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Daily Farm Report Thread 7/5-7/11

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Great to see John Raynor heat up over the past 3 games (3-4), (2-5), and (2-5). 7 for his last 14 in total. Contrary to many people on this board, I believe Raynor can really help a major league team with his speed and defense.

Kind of troubling to see Sanabia's K rate dropping with his stuff. It might just be an anomaly though. You can only draw so many conclusions when you don't see these guys play everyday. Hopefully he continues to get back on track after an atrocious June.

 

You have to wonder how much longer they can keep Maybin in NO. He's done everything he can possibly do to get called up (minus the homers but still slugging .484) including, most importantly, improving his plate discipline which was cited as the main reason he was sent down (22 walks to 27 K's).

 

One argument with Maybin is service time. If they keep him down until September, he will probably avoid being a Super 2 thus delaying arbitration a season. He'd be around .130 or so days if I did the math right, and lately around 140 days is the cut off. He would shockingly cost the minimum 2010, 2011, and 2012, if they do that. He's already eligible for the playoff roster, so if they think they don't need him, might as well save the money in 2012.

 

Sanabia is having a real nice year, and even a dip in K's really doesn't diminish the quality innings he's been throwing all year. Jax was always going to be the measuring stick.

 

If this is the case, and the reasoning had entered my mind when people were debating whether to call up Coghlan, you would hope the reason they think they won't need Maybin is because of the acquisition of another impact bat. Otherwise I don't see how you can justify leaving a potentially contributing bat in the minors (in a playoff run) in order to salvage another sub 400k year in 2012. Granted that's always a concern with this team, but it didn't stop them from accelerating Coghlan's clock in what was offensive desperation at the time.

This is true, but when you think about arbitration also Coghlan is not the kind of player who is going to bank unless he decides to be Pedroia. Maybin, could BANK, if he starts popping 20, stealing, etc. There's more chance of saving with a Maybin than a Coghlan. I'm just saying. I want to agree with you, but you've seen how the franchise is run. And really this should be the last group of 'rookies' we have to worry about with this as the new stadium should allow us to be a little less frugal with the money to call up a guy and risk arbitration 3 years away. uh.

Great to see John Raynor heat up over the past 3 games (3-4), (2-5), and (2-5). 7 for his last 14 in total. Contrary to many people on this board, I believe Raynor can really help a major league team with his speed and defense.

 

He's an average defender at best.

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Kind of troubling to see Sanabia's K rate dropping with his stuff. It might just be an anomaly though. You can only draw so many conclusions when you don't see these guys play everyday. Hopefully he continues to get back on track after an atrocious June.

 

You have to wonder how much longer they can keep Maybin in NO. He's done everything he can possibly do to get called up (minus the homers but still slugging .484) including, most importantly, improving his plate discipline which was cited as the main reason he was sent down (22 walks to 27 K's).

 

One argument with Maybin is service time. If they keep him down until September, he will probably avoid being a Super 2 thus delaying arbitration a season. He'd be around .130 or so days if I did the math right, and lately around 140 days is the cut off. He would shockingly cost the minimum 2010, 2011, and 2012, if they do that. He's already eligible for the playoff roster, so if they think they don't need him, might as well save the money in 2012.

 

Sanabia is having a real nice year, and even a dip in K's really doesn't diminish the quality innings he's been throwing all year. Jax was always going to be the measuring stick.

 

If this is the case, and the reasoning had entered my mind when people were debating whether to call up Coghlan, you would hope the reason they think they won't need Maybin is because of the acquisition of another impact bat. Otherwise I don't see how you can justify leaving a potentially contributing bat in the minors (in a playoff run) in order to salvage another sub 400k year in 2012. Granted that's always a concern with this team, but it didn't stop them from accelerating Coghlan's clock in what was offensive desperation at the time.

 

I see it the same way as you. Is really worth saving a little bit of money in 2012, when our payroll could be $40 million+, instead of promoting Maybin right now. He is ready and our offense needs him right now.

