July 16, 200916 yr Offense: C+ Rotation: B+ Bullpen: B+ Defense: D+ Overall: B- Prediction: 3rd in NL East 82-80 My heart says: 88-74 Wildcard Take 3 of 4 v. Phillies and start the 2nd half Right! Lets Go Fish! My heart wants the wildcard but it looks like someone in the NL West will win it. I just want to win the damn division and be the only team in the NL East to make the playoffs to shut those stupid Phillie and Met fans up.
July 16, 200916 yr Did anyone see the grade that MLB Network guys gave the Marlins? I just missed it. http://msn.foxsports...rades?GT1=39002 Thanks, but I wasn't referring to Fox Sports. sorry, I googled "mlb network midseason grades" and without looking that was the first thing that was linked, thought it was the MLB Network one, sorry No biggie dude, it's on again.
July 16, 200916 yr Starting Pitching: B- Bullpen: B+ Hitting: C+ Bench: B Fielding C- Overall Rating: B- Most Pleasant Surprise: Calero and Meyer, terrific work in the pen. All around play of Cody Most Disappointing: Situational hitting again a major problem. Fielding of infield and Hermida continues to suck. Eyesore Award: 50% of Uggla's at bats. His outs are the ugliest in baseball...the lunging K's, hopeless swings at breaking balls in the dirt or a foot outside, cueshot grounders. Ouch Easy on the Eyes: JJ in control. Hanley and Cody depositing hanging sliders in the upper deck. 11-1....8-24....27-19 So who are we? My predictions: We go 85-77, second in the East. Phils win division. Giants win wild card. We need a consistent second half pitching stud to go with JJ and to counter our inconsistent bats
July 16, 200916 yr Here's a brief report on what they said about the NL East on MLB Network: Phillies: B- "Starters must pitch better" Marlins: B "Who Will Close? Average all around. Incosistant Offense, power lacking. Brightest spot is starting pitching, Nolasco coming around." Braves: C "Not enough offensive power" Mets: C- "Injuries and Fundamentals have ruined them. Terrible defensively. Need big changes" Nationals: F "Poor fundamentals, terrible defense and bullpen."
July 16, 200916 yr Here's a brief report on what they said about the NL East on MLB Network: Phillies: B- "Starters must pitch better" Marlins: B "Who Will Close? Average all around. Incosistant Offense, power lacking. Brightest spot is starting pitching, Nolasco coming around." Do they not know who leads the division by 4 games?
July 16, 200916 yr Here's a brief report on what they said about the NL East on MLB Network: Phillies: B- "Starters must pitch better" Marlins: B "Who Will Close? Average all around. Incosistant Offense, power lacking. Brightest spot is starting pitching, Nolasco coming around." Do they not know who leads the division by 4 games? And their point was the fact that they ONLY lead by 4 games. They also claimed how we came out of nowhere.
July 16, 200916 yr Starting pitching- A- Bullpen- C Hitting- B Bench- B+ Fielding- C- Rotation should be better in the second half with Nolasco coming around. Bullpen is a toss up. Hopefully Lindstrom is better when he comes back, and there have been a few additions, but still not sure if Calero and Meyer can keep on being as great as they were in the first half.
