http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNew...144368520080604

 

Discuss amongst yourselves.

I am not a fan of Obama because he reminds me of a Liberal George W Bush but it is kind of cool that in my life time we can see tangible results how far we have come as a country in terms of race

I am not a fan of Obama because he reminds me of a Liberal George W Bush but it is kind of cool that in my life time we can see tangible results how far we have come as a country in terms of race

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What in the world are you talking about?

I am not a fan of Obama because he reminds me of a Liberal George W Bush but it is kind of cool that in my life time we can see tangible results how far we have come as a country in terms of race

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What in the world are you talking about?

 

 

They are more similar than you would care to admit . Neither were in elected government very long before running for president . neither had any substantive foregin policy experience . both are attempting to assert they are post partisan candidates when both in their limited records tow the party line almost 100% of the time . Both Campaigns offered very little substance to their policy intiatives.Both have done cocaine

Congrats to him.

Additionally both guys have a Liberal view on the expansion of the size and role of federal government . Bush greatly expanded the size and role of the federal government while in office .Obama plans to expanded it further with all of his wonderful government programs and regulations.

It's about time. Now lets wait and see who he chooses as a running mate

apparently Hillary has hinted she might be interested in the VP job. Tough spot for Obama, he's got to figure out who can help him the most.

FTW.

It's about time. Now lets wait and see who he chooses as a running mate

The Bail Bondsman from Head of State.

Just don't ask Dick Cheney to choose your VP, because we all know who he will pick... :lol

Good luck to Senator Obama. He's not perfect and he has skeletons in his closet but he's damn sure the best candidate.

apparently Hillary has hinted she might be interested in the VP job. Tough spot for Obama, he's got to figure out who can help him the most.

 

 

I don't think Obama can clinch it all on his own. Lots of people who supported Hillary are disappointed she's not running and won't necessarily vote for Obama anyway just because he's the nominee.

 

I think if we had an Obama/Clinton ticket, McCain would just turn around and go home. I think they'd win overwhelmingly.

 

It's going to be interesting to see who he picks. If he's after unifying the party, then Hillary is the obvious choice.

 

But, in the end, I'm sure Florida will do something to f*** up the elections.

The only concern is whether or not Obama has a greater ability to attract undecided, apathetic, or even moderate voters than Clinton does. I think he has that capability.

I have seen a lot of data, along with many callers when listening to some radio shows, showing that people who used to vote Republican or have never voted before were inspired by Obama's ideas of change. It's something we haven't seen with a candidate since Kennedy or Reagan. It seems pretty clear that the country is looking for someone who isn't a cut and dry politician to lead us forward.

 

I am looking forward to the debates between the two candidates later this year.

Hence, most of the Democrats that I know personally who I consider to be intelligent and socially aware are not supporting Obama. They see right through him. And yes, my assessment of people's intelligence extends beyond simply their choice in candidate.

Same argument could have been made for Hillary. I simply can't understand how the single most prestigious job in the nation doesn't attract better qualified candidates than Obama or McCain........

Hence, most of the Democrats that I know personally who I consider to be intelligent and socially aware are not supporting Obama. They see right through him. And yes, my assessment of people's intelligence extends beyond simply their choice in candidate.

Same argument could have been made for Hillary. I simply can't understand how the single most prestigious job in the nation doesn't attract better qualified candidates than Obama or McCain........

 

 

And worse yet, Al Gore or John Kerry. And while we're at it, not that its the end all be all of intelligence but what would a good over/under be for W's IQ?

Honestly, the political gaps between Obama/Hillary and Obama/McCain are scarily similar. NONE of them are ideal choices so I guess we have to go in and hope for the best? [sigh]

I'm not a big fan of his stance on Israel, but I write it off as something that has become virtually required in order to be a serious candidate for President anymore.

 

He has accomplished many things in the area of civil rights in his political career that make me confident in who he is. For the record I have studied his career pretty well.

 

I'm also really happy that he has now refused to take political contributions from PACs and corporations during this election cycle.

When references are made to intelligent voters, think about this.

 

More than 1/2 of the teachers in Miami-Dade County aren't registered voters.

 

And, when I solicit teachers to register to vote, they give these cock-and-bull stories:

 

1) It doesn't make any difference who I vote for.

 

2) I don't have the time to go vote (although Miami-Dade County Public Schools has made the General Election day a teacher's workday, so they can come late or leave early and it doesn't affect them whatsoever)

 

3) I'll get called for jury duty. That went out the window a long time ago. You are called to jury duty via your driver's license.

 

 

And, teachers (after parents) are the most influential group our young people have. Over 1/2 of them aren't even going to vote. How sad my profession is. :thumbdown

*biting tongue*

Question: How is supporting Israel out of necessity of being a serious candidate not an example of politics as usual?

 

A minute ago you should said that he isn't a regular politician and now you are defending his rather controversial (and in my opinion, damaging) view because he is trying to comply with the American political system to become a serious candidate.

 

Please explain this rather unusual circumstance.

That's the only example I can find.

 

Obama did take more contributions when he was an Illinois State Senator (ie. Tony Rezko), but he stopped accepting contributions after he realized that he was involved in some unsavory things.

I found this article amusing, for some reason:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2...rice_for_p.html

I found this article amusing, for some reason:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2...rice_for_p.html

I don't know who was managing that campaign's finances, but they were MORONS.

 

It also doesn't help that she didn't have any strategy after Super Tuesday, in February.

 

The last I checked, she owes Mark Penn and other advisors something like $10 million.