays. He also wasn't really a terrible strikeout victim after about age 24 or so.
April 9, 200818 yr Do as I say not as I do. You know... except for that whole MVP thing Sorry, I'm not trying to dis the Hawk. I think he is the perfect mentor for young Maybin.
April 9, 200818 yr Strikeouts as a negative are overrated anyways. But swinging at bad pitches is never a positive. It also leads to a lot of minor leaguers getting completely exposed in the majors, hence most of your failed prospects that weren't due to injuries.
April 9, 200818 yr Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse Notice that wasn't much of a concerned in 2006. :mis2
April 9, 200818 yr Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse Notice that wasn't much of a concerned in 2006. :mis2 omg its lyk u r totaliii girardii hisself!11 Dawson is a tremendously overrated player.
April 9, 200818 yr Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse Notice that wasn't much of a concerned in 2006. :mis2 The lack of a veteran presence is no excuse for naked players dancing in front of women reporters. Fredi should have put an end to that crap but that's Fredi for you.
April 9, 200818 yr Dawson is a tremendously overrated player. Wow. the guy had a major league career that lasted twenty years in the bigs. That doesn't happen by accident or because you are overrated, not with fresh talent burgeoning on the scene looking for their shot every year. Take out the years when he played part-time, his first abbreviated season and parts of the last three when he was injured much of the time and approaching or in his forties, and for a contact hitter his strikeouts as a percentage of at bats are numbers any number of major leaguers would like to have. In heart of his career he has seasons where he struck out very little (to be fair there were years where he had over 100 strikeouts (3) but probably twice or more as many where he struck out 80 times a season with 500+ at bat per). And he was a steady and sometimes exciting outfielder who was not as mistake-rone as a number of his contemporaries. You want to say he's not hall of fame material, so far the consensus agrees. But to call him "tremendously overrated" really isn't particularly fair or accurate.
April 9, 200818 yr i agree...the hawk was awesome for so many years...the game was different then and i dont judge a player purely based on his statistics alone(unlike other people)...he meant alot to cubs fans, to the city of chicago and had a great career...overrated? what a bunch of fluff that is
April 9, 200818 yr Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse Notice that wasn't much of a concerned in 2006. :mis2 Dawson is a tremendously overrated player. Overrated by who? He had a an extremely productive, injury free career for 15+ years, not hall of fame worthy, but a solid career and was the best player on his team(s) for many years and was even voted the best player in baseball one year.
April 9, 200818 yr Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse Notice that wasn't much of a concerned in 2006. :mis2 omg its lyk u r totaliii girardii hisself!11 Dawson is a tremendously overrated player. but take the era into account.
April 9, 200818 yr Several Marlins say Luis Gonzalez's presence is a big reason for the elimination of the frat-house, infantile behavior that hurt last year's clubhouse Notice that wasn't much of a concerned in 2006. :mis2 That's because Joe G was the general in charge. :mis2
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