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Troy Tulowitzki has a broken wrist that will keep him out until August, and now the Rockies -- who have struggled for runs this season -- will have to play without their best position player. Imagine the Dodgers without Andre Ethier, or the Padres without Adrian Gonzalez; this is an enormous problem for the Rockies in the days ahead. Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd is going to explore trade options, writes Troy Renck.

 

 

 

Some possibilities (to be clear, what follows is speculation -- and it's unclear whether some of them represent upgrades over what the Rockies have):

 

 

 

1. Dan Uggla, Marlins: He would be expensive, but the Rockies could shift Clint Barmes to shortstop until Tulowitzki got back. And while Uggla is never going to be confused with Roberto Alomar on defense, you can always pencil him in for 30 homers and 90 RBIs.

 

 

 

"I'd love to have Uggla, because he'd give you power and some flexibility," one AL evaluator said. "The Marlins were trying to trade him during the offseason, so you know they're willing to talk about him -- and when Tulowitzki comes back, you would have the option of sticking Uggla at first base on some days."

 

Is there anybody in Colorado that we could want/use?

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Living in the Mountain Time Zone I get to see quite a bit of the Rockies. They desperately need a right-handed bat. I've never seen a team so lefty heavy.

 

I would imagine Uggla would cost them a young pitcher like Jhoulys Chacin, and a bullpen piece like lefty Franklin Morales or a Manuel Corpas. The Rockies do a pretty good job of not rushing their young talent so I'd imagine the AA/AAA teams have a lot of position players to pick from.

 

I'm assuming under such a scenario CC moves to the infield? Does Ross then move to left and Maybin gets everyday at-bats in center again?

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Ugh. Marlins trade away Uggla and you might as well right off this season and next season. I just hate trading away players is all.

 

 

This season is already written off. There are far too many holes in the team. And as far as Uggla goes, we might not be able to replace his power but we have a damn good hitter in Coghlan who can take over at second base. If it isn't obvious that we need to start accumulating pitchers, then I don't know what to tell you. If the Rockies are willing to trade us promising young pitchers for Uggla, you do that in a heart beat.

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Ugh. Marlins trade away Uggla and you might as well right off this season and next season. I just hate trading away players is all.

 

 

This season is already written off. There are far too many holes in the team. And as far as Uggla goes, we might not be able to replace his power but we have a damn good hitter in Coghlan who can take over at second base. If it isn't obvious that we need to start accumulating pitchers, then I don't know what to tell you. If the Rockies are willing to trade us promising young pitchers for Uggla, you do that in a heart beat.

 

Yeah, if it's for the bullpen yea. But not minor league ptiching, perfer it be for a MLB relief pitcher in a vain attempt to save this season. Crazy things have happened...2006 team winning 20 in a row to go from 41-61 to 61-61. And I know Cogs can play 2nd, I just get attached to players is all.

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Dan Uggla for Chacin and Ian Stewart?

Or Uggla for Chacin and Morales?

 

I'd be down with either of those trades and if the Rockies want to throw in a little more like a C prospect to sweeten the pot...

 

 

 

Hmmm...I looked at stats for Chacin and lan. Chacin would be a starter for Marlins in that trade? Last year I see lan hit 25 HR with 70 RBI. This year at 7 HR and 30 RBI. Yeah, I would probably do that deal. But where would relief pitching come from?

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Dan Uggla for Chacin and Ian Stewart?

Or Uggla for Chacin and Morales?

 

I'd be down with either of those trades and if the Rockies want to throw in a little more like a C prospect to sweeten the pot...

 

 

 

Hmmm...I looked at stats for Chacin and lan. Chacin would be a starter for Marlins in that trade? Last year I see lan hit 25 HR with 70 RBI. This year at 7 HR and 30 RBI. Yeah, I would probably do that deal. But where would relief pitching come from?

 

We could try to get Morales in that deal but we'd have to throw something in there probably an MLB ready pitcher or at least a C+ prospect.

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Dan Uggla for Chacin and Ian Stewart?

Or Uggla for Chacin and Morales?

 

I'd be down with either of those trades and if the Rockies want to throw in a little more like a C prospect to sweeten the pot...

 

 

 

Hmmm...I looked at stats for Chacin and lan. Chacin would be a starter for Marlins in that trade? Last year I see lan hit 25 HR with 70 RBI. This year at 7 HR and 30 RBI. Yeah, I would probably do that deal. But where would relief pitching come from?

 

We could try to get Morales in that deal but we'd have to throw something in there probably an MLB ready pitcher or at least a C+ prospect.

 

 

Let me ask you something...if the Marlins were to trade Uggla, Cantu, and Ross this season or during off season...for bull pen help, starting pitching and what not....would 2011 be written off for real on paper? Even with a on paper improved bullpen and better starting pitching?

