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Hanley getting the bench tonight - I really hope he wakes up...


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The best thing is, I dont think anyone is really that worried about this. Everyone assumes its just a prolonged slump and he'll clearly get back to form.

 

 

Not so sure... On the one hand, his talent speaks for itself. On the other, he's never had a great head on his shoulders.

 

Most players of Hanley's caliber, you figure, 'yea he'll bounce back.' But with Hanley, I'm not sure he has the maturity to handle adversity well. That could turn what seems like a small slump into a bigger problem down the stretch.

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Good decision to bench him. Give him time to reflect on his terrible start that has even got some of his own fans booing him. Come back stronger and start hitting.

 

 

God I hate it when fans do this. Fine, boo him when you saw him walk after that ball last season but really? Booing him because he's in a slump? Booing him because he's in a massive slump is classless. Do people think he's doing it on purpose? He walks up to the plate 3-4 times a night and tries as hard as he can to find new ways to make an out? Booing him is not supportive and it's not telling him something he doesn't already know.

 

This is rant is not directed at you Schnellders!

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Good decision to bench him. Give him time to reflect on his terrible start that has even got some of his own fans booing him. Come back stronger and start hitting.

 

 

God I hate it when fans do this. Fine, boo him when you saw him walk after that ball last season but really? Booing him because he's in a slump? Booing him because he's in a massive slump is classless. Do people think he's doing it on purpose? He walks up to the plate 3-4 times a night and tries as hard as he can to find new ways to make an out? Booing him is not supportive and it's not telling him something he doesn't already know.

 

This is rant is not directed at you Schnellders!

 

It doesn't matter how hard he's trying. When players don't perform, they're hurting their team and they're paid to perform. You're paying to be there to watch him perform. Like I've said before, baseball isn't a picnic and these players aren't going to cry when they get booed. It shows that the fanbase cares and isn't just sitting there watching the little ball hit the little bat and make a little noise. Fanbases that aren't unhappy with their team yet still pay to see them (and boo them) are the best fanbases. Most fairweather fanbases stay home when the team is booable.

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Say what you want about Hanley, but he took a 70 million dollar contract to play with the Marlins when he could probably get double that somewhere else (not saying he wont some day). For the Marlins to lock up someone with his talent is rare these days so just give the guy a break.

 

 

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Good decision to bench him. Give him time to reflect on his terrible start that has even got some of his own fans booing him. Come back stronger and start hitting.

 

 

God I hate it when fans do this. Fine, boo him when you saw him walk after that ball last season but really? Booing him because he's in a slump? Booing him because he's in a massive slump is classless. Do people think he's doing it on purpose? He walks up to the plate 3-4 times a night and tries as hard as he can to find new ways to make an out? Booing him is not supportive and it's not telling him something he doesn't already know.

 

This is rant is not directed at you Schnellders!

 

It doesn't matter how hard he's trying. When players don't perform, they're hurting their team and they're paid to perform. You're paying to be there to watch him perform. Like I've said before, baseball isn't a picnic and these players aren't going to cry when they get booed. It shows that the fanbase cares and isn't just sitting there watching the little ball hit the little bat and make a little noise. Fanbases that aren't unhappy with their team yet still pay to see them (and boo them) are the best fanbases. Most fairweather fanbases stay home when the team is booable.

 

The real issue is cause and effect. Foreign soccer fans constantly sing during games, and have fan leaders who try to come up with the perfect song to motivate the team in just the right way at just the right time. Rarely do these fans boo (or whistle) their own team, and if they do, its often because they think that's what will motivate them at that moment (e.g. team showing lack of effort).

 

The point is, booing a player who is in a hitting slump is mostly self-indulgent. Does any fan really think that a player in a slump will have a better chance of breaking out of it if they are booed on their way to the batters box? Most likely not. Theyre probably doing it because they have hostility issues and it makes them feel better, in spite of the fact that it may actually be hurting the guy's chances.

 

I agree that players should be thick skinned and not take what fans say and do personally, but I also think that hearing your own fans boo you is probably only going to hurt your chances in the batters box.

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Good decision to bench him. Give him time to reflect on his terrible start that has even got some of his own fans booing him. Come back stronger and start hitting.