July 16, 200916 yr Starting pitching- B+ JJ is the man and everyone else is O.K. Bullpen- B (this is because they haven't cost the team too many losses, yeah at times they haven't pitched well, but still they haven't cost the team many games) Hitting- C- (situational hitting and we have 1 guy hitting over .300) Bench- C Fielding- F (Marlins are top 3 team in errors in the majoe leagues) Anything hit to Dan Uggla isn't going to be caught and don't count on Hanley diving for a ball this season (he's got to protect that shoulder) Amezaga is the teams best fielder and he is out. Managment- F (Fredi doesn't know how to manage a bullpen-Kiko and Pinto will end up on the DL again. Mark Wiley doesn't know what he is doing.) Overall grade: C or C+
July 16, 200916 yr I think it's a valid point that the Phils should be further ahead, but injuries and starting pitching problems have held them back. Anyway, here's what I am giving the team: Starting Pitching: B -Johnson has been lights out. Chris Volstad has been good, with a couple of minor hiccups. Nolasco is still working on things, but for the most part it's getting better. Andrew Miller has been a borderline catastrophe, and has pitched maybe one decent game the whole year. Anibal Sanchez struggled, and is now on the DL for the foreseeable future. Sean West wasn't half bad, but struggled as his time in the majors wore on. He'll be a major factor later in the season, and especially next year. Many of the fill-in starters were abysmal, like John Koronka and Graham Taylor. Relief Pitching: C- -Many, many issues here. After trading the inconsistent Kevin Gregg, the Fish hand the closer's role to Matt Lindstrom, who so far has been 10 times more inconsistent than Gregg ever was. The lack of a true closer has been a major downside for the Fish. Unfortunately many of us saw this coming. Leo Nunez has been good, with some struggles. Kiko Calero, a non-roster invitee from Spring Training, has been the team's best reliever all season. He has saved many games from falling into the toilet. Two relievers that began the season with the Marlins, Logan Kensing and Hayden Penn, were both let go after a series of disastrous appearances. Dan Meyer, the team's lefty specialist, has been unhittable and a pleasant surprise for the team. Renyel Pinto has struggled many times, but has been more good than bad overall. Burke Badenhop, the long reliever, has improved greatly from a bad 2008 season. Brian Sanches has been adequate at times, but absolutely awful on other occasions. Hitting: B- -As usual, no one needs to worry about Hanley performing. Jorge Cantu has been relatively consistent, although had a major power outage during the last month. Baker hasn't been that great at the plate, but he's still an improvement over anything we had before him last season. Of course, Dan Uggla seems to enjoy either looking like a fool striking out, or like a Greek God hitting towering homeruns. Unfortunately, most of what we end up with is the former. I don't think anything else needs to be said about Bonifacio's issues. Chris Coghlan has been a decent fill-in in left field, but has not completely figured out major league hitting yet. Cody Ross, for the first time given a permanent starting job, has proven that he deserves it. Right now he is our best outfielder offensively. Not much needs to be said about Jeremy Hermida's myriad of issues, either... Bench: B- -Backup catcher Ronny Paulino has turned into a great addition for the team from the bench. Same with Ross Gload, who has been the best player on the team's bench all season. Veteran Wes Helms has had little success at the plate, but is a great defensive substitution later in games. Brett Carroll has greatly improved on his previous track record of below mediocre hitting. He's on the verge of earning himself a longer-term starting job, if he keeps up the hitting. Although not initially a bench player, Cameron Maybin was a colossal failure when he spent a month with the team in April. Hopefully he will improve when he comes back up later in the season. Fielding: D -Unfortunately this team has yet to improve much at all from the horrible performance in 2008 which greatly hampered them. The addition of Emilio Bonifacio to the infield has made the infield's defense far worse. Coaching: C -The coaching staff seems to have developed a habit for making implausible strategic decisions this year, particularly in regards to the bullpen. Many mistakes have been made in choosing whether or not to go after a particular hitter, more than last season. The coaches invested too much patience in players like Maybin, Bonifacio, Kensing, Lindstrom, and Miller. The result of this was games getting out of hand when they never needed to. Although they seem to have fixed some of the over-confidence in Matt Lindstrom, if anything they have swung too far to the opposite side, not letting their closer get out of a jam with two outs. Instead they have made a pitching change on more than one occasion when there were two outs with one or less runners on base at the time. This is only going to make things worse. Overall: B- -As a whole this season, the starting pitching has kept the team in many games that the inconsistent offense would otherwise have lost. Unfortunately, in games where the pitchers struggled, the offense rarely lifted them up with a big performance. The bullpen has had long stretches where they kept the team in games, but just as many where they blew games. The lack of a closer to lock up the ends of close games will likely be the team's undoing if no changes are made. Some addition needs to be made on offense, particularly at 3rd base or in right or left field. It would be nice if the defense would improve, but I'm afraid that the coaching has done everything they can to fix the problem by this point. Likely team finish: 2nd place, no wild-card. 83-87 wins.