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Let me ask you something...if the Marlins were to trade Uggla, Cantu, and Ross this season or during off season...for bull pen help, starting pitching and what not....would 2011 be written off for real on paper? Even with a on paper improved bullpen and better starting pitching?

 

 

Well if the Marlins were to trade Uggla they most likely will not trade Cody Ross they'd keep him in the outfield most likely LF and move Coghlan to 2B with Maybin patrolling CF.

I doubt they trade away solid hitters like Ross, Cantu and Uggla for just pitching but they would most likely aim for high level prospects to build the team and if anything an MLB ready starting pitcher example last year aiming for Madison Bumgarner or Matt Cain from the Giants.

If they do manage to get a few steals in trades and make solid moves they most likely will be written off as for real on paper because this is a team that when it's all said and done has had 80+ wins and usually are contenders going into the last month of the season, which we still can this season if the team can get into a groove with a couple of long winning streaks.

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If we trade Uggla and don't replace his power we can kiss next season goodbye, too. I think people underestimate how important Uggla's power and OBP prowess is to this team.

 

 

If we can replace his numbers with a Mike Stanton who has seen almost a season's worth of MLB pitching by next year then there's no reason why we shouldn't be contenders next season. If he lives up to potential Stanton should outproduce and out slug Uggla Then a hopefully good Cameron Maybin or Logan Morrison can be added in the mix along with a healthy John Baker.

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If we trade Uggla and don't replace his power we can kiss next season goodbye, too. I think people underestimate how important Uggla's power and OBP prowess is to this team.

 

 

Not really. You just need guys like Hanley, Cantu, Stanton, and Ross to step up and fill the power void. Plus we should gain Logan Morrison next year.

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If we trade Uggla and don't replace his power we can kiss next season goodbye, too. I think people underestimate how important Uggla's power and OBP prowess is to this team.

 

 

Which is why I expect us to get prospects. And, the Rockies have no reason to trade their starting 3b (Stewart) to get a starting 2b. That makes no sense on their end.

 

I'd say any trade with them for Uggla starts and ends with Christian Friedrich. One of the top lefty specs going into the season has had some regression but he's also dealt with injuries. And he's in AA so should be ready by next year. They then have a lot of interesting guys to tack onto that.

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Well, trading Uggla would surely free up my tv timeslot from 7 to 10 PM

 

 

Yeah, because they are certainly winning a lot of games by keeping him around.

 

This team has a lot of needs and to fill those needs you need to trade someone of the calibur of Dan Uggla to not just fill holes but fill them with good players.

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Well, trading Uggla would surely free up my tv timeslot from 7 to 10 PM

 

 

Are you claiming that the Marlins won't win if we make a good trade involving Dan Uggla?

 

Well, considering we're barely winning with Uggla and there is no way we immediately improve offensively shipping him out (Any trade would involve relief/pitching prospects). I'd say it's a safe bet the Marlins won't win if we trade Uggla. Can't get better if you don't improve.

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The Marlins have traded much better players in the past than Dan Uggla. If they improve pitching wise with the trade, I don't see it as a big deal, even short term. If the team is willing to move Coghlan to 2B, and put Morrison in LF, the offense would be respectable. The thing is if they're willing to trade Uggla, I'm sure Cantu would be as good as gone by that point, as well.

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Well, trading Uggla would surely free up my tv timeslot from 7 to 10 PM

 

 

Are you claiming that the Marlins won't win if we make a good trade involving Dan Uggla?

 

Well, considering we're barely winning with Uggla and there is no way we immediately improve offensively shipping him out (Any trade would involve relief/pitching prospects). I'd say it's a safe bet the Marlins won't win if we trade Uggla. Can't get better if you don't improve.

 

We surely could improve a bunch in the batting average and on base percentage category if we trade Uggla for good Pitching talent.

If we trade Uggla, Coghlan moves to 2nd and most likely Logan Morrison who is one of our top prospects would most likely win the job in LF.

Morrison is a guy who can hit for a high average, gets on base, drive in runs and score runs with the possibility of 15 - 20 HR power. It's like having another Gaby Sanchez or Chris Coghlan on the team which could be beneficial. It could take him time to adjust to Major League level pitching but he has tons of upside.

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Well, trading Uggla would surely free up my tv timeslot from 7 to 10 PM

 

 

Yeah, because they are certainly winning a lot of games by keeping him around.

 

This team has a lot of needs and to fill those needs you need to trade someone of the calibur of Dan Uggla to not just fill holes but fill them with good players.

 

Yea, because the Rockies are willing to concede any arm they've got that can help them now. It's not like they're trying to get better in this trade, they just REALLY REALLY like Dan Uggla's forearms.

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