 

 

God I hate it when fans do this. Fine, boo him when you saw him walk after that ball last season but really? Booing him because he's in a slump? Booing him because he's in a massive slump is classless. Do people think he's doing it on purpose? He walks up to the plate 3-4 times a night and tries as hard as he can to find new ways to make an out? Booing him is not supportive and it's not telling him something he doesn't already know.

 

This is rant is not directed at you Schnellders!

 

It doesn't matter how hard he's trying. When players don't perform, they're hurting their team and they're paid to perform. You're paying to be there to watch him perform. Like I've said before, baseball isn't a picnic and these players aren't going to cry when they get booed. It shows that the fanbase cares and isn't just sitting there watching the little ball hit the little bat and make a little noise.

 

 

I just think it's completely classless and unnecessary. What exact point are you trying to get across? You don't like that he's slumping? Well no sh*t slumps are part of the game and booing him isn't really going to solve anything (like Hanley suddenly starting to hit). To get Hanley to start hitting is going to take work not ignorant fans booing. At least if he were intentionally slacking off and you are booing expressing your displeasure at his work ethic (or something else along those lines) it would make some sense to me. What's even worse is that they're booing one of our most productive hitters over the last 5 years. To me it doesn't illustrate that the fans care. It illustrates a short memory and a need for immediate gratification without consideration of much else. It's like if St. Louis fans start booing Pujols for his early season slump (though to be fair he's had a longer history in the league with more production). It's completely idiotic in my opinion (of course I understand this is all opinion based and that neither of us is either right or wrong).

 

I also want to point out 1) no one said big league players are going to start crying at getting booed and 2) You are paying to watch him perform and he is performing (even if it is poorly) so his portion of the contract is fulfilled. What's at issue is that he isn't performing to your expectations. For that matter I'll just go to every game and boo when JJ doesn't get a strike out of every batter he faces and boo when each player doesn't hit a HR at every AB. After all, I am paying to watch him perform.

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Good decision to bench him. Give him time to reflect on his terrible start that has even got some of his own fans booing him. Come back stronger and start hitting.

 

 

God I hate it when fans do this. Fine, boo him when you saw him walk after that ball last season but really? Booing him because he's in a slump? Booing him because he's in a massive slump is classless. Do people think he's doing it on purpose? He walks up to the plate 3-4 times a night and tries as hard as he can to find new ways to make an out? Booing him is not supportive and it's not telling him something he doesn't already know.

 

This is rant is not directed at you Schnellders!

 

It doesn't matter how hard he's trying. When players don't perform, they're hurting their team and they're paid to perform. You're paying to be there to watch him perform. Like I've said before, baseball isn't a picnic and these players aren't going to cry when they get booed. It shows that the fanbase cares and isn't just sitting there watching the little ball hit the little bat and make a little noise. Fanbases that aren't unhappy with their team yet still pay to see them (and boo them) are the best fanbases. Most fairweather fanbases stay home when the team is booable.

 

The real issue is cause and effect. Foreign soccer fans constantly sing during games, and have fan leaders who try to come up with the perfect song to motivate the team in just the right way at just the right time. Rarely do these fans boo (or whistle) their own team, and if they do, its often because they think that's what will motivate them at that moment (e.g. team showing lack of effort).

 

The point is, booing a player who is in a hitting slump is mostly self-indulgent. Does any fan really think that a player in a slump will have a better chance of breaking out of it if they are booed on their way to the batters box? Most likely not. Theyre probably doing it because they have hostility issues and it makes them feel better, in spite of the fact that it may actually be hurting the guy's chances.

 

I agree that players should be thick skinned and not take what fans say and do personally, but I also think that hearing your own fans boo you is probably only going to hurt your chances in the batters box.

 

It's not as uncommon as you may think, although the majority of times fans boo their own players is at half time or full time when the whistle goes, not actually during the match

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It's not as uncommon as you may think, although the majority of times fans boo their own players is at half time or full time when the whistle goes, not actually during the match

 

 

maybe in Scotland... :sleazy

 

Anyhow, if its at an interval then its likely calculated, as if to say, "we want more." Also, in soccer its much easier to tell when a team is mailing it in. In baseball, its harder to accuse a batter of giving less than his best efforts. "You're not swinging the bat hard enough! BOOOO!"

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