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Daily Farm Reports -- 7/7

 

AAA -- New Orleans

New Orleans 4, Iowa 1

 

Cameron Maybin: DNP

Gaby Sanchez - 1B: 1-4, RBI, SO

Jai Miller - CF: 1-3, BB, 2SO

John Raynor - LF: 2-4, 2RBI, R, 2B, 2SO

Brett Hayes: DNP

Rick VandenHurk: DNP

Dallas Trahern: DNP

 

AA -- Jacksonville

Jacksonville 6, Mississippi 0

 

Mike Stanton - RF: 3-5, HR, 3RBI, R, 2B, SO

Logan Morrison - 1B: 1-2, RBI, R, 2B, 3SO

Scott Cousins - CF: 1-5, 2SO

Bryan Peterson: DNP

Kyle Winters: DNP

Aaron Thompson: DNP

Graham Taylor: DNP

 

High A -- Jupiter

Jupiter 8, St. Lucie 6

 

Matt Dominguez - 3B: 1-3, HR, RBI, 2R, 2BB

Alejandro Sanabia: DNP

Elih Villanueva: DNP

Jeff Allison: DNP

 

A -- Greensboro

Greensboro 2, Lake County 4

 

Kyle Skipworth: DL

Isaac Galloway - RF: 0-4, 2SO

Jake Smolinski - 3B: 2-4, 2B, SO

Kyle Kaminska: DNP

Brad Hand - SP: (L) 6IP, 4ER, 7K, 3BB, 2HR, 6H, 4R

 

Low A -- Jamestown

Jamestown 0, Williamsport 1

 

Blake Brewer: DNP

Curtis Petersen: DNP

 

Gulf Coast League -- Marlins

Marlins 6, Nationals 4 F/6 RAIN

 

Marquise Cooper - CF: 1-3, R, 2B

Hodges: DNP

Olmos: DNP

Dominguez has sure found is stroke.

 

July - 7 games, 23 AB, 9 H, .391/.516/1.000 (1.516), 4 HR, 6/4 BB/K.

 

Good lord.

 

He's at .259/.325/.415 (.740) for the year now. On July 1st, he was .247/.305/.365 (.671). Now that's what you call a performance jump.

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Dominguez has sure found is stroke.

 

July - 7 games, 23 AB, 9 H, .391/.516/1.000 (1.516), 4 HR, 6/4 BB/K.

 

Good lord.

 

He's at .259/.325/.415 (.740) for the year now. On July 1st, he was .247/.305/.365 (.671). Now that's what you call a performance jump.

 

 

Yeah, it's great to see such a large jump in his statistics. I wish I could actually watch him progress.

Logan with a 1.43 BB/K now lol

 

and first time in his career he's actually hitting LHP. likely just an anomaly though.

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Daily Farm Reports -- 7/8

 

AAA -- New Orleans

New Orleans 8, Omaha 1

 

Cameron Maybin - CF: 2-4, RBI, 2SO

Gaby Sanchez - 3B: 1-3, RBI, R, BB

Jai Miller - RF: 2-4, HR, RBI, R

John Raynor - LF: 0-2, R, 2BB, 2SO

Brett Hayes - C: 0-3, RBI, SO

Rick VandenHurk - SP: (W) 7IP, 2ER, 3SO, 2HR, 5H, 2R

Dallas Trahern: DNP

 

AA -- Jacksonville

NO GAME TODAY

 

High A -- Jupiter

Jupiter 4, Charlotte 7

 

Matt Dominguez - 3B: 1-4

Alejandro Sanabia: DNP

Elih Villanueva - SP: (L) 5.2IP, 5ER, 7K, 3BB, 7H, 5R

Jeff Allison: DNP

 

A -- Greensboro

Greensboro 8, Hagerstown 1

 

Isaac Galloway - CF: 1-5, R, 2B

Jake Smolinski - 3B: 2-5, 2R, 2B, RBI, SO

Kyle Kaminska - SP: (W) 7IP, ER, 3K, 4BB, 5H, R

Brad Hand: DNP

 

Low A -- Jamestown

Jamestown 4, Williamsport 3

 

Blake Brewer: DNP

Curtis Petersen: DNP

 

Gulf Coast League -- Marlins

Marlins 4, Cardinals 6

 

Marquise Cooper - CF: 0AB

Hodges: DNP

Cooper: DNP

Dominguez has sure found is stroke.

