...moving Bonifacio to 2B, and Uggla to 3B? If so, does anyone think we'd be better defensively, with this alignment?

too late now

He said did they ever consider it in Spring Training.

And I think we would be better off defensively. Uggla would probably be bad/average defensively, but Bonifacio is supposedly great at second base.

WHen I first saw the topic for this thread I thought I was on a Seinfeld site... I'd like to see "anything" done to improve the team at this point, find something that works and run with it

I think Uggla will be gone by next spring and Boni will be moved to 2b, where I think he can develop into a great defensive player. But if they're both here next year it probably couldn't hurt to try it.

Moving Uggla to 3rd kills his value, Beinfest knows that. So no, I don't think they ever really contemplated that.

WHen I first saw the topic for this thread I thought I was on a Seinfeld site... I'd like to see "anything" done to improve the team at this point, find something that works and run with it

 

 

I got you :lol

WHen I first saw the topic for this thread I thought I was on a Seinfeld site... I'd like to see "anything" done to improve the team at this point, find something that works and run with it

 

 

I got you :lol

 

"Do you ever just get down on your knees and thank God that you know me and have access to my dementia?" - George Costanza

Its highly doubtful that any such move was realistically considered because Gaby was supposed to be competing with Dallas McPherson in ST for first base. Or Dallas could have played third and Cantu first. We all know how the story worked out, but with all those options (plus Bonifacio in the mix) it would have been ludicrous to move Uggla to 3B before everything played out.

He said did they ever consider it in Spring Training.

And I think we would be better off defensively. Uggla would probably be bad/average defensively, but Bonifacio is supposedly great at second base.

 

 

I remember a quote from Admin saying it was never an option. I don't remember if it was a written quote or something said during a season ticket thing.

 

Boni has the range to be pretty good at 2B, as he showed during the Hanley injury not long ago while he was playing SS. I do believe he is the 2B next year. The hardest thing for a middle IFer to adjust to being moved to 3B is the throws. As in rushing them at times. And that's where he is having his problems. He has been getting better, but he is not the answer at 3B for us, just for this year.

He said did they ever consider it in Spring Training.

And I think we would be better off defensively. Uggla would probably be bad/average defensively, but Bonifacio is supposedly great at second base.

 

 

I remember a quote from Admin saying it was never an option. I don't remember if it was a written quote or something said during a season ticket thing.

 

Boni has the range to be pretty good at 2B, as he showed during the Hanley injury not long ago while he was playing SS. I do believe he is the 2B next year. The hardest thing for a middle IFer to adjust to being moved to 3B is the throws. As in rushing them at times. And that's where he is having his problems. He has been getting better, but he is not the answer at 3B for us, just for this year.

I really think the 2B next year is our LFer this year. The FO seems to love CC but I can't see them leaving him in the OF for another year.

He said did they ever consider it in Spring Training.

And I think we would be better off defensively. Uggla would probably be bad/average defensively, but Bonifacio is supposedly great at second base.

 

 

I remember a quote from Admin saying it was never an option. I don't remember if it was a written quote or something said during a season ticket thing.

 

Boni has the range to be pretty good at 2B, as he showed during the Hanley injury not long ago while he was playing SS. I do believe he is the 2B next year. The hardest thing for a middle IFer to adjust to being moved to 3B is the throws. As in rushing them at times. And that's where he is having his problems. He has been getting better, but he is not the answer at 3B for us, just for this year.

I really think the 2B next year is our LFer this year. The FO seems to love CC but I can't see them leaving him in the OF for another year.

 

With this team, I really can. Putting players in a position were their offense is well below average is nothing new to them.

He said did they ever consider it in Spring Training.

And I think we would be better off defensively. Uggla would probably be bad/average defensively, but Bonifacio is supposedly great at second base.

 

 

I remember a quote from Admin saying it was never an option. I don't remember if it was a written quote or something said during a season ticket thing.

 

Boni has the range to be pretty good at 2B, as he showed during the Hanley injury not long ago while he was playing SS. I do believe he is the 2B next year. The hardest thing for a middle IFer to adjust to being moved to 3B is the throws. As in rushing them at times. And that's where he is having his problems. He has been getting better, but he is not the answer at 3B for us, just for this year.

 

Bonifacio also lacks the instant instincts that a good third basemen needs. A good example was in the first inning (I believe) of tonight's game, where a ball was hit in the hole that he didn't even seem to see. But at second base he will get less of those quick shots and he has the range to play well.

He said did they ever consider it in Spring Training.

And I think we would be better off defensively. Uggla would probably be bad/average defensively, but Bonifacio is supposedly great at second base.

 

 

I remember a quote from Admin saying it was never an option. I don't remember if it was a written quote or something said during a season ticket thing.

 

Boni has the range to be pretty good at 2B, as he showed during the Hanley injury not long ago while he was playing SS. I do believe he is the 2B next year. The hardest thing for a middle IFer to adjust to being moved to 3B is the throws. As in rushing them at times. And that's where he is having his problems. He has been getting better, but he is not the answer at 3B for us, just for this year.

