July 22, 200916 yr I have no idea what compels people to not only have thoughts like that, but to also articulate them in print, and then to post said articulation in a public forum.... It was a stupid thing to say. OK. But I do think there is a lot a baseball talent across this country and for some reason many of those players end up on other teams.
July 22, 200916 yr Like our whole outfield, starting catcher and starting 2nd baseman? And half of our current rotation? And the first 3 guys off our bench?
July 22, 200916 yr Author Like our whole outfield, starting catcher and starting 2nd baseman? And half of our current rotation? And the first 3 guys off our bench? And about half our bullpen? EDIT: Not sure if you included the bullpen when you said "rotation."
July 22, 200916 yr Although I probably shouldn't even dignify it with a response, but the Marlins have TWELVE American-born white players on their team. 1. Jeremy Hermida 2. Josh Johnson 3. Brendan Donnelly 4. Dan Meyer 5. Chris Volstad 6. John Baker 7. Ross Gload 8. Wes Helms 9. Dan Uggla 10. Brett Carrol 11. Chris Coghlan 12. Cody Ross So, not only was your comment "wrong", but it was "wrong." Your best bet is to stop defending it.
July 22, 200916 yr Although I probably shouldn't even dignify it with a response, but the Marlins have TWELVE American-born white players on their team. 1. Jeremy Hermida 2. Josh Johnson 3. Brendan Donnelly 4. Dan Meyer 5. Chris Volstad 6. John Baker 7. Ross Gload 8. Wes Helms 9. Dan Uggla 10. Brett Carrol 11. Chris Coghlan 12. Cody Ross So, not only was your comment "wrong", but it was "wrong." Your best bet is to stop defending it. Why didnt you add Gaby Sanchez, or Brian Sanches. I think some are getting the wrong idea. Born-American is American regardless of ethnic background. For all you know I could be part Italian, Black, Chinese and Cuban as well as American Born. Try and understand my earlier point or just forget it.
July 22, 200916 yr Your point was we need more American players. You gave no reason for this except that there are good American players. Are they better? Why do we need more of them then?
July 22, 200916 yr What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. Although I probably shouldn't even dignify it with a response, but the Marlins have TWELVE American-born white players on their team. 1. Jeremy Hermida 2. Josh Johnson 3. Brendan Donnelly 4. Dan Meyer 5. Chris Volstad 6. John Baker 7. Ross Gload 8. Wes Helms 9. Dan Uggla 10. Brett Carrol 11. Chris Coghlan 12. Cody Ross So, not only was your comment "wrong", but it was "wrong." Your best bet is to stop defending it. Why didnt you add Gaby Sanchez, or Brian Sanches. I think some are getting the wrong idea. Born-American is American regardless of ethnic background. For all you know I could be part Italian, Black, Chinese and Cuban as well as American Born. Try and understand my earlier point or just forget it. Are u flippin' kidding me? If we add the two guys you mentioned, then your point is even more ridiculous. By your definition, we have even more "American" players, even though you were contending that we don't have enough. You just said "American". You never clarified what that entailed. Pardon me for making my best guess, which also was the most obvious thing. And now you're going to come out and say "Try and understand my earlier point or just forget it."? Are you serious? So now you're trolling-ish? I've never made one of those "Ban?" posts, but man you're being awfully ridiculous right about now.
July 22, 200916 yr What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. Although I probably shouldn't even dignify it with a response, but the Marlins have TWELVE American-born white players on their team. 1. Jeremy Hermida 2. Josh Johnson 3. Brendan Donnelly 4. Dan Meyer 5. Chris Volstad 6. John Baker 7. Ross Gload 8. Wes Helms 9. Dan Uggla 10. Brett Carrol 11. Chris Coghlan 12. Cody Ross So, not only was your comment "wrong", but it was "wrong." Your best bet is to stop defending it. Why didnt you add Gaby Sanchez, or Brian Sanches. I think some are getting the wrong idea. Born-American is American regardless of ethnic background. For all you know I could be part Italian, Black, Chinese and Cuban as well as American Born. Try and understand my earlier point or just forget it. Are u flippin' kidding me? If we add the two guys you mentioned, then your point is even more ridiculous. By your definition, we have even more "American" players, even though you were contending that we don't have enough. You just said "American". You never clarified what that entailed. Pardon me for making my best guess, which also was the most obvious thing. And now you're going to come out and say "Try and understand my earlier point or just forget it."? Are you serious? So now you're trolling-ish? I've never made one of those "Ban?" posts, but man you're being awfully ridiculous right about now. "to each is own"
July 22, 200916 yr What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. Wait what?! Also, Lee Gardner?? Really? I'm pretty sure he's done with baseball (or baseball's done with him).
July 22, 200916 yr ...moving Bonifacio to 2B, and Uggla to 3B? If so, does anyone think we'd be better defensively, with this alignment? Do you mean from not leading the majors in errors to being the second worst team in baseball in that category? Besides neither one of them can hit very well so it doesn't matter if you swith them in the infield.