 

July - 7 games, 23 AB, 9 H, .391/.516/1.000 (1.516), 4 HR, 6/4 BB/K.

 

Good lord.

 

He's at .259/.325/.415 (.740) for the year now. On July 1st, he was .247/.305/.365 (.671). Now that's what you call a performance jump.

 

 

To put it in perspective, he's hit more homers in his last 9 games than he did in his previous 70. Yeah, I'd say that stroke is coming around.

Great to see John Raynor heat up over the past 3 games (3-4), (2-5), and (2-5). 7 for his last 14 in total. Contrary to many people on this board, I believe Raynor can really help a major league team with his speed and defense.

 

He's an average defender at best.

 

 

Really? Because I've actually seen him play and his 15 outfield assists in 2007, his 11 outfield assists in 2008, and his range would prove you are wrong. You can't just say he's average with nothing to backup. Is this a guess or have you actually been to more than 10 plus games to watch him make diving catches like I have?

 

Last season he batted .356 (53-for-149) against left-handed pitchers and .290 (88-for-303) vs. righties. ... Was named a Southern League midseason and postseason All-Star.

 

 

I think he would do fine in our lineup with Cogs batting 2nd and Hermida gone. Even if not a starter, I think he's much better than DeAza off the bench.

 

This season in steals he is 11 of his last 13. And anyone with a career success rate of 83% (134 steals/27 caught) would be an asset to a ball club.

 

Think of a better hitting/defender/and more intelligent base runner than Bonifacio.

Great to see John Raynor heat up over the past 3 games (3-4), (2-5), and (2-5). 7 for his last 14 in total. Contrary to many people on this board, I believe Raynor can really help a major league team with his speed and defense.

 

He's an average defender at best.

 

 

Really? Because I've actually seen him play and his 15 outfield assists in 2007, his 11 outfield assists in 2008, and his range would prove you are wrong. You can't just say he's average with nothing to backup. Is this a guess or have you actually been to more than 10 plus games to watch him make diving catches like I have?

 

Last season he batted .356 (53-for-149) against left-handed pitchers and .290 (88-for-303) vs. righties. ... Was named a Southern League midseason and postseason All-Star.

 

 

I think he would do fine in our lineup with Cogs batting 2nd and Hermida gone. Even if not a starter, I think he's much better than DeAza off the bench.

 

This season in steals he is 11 of his last 13. And anyone with a career success rate of 83% (134 steals/27 caught) would be an asset to a ball club.

 

Think of a better hitting/defender/and more intelligent base runner than Bonifacio.

I have no problem whatsoever with the Bonifacio comment. And maybe the De Aza comment (longterm, no question with Raynor, but right now Raynor is really sucking in AAA and would whiff a ton at the MLB level. Needs some more work/time).

 

However, YOU watching some games does nothing at saying his defense is average. And I don't know what you're talking about with backing things up. Scouting reports (BA, BP, FF, etc) are nearly universal that he is an average defender from my recollection, that he has a weak arm (assists are not a reflection of a strong throwing arm), and that he will not be a longterm CF defensively (very important because his bat does not project for power in a corner). You can stomp your feet all you want, but it doesn't mean you are right compared to the wealth of knowledge out there on him. Speed is great for range, but a lot of more things go into a defensive value than range. You should know that by now with watching this franchise. Juan Pierre wasn't/isn't a very good fielding center fielder despite his speed out there. I don't know how old you are, but the same thing applies with a Chuch Carr. He made awesome diving catches every week, but he still was not a very talented fielder.

 

Last season, Raynor had a BABIP over .400. This season was predictable as no one can sustain a BABIP that high. He was always going to level out. Also, who cares he was a mid and post season allstar. AA awards mean nothing to production in the major leagues. He'll be a low 700 OPSing bat in the majors in a best case scenario. A nice 4th or 5th speedy outfielder to hopefully compliment slugging Maybin-Stanton-Morrison/Cousins/Petersen/Whoever.

