We have set up a fan site to address all the problems our Marlin's face. These problems include inconsistent ownership capital for players, financing a new stadium, and where the new stadium will be.

 

Due to the outcome of the Norman Braman lawsuit the Marlins are in a delima. This dilemma is the fault of Jeffrey Loria because he is unwilling to use revenue he receive to run his team. He is unwilling to finance a new stadium. The main problem being Loria obviously can not afford to run a major league team. Forbes magazine claims Loria is making profits with the Marlins.

 

The time has come for the ONLY way that guarantees the Marlins stay in south Florida is to buy the team ourselves and build a new stadium. To do this we are taking names of those who would by stock in the Marlins. Help us save the Marlins by going to MyMarlins.com.

If Loria does not want to sell than we will buy an American League team and move them to Palm Beach County.

Ah, a Tampa Bay lawsuit in the making.

Yes, with our 27 dollars 32 cents, we plan on forcing the MLB to expand an extra team, in the state of Florida, which has 2 teams already, and 2 unsuccesful teams for that matter as far as attendance, SIMPLY to prove a point. Nice idea.

 

EDIT: Totally misread that, took cgators quote for real as if the OP said it... but I am still gonna leave the post because it was quite funny in my head.

 

Now with that... Id like to go and throw out a statement that you will never get enough money, nor Loria persuaded to sell the Marlins.

 

Edit again: cgator's quote was for real... from the website. I put back everything I said hah.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

LOL at the thought that:

there's significant interest in this

people will follow through

enough capital can be raised

MLB would even consider the group

this group would do a better job

the Marlins being able to address fan grievances, increase payroll AND finance a stadium through available revenue streams

 

Huizenga, Henry, Loria and limited interest by others. It's not the fault of the owners of the Marlins, there's something fundamentally wrong with the Marlins whether it be the market, stadium or fan base or some combination of the three.

The funny thing is that they create a site visible by all but didn't bother researching on anything regarding funding.

 

Monies being used for the Miami Megaplan project can not be used for anything else - meaning you can't use it for health care, to raise teacher's salaries nor for schools. Tourist tax dollars fund tourism. FDOT dollars go to transportation and if not use the state takes them back.

 

Regardless to the fact that there have been ideas of using tourism tax dollars to fund schoolastic projects, the real scheme of things is to figure out where our tax dollars ARE going and drop the "oh don't use our tax dollars for the Stadium" crap.

 

BTW - MyMarlins.com - learn to spell! If you want to make a serious push, investors do not take kindly to anonymous persons putting up webpages wih poor punctuation and grammar.

 

And yes, please go ahead and try to start your American Leauge team. Selig would be so proud.

The funny thing is that they create a site visible by all but didn't bother researching on anything regarding funding.

 

Monies being used for the Miami Megaplan project can not be used for anything else - meaning you can't use it for health care, to raise teacher's salaries nor for schools. Tourist tax dollars fund tourism. FDOT dollars go to transportation and if not use the state takes them back.

 

Regardless to the fact that there have been ideas of using tourism tax dollars to fund schoolastic projects, the real scheme of things is to figure out where our tax dollars ARE going and drop the "oh don't use our tax dollars for the Stadium" crap.

 

BTW - MyMarlins.com - learn to spell! If you want to make a serious push, investors do not take kindly to anonymous persons putting up webpages wih poor punctuation and grammar.

 

And yes, please go ahead and try to start your American Leauge team. Selig would be so proud.

 

First of all using any public money for private busisnees is crap. I know you want a ballpark but will that solve our problems. The problem is the ownership. He destroyed baseball in Montreal and is doing it here. If he don't get money he will leave. If they want public money period the public should own a fair share of the team. Do you think taxing tourist is going to help the economy? People are sick of taxes and don't want to pay extra when visiting. Tourist are the lifeblood of our economy.

 

Second our site has been spell checked. BTW you need to use spellcheck. Your Dade County public education is not enough.

 

Third we are not asking for money and will not print our members names for security purposes. We will incorporate and provide a physical mail address.