July 22, 200916 yr What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. 1. Why do we need an American, again? I forgot getting players from different heritages was the difference maker in making teams better. That made no sense. 2. With his #'s this year, Matt Lindstrom is not the closer. Matt Lindstrom is not the setup man. At this point, Lindstrom would be fortunate to make the team, even if he comes back strong. Truthfully, none of our relievers deserve a demotion, as of right now. 3. Lee Gardner's are replaceable. I'd say the Marlins have already proven this, so I won't go into further detail. Admin Beinfest? Jeffery Loria? Fredi? Is that you? You should trade Lindstrom. By the way, I think you all suck and if it isn't , hey Erick these words are for you.
July 22, 200916 yr Author What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. 1. Why do we need an American, again? I forgot getting players from different heritages was the difference maker in making teams better. That made no sense. 2. With his #'s this year, Matt Lindstrom is not the closer. Matt Lindstrom is not the setup man. At this point, Lindstrom would be fortunate to make the team, even if he comes back strong. Truthfully, none of our relievers deserve a demotion, as of right now. 3. Lee Gardner's are replaceable. I'd say the Marlins have already proven this, so I won't go into further detail. Admin Beinfest? Jeffery Loria? Fredi? Is that you? You should trade Lindstrom. By the way, I think you all suck and if it isn't , hey Erick these words are for you. I'm confused. Anyways...this isn't even a knock on Lindstrom. I'm being serious...who on our current bullpen deserves a demotion?
July 22, 200916 yr Author ...moving Bonifacio to 2B, and Uggla to 3B? If so, does anyone think we'd be better defensively, with this alignment? Do you mean from not leading the majors in errors to being the second worst team in baseball in that category? Besides neither one of them can hit very well so it doesn't matter if you swith them in the infield. You just made Uggla a lot worse than he is.
July 22, 200916 yr What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. 1. Why do we need an American, again? I forgot getting players from different heritages was the difference maker in making teams better. That made no sense. 2. With his #'s this year, Matt Lindstrom is not the closer. Matt Lindstrom is not the setup man. At this point, Lindstrom would be fortunate to make the team, even if he comes back strong. Truthfully, none of our relievers deserve a demotion, as of right now. 3. Lee Gardner's are replaceable. I'd say the Marlins have already proven this, so I won't go into further detail. Admin Beinfest? Jeffery Loria? Fredi? Is that you? You should trade Lindstrom. By the way, I think you all suck and if it isn't , hey Erick these words are for you. I'm confused. Anyways...this isn't even a knock on Lindstrom. I'm being serious...who on our current bullpen deserves a demotion? This is a pretty good point. I don't think there is anybody at this time. And if RVH does well in his next start (or 2) it's going to be interesting when/if Miller is ready to come back. 13 pitchers and send a position player down?
July 22, 200916 yr What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks! Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts. Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins. Wait what?! Also, Lee Gardner?? Really? I'm pretty sure he's done with baseball (or baseball's done with him). LOL I thought I knew where he was going with that whole thought. Sort of a twist on the college players vs players signed from other countries......and then BLAM. Over the edge. BTW Seeing his name was brought up, Brian Sanches is a card carrying Native American. Tribe from west La./east Texas or something. There was a "60 Seconds With" article in the PBP not long ago. Also, according to him, that's why his name ends in an "s" instead of a "z".
July 22, 200916 yr Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield. WHAT???? Can someone find the .gif of the little black kid saying 'that's racist' please? Thanks. Your wish shall be granted!
July 23, 200916 yr I really thought most people would have learned by now that whenever you start a sentence with 'No offense, but...' it usually ends in disaster.
July 23, 200916 yr Reminds me of the times people complained that there were no blacks on the Marlins. Cuz, you know, Hanley's skin doesn't count. Would explain why Maybin got sent down and Bonifacio didn't though at the start of the year :mis2
July 23, 200916 yr Reminds me of the times people complained that there were no blacks on the Marlins. Cuz, you know, Hanley's skin doesn't count. Would explain why Maybin got sent down and Bonifacio didn't though at the start of the year :mis2 .....also why we got rid of Reggie Abercrombie and Preston Wilson.
July 24, 200916 yr ...moving Bonifacio to 2B, and Uggla to 3B? If so, does anyone think we'd be better defensively, with this alignment? Do you mean from not leading the majors in errors to being the second worst team in baseball in that category? Besides neither one of them can hit very well so it doesn't matter if you swith them in the infield. You just made Uggla a lot worse than he is. That is the reality of it though. Ugla is an all or nothing player. If he isn't hitting homeruns, he is poping out or grounding into double plays. If a ball isn't hit right at him (other than the #4 play on Sportscenter the other night) you can't count on him getting to it and making a play. If he isn't killing us with his stick, it is on the defensive side. Oh well the team is winning right now. If there is no room in the bullpen for Matty then I say lets trade him and some others for a big bat. We all know that is what the team needs.
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