Kind of troubling to see Sanabia's K rate dropping with his stuff. It might just be an anomaly though. You can only draw so many conclusions when you don't see these guys play everyday. Hopefully he continues to get back on track after an atrocious June.

 

You have to wonder how much longer they can keep Maybin in NO. He's done everything he can possibly do to get called up (minus the homers but still slugging .484) including, most importantly, improving his plate discipline which was cited as the main reason he was sent down (22 walks to 27 K's).

 

One argument with Maybin is service time. If they keep him down until September, he will probably avoid being a Super 2 thus delaying arbitration a season. He'd be around .130 or so days if I did the math right, and lately around 140 days is the cut off. He would shockingly cost the minimum 2010, 2011, and 2012, if they do that. He's already eligible for the playoff roster, so if they think they don't need him, might as well save the money in 2012.

 

 

I'm really showing my ignorance here, but could you explain what a Super 2 is? I'd rather get it from someone knowledgeable on here, isntead of googling it. Thanks.

 

 

-Tampa kept David Price down in the minors until June for this exact reason. Price will not qualify for Super 2 now. He will be eligible for arbitration 2013. Rights through 2015.

 

 

There was a lot more to that decision than just service time. The heart of the matter was that the Rays could not have kept Jeff Niemann if they would have started Price in the majors. And given the other advantages of keeping Price down and the obvious fact (now) that he need a bit more work, it was obviously the right decision.

 

I've grown to resent the criticism that teams like TB get every time they send down a high profile player. People seem to interpret these moves as 100 percent financial when in fact, they are sound baseball moves.

Great to see John Raynor heat up over the past 3 games (3-4), (2-5), and (2-5). 7 for his last 14 in total. Contrary to many people on this board, I believe Raynor can really help a major league team with his speed and defense.

 

He's an average defender at best.

 

 

Really? Because I've actually seen him play and his 15 outfield assists in 2007, his 11 outfield assists in 2008, and his range would prove you are wrong. You can't just say he's average with nothing to backup. Is this a guess or have you actually been to more than 10 plus games to watch him make diving catches like I have?

 

Last season he batted .356 (53-for-149) against left-handed pitchers and .290 (88-for-303) vs. righties. ... Was named a Southern League midseason and postseason All-Star.

 

 

I think he would do fine in our lineup with Cogs batting 2nd and Hermida gone. Even if not a starter, I think he's much better than DeAza off the bench.

 

This season in steals he is 11 of his last 13. And anyone with a career success rate of 83% (134 steals/27 caught) would be an asset to a ball club.

 

Think of a better hitting/defender/and more intelligent base runner than Bonifacio.

I have no problem whatsoever with the Bonifacio comment. And maybe the De Aza comment (longterm, no question with Raynor, but right now Raynor is really sucking in AAA and would whiff a ton at the MLB level. Needs some more work/time).

 

However, YOU watching some games does nothing at saying his defense is average. And I don't know what you're talking about with backing things up. Scouting reports (BA, BP, FF, etc) are nearly universal that he is an average defender from my recollection, that he has a weak arm (assists are not a reflection of a strong throwing arm), and that he will not be a longterm CF defensively (very important because his bat does not project for power in a corner). You can stomp your feet all you want, but it doesn't mean you are right compared to the wealth of knowledge out there on him. Speed is great for range, but a lot of more things go into a defensive value than range. You should know that by now with watching this franchise. Juan Pierre wasn't/isn't a very good fielding center fielder despite his speed out there. I don't know how old you are, but the same thing applies with a Chuch Carr. He made awesome diving catches every week, but he still was not a very talented fielder.

 

Last season, Raynor had a BABIP over .400. This season was predictable as no one can sustain a BABIP that high. He was always going to level out. Also, who cares he was a mid and post season allstar. AA awards mean nothing to production in the major leagues. He'll be a low 700 OPSing bat in the majors in a best case scenario. A nice 4th or 5th speedy outfielder to hopefully compliment slugging Maybin-Stanton-Morrison/Cousins/Petersen/Whoever.

