If Fredi left him in and we lost, I would be giving him crap for leaving in a starter for the last inning only for the reason of getting a complete game and not paying attention to the fact that the 2nd hitter owns him.

 

IBB

 

EDIT: Also pitch count was only at 93, and Ricky has been a horse, no way you can say the only reason was for a CG.

The 2nd guy coming up in the inning just happens to destroy Ricky Nolasco for fun. He sits at home and thinks of new ways to destroy Ricky. He named his Dog "Barky Nolasdog" and kicks it for fun.

 

I don't think it would have been the right move.

 

Is it just me, or does Matt Holliday look a bit like Brad Pitt?

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

And he's 6-8 with 2 homers and a triple off Ricky. Of course, 2 of those were today, which gives ever more reason to put Gregg in.

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

And he's 6-8 with 2 homers and a triple off Ricky. Of course, 2 of those were today, which gives ever more reason to put Gregg in.

 

 

i bet you all thos numbers r from coors

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

And he's 6-8 with 2 homers and a triple off Ricky. Of course, 2 of those were today, which gives ever more reason to put Gregg in.

 

 

i bet you all thos numbers r from coors

 

No he's right, most of those numbers were today.

 

However IBB is always an option.

 

AND law of averages would state that Holliday would be more likely to not hit another homer

other then the 2 homers today is what i meant lol

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

And he's 6-8 with 2 homers and a triple off Ricky. Of course, 2 of those were today, which gives ever more reason to put Gregg in.

 

 

i bet you all thos numbers r from coors

 

No he's right, most of those numbers were today.

 

However IBB is always an option.

 

AND law of averages would state that Holliday would be more likely to not hit another homer

Law of averages says he had a 50/50 chance to end up at least at 3rd base.

 

Not one I like.

 

This was a safer option in the end and it worked.

 

And bah intentionally bringing the tying or winning run when they are two guys as hot as Hawpe and Atkins.

other then the 2 homers today is what i meant lol

One game at Coors and one at the DS.

Great time tonight. After that first inning Ricky had amazing control! We all want to see the complete game but Holliday totally had Ricky's number and I had no problem with the decision especially since we haven't seen scary Gregg in a while. Fireworks were even better tonight and The Bangles were fun.

 

I'm liking Baker and not missing Trainor. Hanley was very disappointing at the plate but did have a great defensive play. It seemed odd to have 2 triples in one inning and neither one by someone named Hanley.

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

And he's 6-8 with 2 homers and a triple off Ricky. Of course, 2 of those were today, which gives ever more reason to put Gregg in.

 

 

i bet you all thos numbers r from coors

 

No he's right, most of those numbers were today.

 

However IBB is always an option.

 

AND law of averages would state that Holliday would be more likely to not hit another homer

Law of averages says he had a 50/50 chance to end up at least at 3rd base.

 

Not one I like.

 

This was a safer option in the end and it worked.

 

And bah intentionally bringing the tying or winning run when they are two guys as hot as Hawpe and Atkins.

 

OK last bit from me, but the entire Rockies lineup was destroying Gregg in Coors earlier this year. So you're comparing one guy raking Ricky to everyone raking Gregg.

yea when ricky starts giving up 1 or 2 early runs i know he won't let more than that in atl east 6-7 innings of work.

We got the win which is really all that matters.

13 K's and no walks for Ricky. :dwarf

 

 

whip down to 1.18

How about that?!

Since that game that should go down in lore as "The Tampa Bay Start", Ricky has:

 

More strikeouts than innings pitched (74 to 70.2, 9.42 K/9)

 

Nearly under 1 walk per nine innings (eight walks total, 1.02 BB/9)

 

An absolute DOMINANT K/BB. Has there ever been a more dominant K/BB over a 10 game span in the past 20 years or so? I'm being dead serious. I'm sure a Pedro or Maddux might have a 10 game streak like it in their big time years but I seriously don't know.

 

He has a 9.25 K/BB. Remember all the fuss about Cliff Lee's K/BB at the start of the year? By game 10 it dropped to 5.70. Cliff's also riding another nice K/BB streak, but it's only at 6.3. Cliff Lee certainly deserves more credit because he's been doing this over the entire season, leading all starters by huge amount (6.25 on the season, second is Haren at 5.58) but this 10 game streak by Nolasco is just seriously ridiculous.

 

0.93 WHIP! I mean common.

 

And you know what the saddest part is? The only people that know about this are Fish fans. This is getting 0 recognition anywhere else.

nice game play by marlins their kept Rockies from tie the game good crowd at ballpark too

I only complain when I see a manager make a mistake on an obvious move.

I didn't see tonight's move as obvious.

 

Personally, I would've let Ricky start the inning, and if the 1st hitter got on, I would've brought in Gregg.

 

However, it's a move that a lot of managers make. I can't say I blame them, since it was a tight game, and it was the 4th time through the order for Ricky.

 

I've only faulted Fredi for 2 games, this year.