 

Finally if anyone has the money to buy a team they can put it where they want pending votes by other owners. Tampa may have stadium issues and pull a Loria and threaten to leave as well. Who says we can't buy them and move them? Not without a fight first.

 

You Marlins fans need to stick up for your team. Loria may own them now. Remember baseball is here because YOU wanted it. We need to stand up to anyone who threatens it. Clearly Jeffrey Loria is a threat to baseball.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

LOL at the thought that:

there's significant interest in this

people will follow through

enough capital can be raised

MLB would even consider the group

this group would do a better job

the Marlins being able to address fan grievances, increase payroll AND finance a stadium through available revenue streams

 

Huizenga, Henry, Loria and limited interest by others. It's not the fault of the owners of the Marlins, there's something fundamentally wrong with the Marlins whether it be the market, stadium or fan base or some combination of the three.

 

Major League baseball has approved fan ownership groups. A site called 4fanssake.com has a Chicago Cubs fan-site that has had this format formally approved.

The last we had a post like this it was a T-shirt company in Orlando (or over on the west coast, I don't remember which) that was using this as a way to collect email addresses of sports fans.

 

And BTW, it's a ridiculous idea. And please no one mention Green Bay different time, different circumstances. The property taxes alone would kill any such deal not to mention land acquisition costs etc.

If Loria does not want to sell than we will buy an American League team and move them to Palm Beach County.

Ah, a Tampa Bay lawsuit in the making.

 

Tampa Bay can't do a thing. They may have to sell anyway. The people in WPB are very interested my friend. If you don't stand up for your Marlins thanks to Norman Braman you may have the Palm Beach Marlins if enough people from Miami don't sign up.

If Loria does not want to sell than we will buy an American League team and move them to Palm Beach County.

Ah, a Tampa Bay lawsuit in the making.

 

Tampa Bay can't do a thing. They may have to sell anyway. The people in WPB are very interested my friend. If you don't stand up for your Marlins thanks to Norman Braman you may have the Palm Beach Marlins if enough people from Miami don't sign up.

 

I ive in West Palm, it is ludicris to think the team would come here, but if they did, I would go from going to 3games a year, to 50games a year. Plus there is land here, I think. Dream on, it is never going to happen!

Tampa Bay can't do a thing. They may have to sell anyway. The people in WPB are very interested my friend. If you don't stand up for your Marlins thanks to Norman Braman you may have the Palm Beach Marlins if enough people from Miami don't sign up.

 

Excuse me, but what "people" in WPB are very interested? Regular "Joe Blow" fans? Local government officials? Please try to names some names because I think you're full of it (and I would know "who" the Palm Beach "people" would be that are interested--because I would be quite close to most, if not all, of them!).

 

This whole thing has the feel of an 11th grade economics class summer school project (down to the grammar and sentence structure).

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First of all using any public money for private busisnees is crap. I know you want a ballpark but will that solve our problems. The problem is the ownership. He destroyed baseball in Montreal and is doing it here. If he don't get money he will leave. If they want public money period the public should own a fair share of the team. Do you think taxing tourist is going to help the economy? People are sick of taxes and don't want to pay extra when visiting. Tourist are the lifeblood of our economy.

 

Second our site has been spell checked. BTW you need to use spellcheck. Your Dade County public education is not enough.

 

Third we are not asking for money and will not print our members names for security purposes. We will incorporate and provide a physical mail address.

 

Finally if anyone has the money to buy a team they can put it where they want pending votes by other owners. Tampa may have stadium issues and pull a Loria and threaten to leave as well. Who says we can't buy them and move them? Not without a fight first.

 

You Marlins fans need to stick up for your team. Loria may own them now. Remember baseball is here because YOU wanted it. We need to stand up to anyone who threatens it. Clearly Jeffrey Loria is a threat to baseball.

 

Dude, you're the reason why some people climb to the top of bell towers with an AK-47. Your site may have been spell checked but you're using incorrect grammar. And, thankfully, I did not go to public school. I may need to use spellcheck but I am not putting together a site where you're urging people to pay a nice chunk of change for a baseball team.