July 16, 200916 yr I think it's a valid point that the Phils should be further ahead, but injuries and starting pitching problems have held them back. Anyway, here's what I am giving the team: Starting Pitching: B -Johnson has been lights out. Chris Volstad has been good, with a couple of minor hiccups. Nolasco is still working on things, but for the most part it's getting better. Andrew Miller has been a borderline catastrophe, and has pitched maybe one decent game the whole year. Anibal Sanchez struggled, and is now on the DL for the foreseeable future. Sean West wasn't half bad, but struggled as his time in the majors wore on. He'll be a major factor later in the season, and especially next year. Many of the fill-in starters were abysmal, like John Koronka and Graham Taylor. Relief Pitching: C- -Many, many issues here. After trading the inconsistent Kevin Gregg, the Fish hand the closer's role to Matt Lindstrom, who so far has been 10 times more inconsistent than Gregg ever was. The lack of a true closer has been a major downside for the Fish. Unfortunately many of us saw this coming. Leo Nunez has been good, with some struggles. Kiko Calero, a non-roster invitee from Spring Training, has been the team's best reliever all season. He has saved many games from falling into the toilet. Two relievers that began the season with the Marlins, Logan Kensing and Hayden Penn, were both let go after a series of disastrous appearances. Dan Meyer, the team's lefty specialist, has been unhittable and a pleasant surprise for the team. Renyel Pinto has struggled many times, but has been more good than bad overall. Burke Badenhop, the long reliever, has improved greatly from a bad 2008 season. Brian Sanches has been adequate at times, but absolutely awful on other occasions. Hitting: B- -As usual, no one needs to worry about Hanley performing. Jorge Cantu has been relatively consistent, although had a major power outage during the last month. Baker hasn't been that great at the plate, but he's still an improvement over anything we had before him last season. Of course, Dan Uggla seems to enjoy either looking like a fool striking out, or like a Greek God hitting towering homeruns. Unfortunately, most of what we end up with is the former. I don't think anything else needs to be said about Bonifacio's issues. Chris Coghlan has been a decent fill-in in left field, but has not completely figured out major league hitting yet. Cody Ross, for the first time given a permanent starting job, has proven that he deserves it. Right now he is our best outfielder offensively. Not much needs to be said about Jeremy Hermida's myriad of issues, either... Bench: B- -Backup catcher Ronny Paulino has turned into a great addition for the team from the bench. Same with Ross Gload, who has been the best player on the team's bench all season. Veteran Wes Helms has had little success at the plate, but is a great defensive substitution later in games. Brett Carroll has greatly improved on his previous track record of below mediocre hitting. He's on the verge of earning himself a longer-term starting job, if he keeps up the hitting. Although not initially a bench player, Cameron Maybin was a colossal failure when he spent a month with the team in April. Hopefully he will improve when he comes back up later in the season. Fielding: D -Unfortunately this team has yet to improve much at all from the horrible performance in 2008 which greatly hampered them. The addition of Emilio Bonifacio to the infield has made the infield's defense far worse. Coaching: C -The coaching staff seems to have developed a habit for making implausible strategic decisions this year, particularly in regards to the bullpen. Many mistakes have been made in choosing whether or not to go after a particular hitter, more than last season. The coaches invested too much patience in players like Maybin, Bonifacio, Kensing, Lindstrom, and Miller. The result of this was games getting out of hand when they never needed to. Although they seem to have fixed some of the over-confidence in Matt Lindstrom, if anything they have swung too far to the opposite side, not letting their closer get out of a jam with two outs. Instead they have made a pitching change on more than one occasion when there were two outs with one or less runners on base at the time. This is only going to make things worse. Overall: B- -As a whole this season, the starting pitching has kept the team in many games that the inconsistent offense would otherwise have lost. Unfortunately, in games where the pitchers struggled, the offense rarely lifted them up with a big performance. The bullpen has had long stretches where they kept the team in games, but just as many where they blew games. The lack of a closer to lock up the ends of close games will likely be the team's undoing if no changes are made. Some addition needs to be made on offense, particularly at 3rd base or in right or left field. It would be nice if the defense would improve, but I'm afraid that the coaching has done everything they can to fix the problem by this point. Likely team finish: 2nd place, no wild-card. 83-87 wins. :blink: Explain yourself.
July 16, 200916 yr I really don't like what I see from him overall. I haven't seen much improvement as the season has progressed. I feel like at best he'll be an OK left-handed option, or a 4th/5th starter.
July 16, 200916 yr I really don't like what I see from him overall. I haven't seen much improvement as the season has progressed. I feel like at best he'll be an OK left-handed option, or a 4th/5th starter. I definitely like what I see him since he's been back from the DL this year than the Andrew Miller before. When he is on, he shows flashes of brilliance that we hoped to receive after the Miggy trade. For instance, the 7-inning one hitter he threw against Baltimore (in which we blew and had to re-win it) on 06/23. It does seem though that after every good start he has, he follows with a bad one.