I really think the 2B next year is our LFer this year. The FO seems to love CC but I can't see them leaving him in the OF for another year.

 

They don't love CC as much as they love Bonifacio.

It's a shame the Marlins have held on to Uggla as long as they have. He will be really hard to trade at this point. I think Maybin should have gotten the call to return. He's hitting in the mid .300's and none of the Marlin outfielders are hitting well enough. As for Sanchez coming up, I'd rather go with Morrison.

Beinfest's reasoning, and Andy Fox I think it was was interviewed on it afterwards, was they were trying to improve the defense and the FO/managerial thinking was the Uggla/Ramirez double play combo was integral to that effort. Basically they wanted to build on what was working the year before and since the two had worked together since 2006 it was thought the best thing to to do was keep them together.

 

Uggla at third was discussed but the up the middle combo was deemed more important.

Dunno about keeping that DP combo. Uggla has horrible range for a second baseman. There has been numerous times where a ball gets past him because he's, IMHO, too big to get enough speed to catch up. Hanley, in SS is another hassle. Whenever a ball gets hit awkwardly to him, I cringe.

 

I would be fine with a guy that barely hits but can come out with great digs - something like the Gonzo/Castillo combo. Obviously, since the FO is just mad in love with Boni, they should see how that combo would work - Hanley/Boni.

 

 

All of these months they've had the chance to swap around guys, it's disheartening to see the same crap night in, night out.

What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks!

 

Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield.

 

Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts.

 

Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins.

WHAT????

 

Can someone find the .gif of the little black kid saying 'that's racist' please? Thanks.

WHAT????

 

Can someone find the .gif of the little black kid saying 'that's racist' please? Thanks.

 

 

I figured someone would say that. Thats why I said " nothing against....any other heritage. It just seems that the entire infield is non-American except Uggla, and when Paulino is catching. And I know there is an amazing amount of baseball talent from the Latin world. Sorry if I offended anyone.

What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks!

 

Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield.

 

Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts.

 

Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins.

 

 

 

1. Why do we need an American, again? I forgot getting players from different heritages was the difference maker in making teams better. That made no sense.

 

2. With his #'s this year, Matt Lindstrom is not the closer. Matt Lindstrom is not the setup man. At this point, Lindstrom would be fortunate to make the team, even if he comes back strong. Truthfully, none of our relievers deserve a demotion, as of right now.

 

3. Lee Gardner's are replaceable. I'd say the Marlins have already proven this, so I won't go into further detail.

WHAT????

 

Can someone find the .gif of the little black kid saying 'that's racist' please? Thanks.

 

 

I figured someone would say that. Thats why I said " nothing against....any other heritage. It just seems that the entire infield is non-American except Uggla, and when Paulino is catching. And I know there is an amazing amount of baseball talent from the Latin world. Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

you've offended nothing but my intelligence.

 

I don't care if the whole god damned team is from papau new guinea as long as they can play.

 

That's a dumb thing to say, man.

What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks!

 

Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield.

 

Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts.

 

Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins.

 

 

 

1. Why do we need an American, again? I forgot getting players from different heritages was the difference maker in making teams better. That made no sense.

 

2. With his #'s this year, Matt Lindstrom is not the closer. Matt Lindstrom is not the setup man. At this point, Lindstrom would be fortunate to make the team, even if he comes back strong b/c truthfully, none of our relievers deserve a demotion, as of right now.

 

3. Lee Gardner's are replaceable. I'd say the Marlins have already proven this, so I won't go into further detail.

 

I just think there is a lot of talent in colleges and high schools across this country and regardless of background.

What cracks me up about this team is that they make players play positions that they did not play in the minor leagues. Dont think its a good idea, the idea sucks!

 

Uggla should not move to 3rd, and if anything they should add another American to the infield. Nothing against Cantu, Bonafacio or especially Ramirez or any other heritage. Sanchez could possibly fit in as part of the future infield.

 

Also, they should promote relief pitchers to starters from the major league level rather than promote some no name from AA or AAA to make the never-ending emergency starts.

 

Matt Lindstrum is not a closer, and should not return as the closer. He would be an ideal setup man though. To bad they did not resign Lee Gardner. At least Gardner had 30 minor league saves the year before he was promoted to the Marlins.

 

 

 

1. Why do we need an American, again? I forgot getting players from different heritages was the difference maker in making teams better. That made no sense.

 

2. With his #'s this year, Matt Lindstrom is not the closer. Matt Lindstrom is not the setup man. At this point, Lindstrom would be fortunate to make the team, even if he comes back strong b/c truthfully, none of our relievers deserve a demotion, as of right now.

 

3. Lee Gardner's are replaceable. I'd say the Marlins have already proven this, so I won't go into further detail.

 

I just think there is a lot of talent in colleges and high school across this country regardless of background.

 

 

Are you saying that the Marlins FO is in love with Hispanics, or something?

:blink:

 

I have no idea what compels people to not only have thoughts like that, but to also articulate them in print, and then to post said articulation in a public forum....