 

Who says you can't buy a team and move them, it's a mountainous effort. If you love the Marlins so much, you would not be "threatening" to put together an AL team and move them to Palm Beach.

 

I do stick up for my team, but you can't piss on the person who owns them just cause you do not like what happened in Montreal (there's a lot more involved than that little, inaccurate section on Loria. Mainly the strike in 94 which, pretty much, destroyed their chances of getting a new stadium and brought over a firesale. And the fact that Loria's push to use public funds to put in a new park was vetoed because Olympic Stadium hadn't been fully payed for and wouldn't be for a while.)

 

As for the RICO suit and almost all lawsuits that are monetary disputes, we really do not know the truth. The wronged people got some money and we haven't heard about it again.

 

I, for one, would not give my hard earned money to just anyone who starts up a website. You want to make a serious push, incorporate, put together some legal begal contracts for your investors, something that we can take a look at and decide with our lawyers. A contract which states that, if this negotiation were to fall though, we'd get our money back.

 

I invest in several things in this county. Especially when it comes to keeping what little history we have, intact (Vizcaya, etc.). When I invest, I don't do it to some unknown entity.

As for the RICO suit and almost all lawsuits that are monetary disputes, we really do not know the truth. The wronged people got some money and we haven't heard about it again.

 

Loria and Major League Baseball won.

 

I believe the exact words of the judge overseeing the case was (in reference to the plaintiffs who brought the action), "You have no one except yourselves to blame...".

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

LOL at the thought that:

there's significant interest in this

people will follow through

enough capital can be raised

MLB would even consider the group

this group would do a better job

the Marlins being able to address fan grievances, increase payroll AND finance a stadium through available revenue streams

 

Huizenga, Henry, Loria and limited interest by others. It's not the fault of the owners of the Marlins, there's something fundamentally wrong with the Marlins whether it be the market, stadium or fan base or some combination of the three.

 

Major League baseball has approved fan ownership groups. A site called 4fanssake.com has a Chicago Cubs fan-site that has had this format formally approved.

That is awesome,

 

 

and would be awesome!

this person have to much time to build web site i think your idea wont work at all too much red tape. how many people sign up?

Not to be an ass, but I spent 2 minutes reading that site and there are tons of spelling and grammar errors. If you want to be taken seriously, you might want to fix that.

Second our site has been spell checked. BTW you need to use spellcheck. Your Dade County public education is not enough.

 

 

Your insults are not accepted here. And it surely wont gain you any support whatsoever to insult another poster.

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HA HA HA. After reading that little tidbit, I simply cannot take you seriously.

This is one of the dumbest things ever written in these forums.

Tampa Bay can't do a thing. They may have to sell anyway. The people in WPB are very interested my friend. If you don't stand up for your Marlins thanks to Norman Braman you may have the Palm Beach Marlins if enough people from Miami don't sign up.

 

Excuse me, but what "people" in WPB are very interested? Regular "Joe Blow" fans? Local government officials? Please try to names some names because I think you're full of it (and I would know "who" the Palm Beach "people" would be that are interested--because I would be quite close to most, if not all, of them!).

 

This whole thing has the feel of an 11th grade economics class summer school project (down to the grammar and sentence structure).

 

 

I think there was one politico from the Boynton Beach area, and he got shot down rather quickly. Other than that, not another that I have heard of.

 

In the private sector...That felon, boxing promoter (what the heck is his name???) that owns the ex-jai alai fronton, which actually is a great location. Other than that...nada that I know of. The $$$ to do something like that is definetly here, just not the interest that I know of.

 

This is just alot of wind. Makes a hurricane look mild. Just a few ownership haters going overboard and trying to look like they know what they speak of. Summer vacation can't end soon enough.

I think there was one politico from the Boynton Beach area, and he got shot down rather quickly. Other than that, not another that I have heard of.