July 16, 200916 yr I think it's a valid point that the Phils should be further ahead, but injuries and starting pitching problems have held them back. Anyway, here's what I am giving the team: Starting Pitching: B -Johnson has been lights out. Chris Volstad has been good, with a couple of minor hiccups. Nolasco is still working on things, but for the most part it's getting better. Andrew Miller has been a borderline catastrophe, and has pitched maybe one decent game the whole year. Anibal Sanchez struggled, and is now on the DL for the foreseeable future. Sean West wasn't half bad, but struggled as his time in the majors wore on. He'll be a major factor later in the season, and especially next year. Many of the fill-in starters were abysmal, like John Koronka and Graham Taylor. Relief Pitching: C- -Many, many issues here. After trading the inconsistent Kevin Gregg, the Fish hand the closer's role to Matt Lindstrom, who so far has been 10 times more inconsistent than Gregg ever was. The lack of a true closer has been a major downside for the Fish. Unfortunately many of us saw this coming. Leo Nunez has been good, with some struggles. Kiko Calero, a non-roster invitee from Spring Training, has been the team's best reliever all season. He has saved many games from falling into the toilet. Two relievers that began the season with the Marlins, Logan Kensing and Hayden Penn, were both let go after a series of disastrous appearances. Dan Meyer, the team's lefty specialist, has been unhittable and a pleasant surprise for the team. Renyel Pinto has struggled many times, but has been more good than bad overall. Burke Badenhop, the long reliever, has improved greatly from a bad 2008 season. Brian Sanches has been adequate at times, but absolutely awful on other occasions. Hitting: B- -As usual, no one needs to worry about Hanley performing. Jorge Cantu has been relatively consistent, although had a major power outage during the last month. Baker hasn't been that great at the plate, but he's still an improvement over anything we had before him last season. Of course, Dan Uggla seems to enjoy either looking like a fool striking out, or like a Greek God hitting towering homeruns. Unfortunately, most of what we end up with is the former. I don't think anything else needs to be said about Bonifacio's issues. Chris Coghlan has been a decent fill-in in left field, but has not completely figured out major league hitting yet. Cody Ross, for the first time given a permanent starting job, has proven that he deserves it. Right now he is our best outfielder offensively. Not much needs to be said about Jeremy Hermida's myriad of issues, either... Bench: B- -Backup catcher Ronny Paulino has turned into a great addition for the team from the bench. Same with Ross Gload, who has been the best player on the team's bench all season. Veteran Wes Helms has had little success at the plate, but is a great defensive substitution later in games. Brett Carroll has greatly improved on his previous track record of below mediocre hitting. He's on the verge of earning himself a longer-term starting job, if he keeps up the hitting. Although not initially a bench player, Cameron Maybin was a colossal failure when he spent a month with the team in April. Hopefully he will improve when he comes back up later in the season. Fielding: D -Unfortunately this team has yet to improve much at all from the horrible performance in 2008 which greatly hampered them. The addition of Emilio Bonifacio to the infield has made the infield's defense far worse. Coaching: C -The coaching staff seems to have developed a habit for making implausible strategic decisions this year, particularly in regards to the bullpen. Many mistakes have been made in choosing whether or not to go after a particular hitter, more than last season. The coaches invested too much patience in players like Maybin, Bonifacio, Kensing, Lindstrom, and Miller. The result of this was games getting out of hand when they never needed to. Although they seem to have fixed some of the over-confidence in Matt Lindstrom, if anything they have swung too far to the opposite side, not letting their closer get out of a jam with two outs. Instead they have made a pitching change on more than one occasion when there were two outs with one or less runners on base at the time. This is only going to make things worse. Overall: B- -As a whole this season, the starting pitching has kept the team in many games that the inconsistent offense would otherwise have lost. Unfortunately, in games where the pitchers struggled, the offense rarely lifted them up with a big performance. The bullpen has had long stretches where they kept the team in games, but just as many where they blew games. The lack of a closer to lock up the ends of close games will likely be the team's undoing if no changes are made. Some addition needs to be made on offense, particularly at 3rd base or in right or left field. It would be nice if the defense would improve, but I'm afraid that the coaching has done everything they can to fix the problem by this point. Likely team finish: 2nd place, no wild-card. 83-87 wins. Explain yourself. I stopped reading that post after he stated that. One decent start, please.