 

I find it funny to debate the debate the merits of Raynor's bat as a starting caliber corner OF, when right now we have a second basemen playing in LF. Teams are so incredibly stupid these days when they take bats that are good for an infield position and move them to the OF, where they are below average.

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Daily Farm Reports -- 7/9

 

AAA -- New Orleans

New Orleans 4, Iowa 3 F/10

 

Cameron Maybin - CF: 2-5, 2SO

Gaby Sanchez - 3B: 3-4, 2RBI

Jai Miller - RF: 1-4, R, 2B

John Raynor - LF: 1-3, R, BB

Brett Hayes - C: 0-3, RBI, SO

Rick VandenHurk: DNP

Dallas Trahern: DNP

 

AA -- Jacksonville UPDATED

Jacksonville 1, Carolina 2

 

Michael Stanton: DNP

Logan Morrison - 1B: 1-5, 3SO

Scott Cousins - CF: 1-5, HR, RBI, R, SO

 

High A -- Jupiter

POSTPONED: RAIN

 

A -- Greensboro

Greensboro 1, Hagerstown 6

 

Kyle Skipworth - C: 2-4, RBI, 2B, SO

Isaac Galloway - RF: 0-4

Jake Smolinski - 3B: 2-4

Kyle Kaminska: DNP

Brad Hand: DNP

 

Low A -- Jamestown

Jamestown 7, Williamsport 3

 

Blake Brewer: DNP

Curtis Petersen: DNP

 

Gulf Coast League -- Marlins

Marlins 2, Mets 6

 

Marquise Cooper: DNP

Joshua Hodges - SP: (L) 1.2IP, 3ER, 3BB, 0K, 4H, 3R

Was this his first start of the year? If it was, it was a bit of a rough one.

Olmos: DNP

 

Sorry I didn't get this in last night. I was pretty tired after the exciting game last night!

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Nice to see Skipworth get some hits coming back from the DL

 

 

Yeah, I was very surprised that he is back off the DL so soon. Let's hope he can start to rebound from the awful season he's had so far.

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AA -- Jacksonville

GAME was not POSTPONED they played a game for 7/09/09

 

 

Ok, wow...sorry it was early this morning that I did this. I'll fix it and I'm going to ensure my work from now on. 100% guarantee. Wow, that is bad.

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Daily Farm Report -- 7/10

 

AAA -- New Orleans

New Orleans 6, Omaha 2

 

Cameron Maybin - CF: 2-4, HR, 2RBI, R

Gaby Sanchez - 3B: 1-4, R, SO

Jai Miller - RF: 2-4, 2HR, 2RBI, 2R

Brett Hayes - C: 1-4, SO

Greg Raynor - LF: 0-2, 2SO, 2BB

 

AA -- Jacksonville

Jacksonville 2, Carolina 1

 

Mike Stanton - RF: 0-3, RBI, BB, SO

Logan Morrison - 1B: 0-4, BB

Scott Cousins - LF: 0-3, BB

 

High A -- Jupiter

Jupiter 3, Charlotte 4

 

Matt Dominguez - 3B: 0-2, R, BB, 2SO

Alejandro Sanabia - SP: (L) 3.2IP, 4ER, 4BB, 5K, 6H, 4R

 

A -- Greensboro

Greensboro 5, Hagerstown 10

 

Isaac Galloway - CF: 1-5, R, 2SO

Kyle Skipworth - C: 0-3

 

Low A -- Jamestown

Jamestown 3, State College 5

 

Curtis Petersen - SP: 5IP, 2ER, 3K, 3BB, 4H, 2R

 

Gulf Coast League -- Marlins

Marlins 2, Mets 6

 

Marquis Cooper: DNP

 

I am going to be in St. Louis tomorrow night and Sunday to see the Futures All-Star Game. I'm going to try to get Mike Stanton autograph an official baseball. I'm pretty excited, so I will not be able to update tomorrow's DFR. I will update it when I get home on Sunday.

Maybin needs to get called up after the All Star break. He's killing AAA, hopefully it can translate to the bigs and I'm sure it will.

It seems like every game, Dominguez gets a walk. He's been really impressive.

Have fun at the game, lucky.

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