I still don't understand why people support the idea that we need to trade Cantu for Jonathan Sanchez.

 

There are talks of him having "upside", but other than his K rates, I don't see anything projectable about this guy. He has had serious control problems, plus he is no that young. I could see maybe if he were 21, 22-ish--but he's 25 and about to enter the prime of his career with no history of success to support his case.

 

Not to mention the fact that we already have a surplus of arms.

 

 

I mean, there's already a thread on J. Sanchez, but his K rates are teriffic and he's had some outstanding stretches in his career.

 

I'm not sure we have a surplus of arms: Nolasco - injury history, Johnson - injury history, Volstad - healthy so far but never pitched more than 175 IP, Anibal - injury history and has struggled in late season and winter league stints, Miller - similar pitcher to Sanchez, except younger.

 

I don't see a surplus of SP arms there. Aaron Thompson and Sean West aren't ready yet, and Tucker and DLC are seeming less and loess likely to be given a shot as starters unless utterly desperate.

 

At the same time, the fact that we have 5 arms with good to great upside is why we might be able to gamble on Sanchez. He'd make me nervous in the rotation for a contending team right this second, but his upside is tremendous and if our arms stay healthy we can let him hang around until if/when he figures it out, at which point he may be a filthy top-of-the-rotation guy.

I mean, there's already a thread on J. Sanchez, but his K rates are teriffic and he's had some outstanding stretches in his career.

 

I'm not sure we have a surplus of arms: Nolasco - injury history, Johnson - injury history, Volstad - healthy so far but never pitched more than 175 IP, Anibal - injury history and has struggled in late season and winter league stints, Miller - similar pitcher to Sanchez, except younger.

 

I don't see a surplus of SP arms there. Aaron Thompson and Sean West aren't ready yet, and Tucker and DLC are seeming less and loess likely to be given a shot as starters unless utterly desperate.

 

At the same time, the fact that we have 5 arms with good to great upside is why we might be able to gamble on Sanchez. He'd make me nervous in the rotation for a contending team right this second, but his upside is tremendous and if our arms stay healthy we can let him hang around until if/when he figures it out, at which point he may be a filthy top-of-the-rotation guy.

 

And this is essentially what I told Puma on AIM :lol

 

Also, considering JonnySancho only had more than 100 IP at ONE level of minor league ball and seems to be suffering the effects of being rushed... if we could pick up this dude, we could theoretically store him in NOLA for a year, or until needed, giving him that valuable developmental time he never really got... he's essentially Andrew Miller 2.0 - or perhaps 1.0 since he was at the ML level first

my problem with dallas is by the day I feel he won't get the job more and more

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he became the "LH OF/1B" and we put up with his bad LF defense haha

 

We've put up with bad defense in right field for so long who would notice? :brigginbounce

 

Hermida doesn't rate as a bad fielder.

 

His +/- from 2006-2008: -3, +7, +2

 

So he's really not bad, It's just the ridiculous routes he sometimes takes on balls make him look bad.

my problem with dallas is by the day I feel he won't get the job more and more

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he became the "LH OF/1B" and we put up with his bad LF defense haha

 

We've put up with bad defense in right field for so long who would notice? :brigginbounce

 

Hermida doesn't rate as a bad fielder.

 

His +/- from 2006-2008: -3, +7, +2

 

So he's really not bad, It's just the ridiculous routes he sometimes takes on balls make him look bad.

 

:brigginbounce

haha.

 

Man Teixeira needs to sign already so all the other free agents and trades fall into place. The board is brutal right now.

my problem with dallas is by the day I feel he won't get the job more and more

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he became the "LH OF/1B" and we put up with his bad LF defense haha

 

We've put up with bad defense in right field for so long who would notice? :brigginbounce

 

Hermida doesn't rate as a bad fielder.

 

His +/- from 2006-2008: -3, +7, +2

 

So he's really not bad, It's just the ridiculous routes he sometimes takes on balls make him look bad.