 

In the private sector...That felon, boxing promoter (what the heck is his name???) that owns the ex-jai alai fronton, which actually is a great location. Other than that...nada that I know of. The $$$ to do something like that is definetly here, just not the interest that I know of.

 

This is just alot of wind. Makes a hurricane look mild. Just a few ownership haters going overboard and trying to look like they know what they speak of. Summer vacation can't end soon enough.

 

I can tell you directly who the two folks are. First was Commissioner Ferguson (who is no longer in office) from Boynton Beach who suggested that the Marlins build a stadium at Quantum (Gateway Blvd. and I-95). However, the City of Boynton Beach had no land there to give and the owners of Quantum (who I dealt with in the past in getting a project approved in there) would not have given up any land for it. Today, Quantum is almost completely built out with residential and commercial uses, two things that were not originally contemplated for that site (I got a drug and alcohol treatment facility use approved there in 2002 where none was permitted before).

 

The second person, Don King, was offering to build a park at his fronton in Mangonia Park (45th Street and Australian). However, that parcel of land is involved in reems of litigation with former prospective buyers (who were clients of mine) and was going to be developed as a residential project to increase tiny Mangonia Park's tax base.

 

Aside from those two potential suitors, there is nothing going on in Palm Beach County to help fund a ballpark. Trust me on that one, I'm on the Palm Beach County Sports Commission and we'd be the lead agency in trying to attract the Marlins. Instead, the County has earmarked other facilities and uses that are a better investment on government monies and bring an instant economic impact. For instance, we're bringing the AYSO Youth Soccer Championships to Wellington/Royal Palm Beach in 2010 (they're played every two years, with Honolulu as the host this year). The expected immediate impact on the County's economy is $10,000,000.00, and that is not factoring in the impact on hotels and other businesses since hundreds of AYSO teams from around the country will be coming into Palm Beach for weeks! I was appointed to the Facilities Committee of the PBCSC and I can tell you there are no facilities or properties in Palm Beach County that are, as of today, being considered to handled -- or can handle -- the construction of a major league ballpark!

I think there was one politico from the Boynton Beach area, and he got shot down rather quickly. Other than that, not another that I have heard of.

 

In the private sector...That felon, boxing promoter (what the heck is his name???) that owns the ex-jai alai fronton, which actually is a great location. Other than that...nada that I know of. The $$$ to do something like that is definetly here, just not the interest that I know of.

 

This is just alot of wind. Makes a hurricane look mild. Just a few ownership haters going overboard and trying to look like they know what they speak of. Summer vacation can't end soon enough.

 

I can tell you directly who the two folks are. First was Commissioner Ferguson (who is no longer in office) from Boynton Beach who suggested that the Marlins build a stadium at Quantum (Gateway Blvd. and I-95). However, the City of Boynton Beach had no land there to give and the owners of Quantum (who I dealt with in the past in getting a project approved in there) would not have given up any land for it. Today, Quantum is almost completely built out with residential and commercial uses, two things that were not originally contemplated for that site (I got a drug and alcohol treatment facility use approved there in 2002 where none was permitted before).

 

The second person, Don King, was offering to build a park at his fronton in Mangonia Park (45th Street and Australian). However, that parcel of land is involved in reems of litigation with former prospective buyers (who were clients of mine) and was going to be developed as a residential project to increase tiny Mangonia Park's tax base.

 

Aside from those two potential suitors, there is nothing going on in Palm Beach County to help fund a ballpark. Trust me on that one, I'm on the Palm Beach County Sports Commission and we'd be the lead agency in trying to attract the Marlins. Instead, the County has earmarked other facilities and uses that are a better investment on government monies and bring an instant economic impact. For instance, we're bringing the AYSO Youth Soccer Championships to Wellington/Royal Palm Beach in 2010 (they're played every two years, with Honolulu as the host this year). The expected immediate impact on the County's economy is $10,000,000.00, and that is not factoring in the impact on hotels and other businesses since hundreds of AYSO teams from around the country will be coming into Palm Beach for weeks! I was appointed to the Facilities Committee of the PBCSC and I can tell you there are no facilities or properties in Palm Beach County that are, as of today, being considered to handled -- or can handle -- the construction of a major league ballpark!