July 16, 200916 yr I really don't like what I see from him overall. I haven't seen much improvement as the season has progressed. I feel like at best he'll be an OK left-handed option, or a 4th/5th starter. Fine (even though I diasgree). But "one decent start" is a joke. Just makes it look like you hate the guy and didn't to your research. And "borderline catastraphe" is a joke as well, considering he's lowered his ERA nearly 2.5 full runs since returning from his injury.
July 17, 200916 yr Starting Pitching: B- Bullpen: B+ Offense: B- Defense: D Manager: D Erik, I don't agree with you very much because you hate on my boy, however, I am going to agree with you here. (not that you care but for what it's worth) I think you are being overly fair on the offense. Noone outside of Hanley Ramirez is a threat in that lineup. I gave the offense a C.
July 17, 200916 yr I think it's a valid point that the Phils should be further ahead, but injuries and starting pitching problems have held them back. Anyway, here's what I am giving the team: Starting Pitching: B -Johnson has been lights out. Chris Volstad has been good, with a couple of minor hiccups. Nolasco is still working on things, but for the most part it's getting better. Andrew Miller has been a borderline catastrophe, and has pitched maybe one decent game the whole year. Anibal Sanchez struggled, and is now on the DL for the foreseeable future. Sean West wasn't half bad, but struggled as his time in the majors wore on. He'll be a major factor later in the season, and especially next year. Many of the fill-in starters were abysmal, like John Koronka and Graham Taylor. Relief Pitching: C- -Many, many issues here. After trading the inconsistent Kevin Gregg, the Fish hand the closer's role to Matt Lindstrom, who so far has been 10 times more inconsistent than Gregg ever was. The lack of a true closer has been a major downside for the Fish. Unfortunately many of us saw this coming. Leo Nunez has been good, with some struggles. Kiko Calero, a non-roster invitee from Spring Training, has been the team's best reliever all season. He has saved many games from falling into the toilet. Two relievers that began the season with the Marlins, Logan Kensing and Hayden Penn, were both let go after a series of disastrous appearances. Dan Meyer, the team's lefty specialist, has been unhittable and a pleasant surprise for the team. Renyel Pinto has struggled many times, but has been more good than bad overall. Burke Badenhop, the long reliever, has improved greatly from a bad 2008 season. Brian Sanches has been adequate at times, but absolutely awful on other occasions. Hitting: B- -As usual, no one needs to worry about Hanley performing. Jorge Cantu has been relatively consistent, although had a major power outage during the last month. Baker hasn't been that great at the plate, but he's still an improvement over anything we had before him last season. Of course, Dan Uggla seems to enjoy either looking like a fool striking out, or like a Greek God hitting towering homeruns. Unfortunately, most of what we end up with is the former. I don't think anything else needs to be said about Bonifacio's issues. Chris Coghlan has been a decent fill-in in left field, but has not completely figured out major league hitting yet. Cody Ross, for the first time given a permanent starting job, has proven that he deserves it. Right now he is our best outfielder offensively. Not much needs to be said about Jeremy Hermida's myriad of issues, either... Bench: B- -Backup catcher Ronny Paulino has turned into a great addition for the team from the bench. Same with Ross Gload, who has been the best player on the team's bench all season. Veteran Wes Helms has had little success at the plate, but is a great defensive substitution later in games. Brett Carroll has greatly improved on his previous track record of below mediocre hitting. He's on the verge of earning himself a longer-term starting job, if he keeps up the hitting. Although not initially a bench player, Cameron Maybin was a colossal failure when he spent a month with the team in April. Hopefully he will improve when he comes back up later in the season. Fielding: D -Unfortunately this team has yet to improve much at all from the horrible performance in 2008 which greatly hampered them. The addition of Emilio Bonifacio to the infield has made the infield's defense far worse. Coaching: C -The coaching staff seems to have developed a habit for making implausible strategic decisions this year, particularly in regards to the bullpen. Many mistakes have been made in choosing whether or not to go after a particular hitter, more than last season. The coaches invested too much patience in players like Maybin, Bonifacio, Kensing, Lindstrom, and Miller. The result of this was games getting out of hand when they never needed to. Although they seem to have fixed some of the over-confidence in Matt Lindstrom, if anything they have swung too far to the opposite side, not letting their closer get out of a jam with two outs. Instead they have made a pitching change on more than one occasion when there were two outs with one or less runners on base at the time. This is only going to make things worse. Overall: B- -As a whole this season, the starting pitching has kept the team in many games that the inconsistent offense would otherwise have lost. Unfortunately, in games where the pitchers struggled, the offense rarely lifted them up with a big performance. The bullpen has had long stretches where they kept the team in games, but just as many where they blew games. The lack of a closer to lock up the ends of close games will likely be the team's undoing if no changes are made. Some addition needs to be made on offense, particularly at 3rd base or in right or left field. It would be nice if the defense would improve, but I'm afraid that the coaching has done everything they can to fix the problem by this point. Likely team finish: 2nd place, no wild-card. 83-87 wins. More inconsistent? Hardly. He has blown 2 saves this whole year and the one he did blow the Fish won. Gregg blew 4 saves his first year as closer and 9 in his second year. We will see where he is at after 2 years of closing. Stay tuned.