1. Against the Phillies, in the 7th inning, with men at 2nd & 3rd with 2 outs (4-4 game)...Pat Burrell up, and he pitched to Burrell, instead of opting to pitch to an impatient Feliz with the bases loaded.

2. One night in Atlanta, when he only used Pinto for one out, and elected to bring in Lindstrom to face Chipper and Teixiera, instead of leaving Pinto in there, knowing that Pinto is far better against righties, than Lindstrom is against lefties.

 

Those are two I remember, as obvious to me.

 

Tonight's move could've gone either way, imo, and he opted to use his closer who's 8/8 in his last 8 save opps., pitching much better, and a closer who needs the ball, really, with an off day Monday heading into the Philly series.

Just looked it up, Matt Holliday career vs Kevin Gregg, 3 for 5, 1 home run. So it works both ways. But we win either way

And he's 6-8 with 2 homers and a triple off Ricky. Of course, 2 of those were today, which gives ever more reason to put Gregg in.

 

 

i bet you all thos numbers r from coors

 

No he's right, most of those numbers were today.

 

However IBB is always an option.

 

AND law of averages would state that Holliday would be more likely to not hit another homer

Law of averages says he had a 50/50 chance to end up at least at 3rd base.

 

Not one I like.

 

This was a safer option in the end and it worked.

 

And bah intentionally bringing the tying or winning run when they are two guys as hot as Hawpe and Atkins.

 

OK last bit from me, but the entire Rockies lineup was destroying Gregg in Coors earlier this year. So you're comparing one guy raking Ricky to everyone raking Gregg.

Yes, I am taking Gregg, who got rocked in one game a month ago, to Nolasco, he got owned by this guy less than an hour ago (at that time).

As others pointed out Gregg needs the work to stay effective and he has done well lately. I am one of those who had reached the point where I couldn't bear to watch him but he's been very good.

Good game overall and a good result, even though the top 3 in the NL East enjoy the mimic process of baseball. Mets lost! nice!

 

Pitching was dominant from our ACE I was peeved when Nolasco was removed from the game with just an inning to go, he had shown no signs of being tired and Fredi has gotten way to used to putting Gregg in. Tommy Hutton and I are both a little sick of it, although I disagree that the streak of 0 CG will get to +500 games I think it will still happen sometime this year. (maybe)

 

The bats were typical tonight having trouble scoring more than one run and failing a couple times with runners on.

They got enough runs to win the game and thankfully we had the right guy on the mound.

 

Jacobs sucks (even with his triple) and I really think the only reason he remains a Marlin is because McPherson isn't exactly a lock to be a star in the MLB.

I don't care for him and I hope he leaves soon.

 

Wasn't the best of wins, but I will take it. Let's take 3 of 4 tomorrow!

 

:gofish

WOO~~ Thanks Astros.

I saw on ESPN that Ramon Castro hurt his ankle on a weird play at the plate. Any Ramon Castro injury reminds me of the notorious "toe incident" and just makes me hate him more.

WOO~~ Thanks Astros.

I saw on ESPN that Ramon Castro hurt his ankle on a weird play at the plate. Any Ramon Castro injury reminds me of the notorious "toe incident" and just makes me hate him more.

 

Care to refresh my memory?

Look at this picture.

What a strained face by Baker!

:lol

I love this man.

WOO~~ Thanks Astros.

I saw on ESPN that Ramon Castro hurt his ankle on a weird play at the plate. Any Ramon Castro injury reminds me of the notorious "toe incident" and just makes me hate him more.

 

Care to refresh my memory?

He walked off during a game when we had no other catcher because his toe hurt. No one knew anything about the injury and McKeon was fuming. Mike Mordecai had to catch. To say Castro had been struggling at the time would be an understatement. He became Marlin fan enemy #1. A few days later McKeon was asked how Castro was doing and he said "oh, he's still walking around saying his toe hurts."

 

By the way, I thought the best line of the night was from the woman from one of the radio stations who introduced The Bangles saying "we haven't seen this many girls on the field since the Mets were here!" :lol

WOO~~ Thanks Astros.

I saw on ESPN that Ramon Castro hurt his ankle on a weird play at the plate. Any Ramon Castro injury reminds me of the notorious "toe incident" and just makes me hate him more.

 

Care to refresh my memory?

He walked off during a game when we had no other catcher because his toe hurt. No one knew anything about the injury and McKeon was fuming. Mike Mordecai had to catch. To say Castro had been struggling at the time would be an understatement. He became Marlin fan enemy #1. A few days later McKeon was asked how Castro was doing and he said "oh, he's still walking around saying his toe hurts."

 

By the way, I thought the best line of the night was from the woman from one of the radio stations who introduced The Bangles saying "we haven't seen this many girls on the field since the Mets were here!" :lol

 

Oh wow what a douche. I remember he underperformed horribly for us but I must've missed toe-gate.

 

And I love that Mets line.

ricky was at his best he kept us in game he didnot let homerun get to him he kept going to top 8 i think fred want to gave gregg chance to close game