 

I couldn't remember those names for the life of me. Thanks.

 

But the fronton isn't at 45th and Australian. Closer to 95 and Congress actually. And it would have made a nice location. Tri rail right there and easy access to 95, not far from the turnpike. I didn't know about the litigation but I had heard that the Marlins FO never did take the offer seriously. I can understand that a little better now. There is also another spot near by that I have drooled over for a stadium. Military Trail and 45th. Just south of the shopping plaza and is a large parcel going all the way over to Haverhill and continues quite a ways south. Looks large enough if parking garages are used. But that's just day dreaming.

 

Seeing that you should be in the know... Whatever happened to developing that downtown area that has been razed? Right off 95 and Okeechobee, to the south of the convention center. There was talk of building a complex there and inviting the Orioles to move to it. Always liked that idea as it was sort of an admission of guilt for a previous mayor (Nancy Graham maybe? Only remember her name because she is back in the news in San Diego for same type of shady deals and giving the same excuse for resigning there) for basically forcing the Braves and Expos out of the near downtown area. And selling our other sports venue at the same time, basically the reason we no longer have an AFL team here.

Where can I send you my $10 I can't even to spend on tickets?

 

Do you accept paypal. Can I get a reciept?

 

I need a receipt for tax purposes. I suppose donating to you would be like donating to a poor white trash charity.

 

I also have some cans of corn and peas I can "Email" ya. If it wasn't for the little people dreaming big in this world, we'd have no one to laugh at.

I couldn't remember those names for the life of me. Thanks.

 

But the fronton isn't at 45th and Australian. Closer to 95 and Congress actually. And it would have made a nice location. Tri rail right there and easy access to 95, not far from the turnpike. I didn't know about the litigation but I had heard that the Marlins FO never did take the offer seriously. I can understand that a little better now. There is also another spot near by that I have drooled over for a stadium. Military Trail and 45th. Just south of the shopping plaza and is a large parcel going all the way over to Haverhill and continues quite a ways south. Looks large enough if parking garages are used. But that's just day dreaming.

 

Seeing that you should be in the know... Whatever happened to developing that downtown area that has been razed? Right off 95 and Okeechobee, to the south of the convention center. There was talk of building a complex there and inviting the Orioles to move to it. Always liked that idea as it was sort of an admission of guilt for a previous mayor (Nancy Graham maybe? Only remember her name because she is back in the news in San Diego for same type of shady deals and giving the same excuse for resigning there) for basically forcing the Braves and Expos out of the near downtown area. And selling our other sports venue at the same time, basically the reason we no longer have an AFL team here.

 

The fronton is between Congress and Australian on 45th. I can see it right now from my window here in my office (on the corner of Australian and Banyan downtown next to Channel 5). I just don't think that site would have been convenient for residents of Miami-Dade and Broward and Tri-Rail stops running at night. Plus, the area around the fronton is actually more dangerous than the area around the Orange Bowl. That was one of the issues that was really putting a monkey wrench in the plans that I was working on to redevelop that property as a mixed-use commercial/residential project (it would have been a CityPlace type like project with commercial on the first floor and residential above). Also, it would have been a situation similar to Dolphin Stadium. The Marlins would have swapped H. Wayne Huizenga for Don King. You can insert your own thoughts and comments there!

 

As for the properties around the convention center, those are still earmarked for the elusive "convention center hotel" which has been Mayor Frankel's "pet" for a while. There is no more talk at all about bringing in a spring training facility downtown (or plans for a AAA baseball facility which was knocked around a bit also).

Where can I send you my $10 I can't even to spend on tickets?

 

Do you accept paypal. Can I get a reciept?

 

I need a receipt for tax purposes. I suppose donating to you would be like donating to a poor white trash charity.

 

I also have some cans of corn and peas I can "Email" ya. If it wasn't for the little people dreaming big in this world, we'd have no one to laugh at.

Nice, I wonder who we can sign for $10 for our team.