July 17, 200916 yr I don't get how people can give the bullpen an A-/B+. I don't get how people can give the bullpen a low grade, to be honest with you. Hayden Penn, Christian Martinez, Chris Leroux, Logan Kensing, etc. are no longer here. The important guys in our pen have done the job. (except for Lindstrom, who was inconsistent...but at the end of the day, he cost us a game...and no, this isn't an argument I like to use...but for team purposes, it is true).
July 17, 200916 yr I don't get how people can give the bullpen an A-/B+. I don't get how people can give the bullpen a low grade, to be honest with you. Hayden Penn, Christian Martinez, Chris Leroux, Logan Kensing, etc. are no longer here. The important guys in our pen have done the job. (except for Lindstrom, who was inconsistent...but at the end of the day, he cost us a game...and no, this isn't an argument I like to use...but for team purposes, it is true). This.
July 17, 200916 yr I don't get how people can give the bullpen an A-/B+. I don't get how people can give the bullpen a low grade, to be honest with you. Hayden Penn, Christian Martinez, Chris Leroux, Logan Kensing, etc. are no longer here. The important guys in our pen have done the job. (except for Lindstrom, who was inconsistent...but at the end of the day, he cost us a game...and no, this isn't an argument I like to use...but for team purposes, it is true). The pen has done a nice job. The real thing to worry about is that the back end is paper-thin and could blow the whole thing out of proportion if we lost Nunez or Meyer. But a lot of guys have done a terrific job in their roles and as long as they stay in their roles we are gonna be fine. Except Pinto still sucks.
July 17, 200916 yr I don't get how people can give the bullpen an A-/B+. I don't get how people can give the bullpen a low grade, to be honest with you. Hayden Penn, Christian Martinez, Chris Leroux, Logan Kensing, etc. are no longer here. The important guys in our pen have done the job. (except for Lindstrom, who was inconsistent...but at the end of the day, he cost us a game...and no, this isn't an argument I like to use...but for team purposes, it is true). But the thread is grade the first half. Not how will they do going forward. Our bullpen is 9th out of 16 in the NL. so if 8 = exactly a C as C = average, I'd say bullpen would get a C.
July 17, 200916 yr I don't get how people can give the bullpen an A-/B+. I don't get how people can give the bullpen a low grade, to be honest with you. Hayden Penn, Christian Martinez, Chris Leroux, Logan Kensing, etc. are no longer here. The important guys in our pen have done the job. (except for Lindstrom, who was inconsistent...but at the end of the day, he cost us a game...and no, this isn't an argument I like to use...but for team purposes, it is true). But the thread is grade the first half. Not how will they do going forward. Our bullpen is 9th out of 16 in the NL. so if 8 = exactly a C as C = average, I'd say bullpen would get a C. By what standard are they ninth though? I don't think most of the people here are grading the bullpen by what they will do as opposed to how they've done. If you are judging by ERA or something, that might not tell the whole story. What people are saying is that the guys who needed to get the job done got it done more often than not when the game is on the line. I'm sure some bad outings by Penn, Lindstrom, and others resulted in some awkward lines. But outings like Penn's were in long relief, when our starters had already been out of the game and it was for the most part out of reach. And Lindstrom did have some crappy outings, but those outings still didn't lose but one or two games and make things a heck of a lot more exciting than they needed to be. The bottom line is that our bullpen was actually above average at holding leads, and that is their primary job. They don't get an A, but they don't deserve a C either.
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