 

:brigginbounce

I've learned that the bouncing smilie from 2003 = joking/sarcasm

 

Also, considering JonnySancho only had more than 100 IP at ONE level of minor league ball and seems to be suffering the effects of being rushed... if we could pick up this dude, we could theoretically store him in NOLA for a year, or until needed, giving him that valuable developmental time he never really got... he's essentially Andrew Miller 2.0 - or perhaps 1.0 since he was at the ML level first

 

he's out of options

 

Wanting Johnny is wanting him for what he did April-June - 1.34 WHIP, 3.79 ERA. Kept the ball in the yard, 0.71 HR/9, K'd exacly one per inning, and his BB rates weren't that bad, 4.15 BB/9. A 2.17 K/BB isn't nolasco-like outstanding but it's still good. And, even though you should be able to see it by the peripherals, he had a .302 BABIP in that time span, it wasn't like he was lucky.

 

He then experienced a tired arm, as explained by PWG because he never pitched so long in a season. Which also means he is an injury risk next season.

Man, the Giants fail so hard sometimes... out of options.... spleh

:brigginbounce

Well at least they are holding out for something more than just a mid-level prospect.

 

 

1. Go to bookshelf

 

2. Find Dictionary

 

3. Look up Mid-level prospect

 

4. See picture of Adam Moore

 

5. Meet or exceed a 3rd grade reading level so that you can understand "and another player" would indicate that the team wants more than than just Adam Moore.

why dont they trade him he has done absoulty nothing to stay here .he is alaways injured.he plays horrible in right field.my grandma can throw farther than him.people alaways talk about his potential and he not even have as good as his so called potential.we need to trade this baseball america top ten prospect scrub.

Darn. Moore has put up some tasty numbers in A and AA.

 

The Seattle Mariners and the Florida Marlins probably don't match up well for a trade, but the Mariners are likely to trade a catcher this offseason after re-signing free agent backup catcher Jamie Burke this week:

 

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2008555220_mari24.html?syndication=rss

 

The move was somewhat unexpected because the Mariners have four other catchers vying for playing time:

 

1. 32-year-old Kenji Johjima, who is coming off a down season after hitting .291 and .287 his first two years in America. Johjima has three years and $24 million remaining on his contract.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/johjike01.shtml

 

2. 25-year-old lefthand-hitting Jeff Clement, Seattle's former top prospect who tore up Triple A pitching in 2008 before struggling at the MLB level.

 

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...&pid=459943

 

3. 25-year-old Rob Johnson, a defensive whiz who was named Triple A's top catcher in 2008 after hitting .305 with an .804 OPS at Tacoma.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minor...008/266957.html

 

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...&pid=453531

 

4. 24-year-old Adam Moore, whom Baseball America recently named as Seattle's sixth-ranked prospect after Moore posted OPS numbers of .914 and .902 the past two seasons at High A and Double A, respectively.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...008/265565.html

 

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...&pid=446192

 

Are the Florida Marlins still in the market for a catcher?

Are the Florida Marlins still in the market for a catcher?

Yes. Why put this in the Hermida thread? Only Clement makes sense for the Marlins for Hermida, and Seattle wouldn't do that. Clement is also a lefty and while he should bash, we should get a younger right hander hitter.

Are the Florida Marlins still in the market for a catcher?

Yes. Why put this in the Hermida thread? Only Clement makes sense for the Marlins for Hermida, and Seattle wouldn't do that. Clement is also a lefty and while he should bash, we should get a younger right hander hitter.

This Jeremy Hermida thread started with a reference to Seattle catching prospect Adam Moore, who was referenced no fewer than three times in later posts. My post simply suggested that Seattle is more likely to trade a catcher after signing last season's backup this week. My contribution was not worthy of a separate thread.

 

Happy Holidays.

why dont they trade him he has done absoulty nothing to stay here .he is alaways injured.he plays horrible in right field.my grandma can throw farther than him.people alaways talk about his potential and he not even have as good as his so called potential.we need to trade this baseball america top ten prospect scrub.

 

 

Terrible Terrible post.

why dont they trade him he has done absoulty nothing to stay here .he is alaways injured.he plays horrible in right field.my grandma can throw farther than him.people alaways talk about his potential and he not even have as good as his so called potential.we need to trade this baseball america top ten prospect scrub.

Wow.

I don't like Hermida much as I think he's very overrated but the Marlins can't afford to take less than what he is worth.