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The indians are going to need bullpen help, and we have bullpen depth. do the indians have a pitcher in there minors, or current rotation that would be better then vazquez, and they might trade for a few bullpen arms?

 

 

 

The Indians don't really "need" bullpen help.

Adding a Lefty to the rotation would be of great significance

 

I have a few options to throw out there

 

Zach Britton 23 Baltimore....Sorry no chance on getting him, but absolutely love this kid!

Joe Saunders 29 Arizona (5.5 mill) 0-5 ERA 5.48 AVG .301 Horrible K/BB ratio Badly needs a change of scenary

John Danks 26 Chisox (6 mill) 0-6 ERA 4.50 He really hasnt pitched that bad

Jeff Francis 30 Kansas City (2 mill) 0-4 ERA 5.09 K/BB 24/9 AVG .314 Doesn't walk many hitters but he has been battered

Erick Bedard 32 Seattle (1 mill) 1-4 ERA 4.78 7 HR in 7 starts only 5.4 IPS Giving up the jacks and not getting deep into games has been his downfall so far

Paul Maholm 28 Pittsburgh (6.25 mill) 1-5 ERA 3.60 IP 50.0 Will eat up innings and has only served up 2 HRs in 8 starts Salary maybe a huge factor

Clayton Richards 27 San Diego (468,000) 1-4 ERA 4.79 IP 41.1 He has been getting knocked out of games early, however he is cheap and a Southpaw and can hit 95 MPH on the radargun

John Lannan 26 Washington (2.75 mill) 2-4 ERA 4.79 IP 41.1 Leads his staff in BBs with 18, very bad news for a pitcher who relies on his pinpoint control to get outs

 

 

 

For my money I would love to get Danks who is struggling right now with his cutter which is his signature pitch, once he gets if back on track he will be fine.

Bedard however seems to be perfect option considering his salary, he has lost some speed on his fastball but he is a workhorse my concern is that he has a reputation to be a pain in the clubhouse

I would love to bring in Richards however looking to move him long term to the Bullpen and make Dunn a starter

Adding a Lefty to the rotation would be of great significance

 

I have a few options to throw out there

 

Zach Britton 23 Baltimore....Sorry no chance on getting him, but absolutely love this kid!

Joe Saunders 29 Arizona (5.5 mill) 0-5 ERA 5.48 AVG .301 Horrible K/BB ratio Badly needs a change of scenary

John Danks 26 Chisox (6 mill) 0-6 ERA 4.50 He really hasnt pitched that bad

Jeff Francis 30 Kansas City (2 mill) 0-4 ERA 5.09 K/BB 24/9 AVG .314 Doesn't walk many hitters but he has been battered

Erick Bedard 32 Seattle (1 mill) 1-4 ERA 4.78 7 HR in 7 starts only 5.4 IPS Giving up the jacks and not getting deep into games has been his downfall so far

Paul Maholm 28 Pittsburgh (6.25 mill) 1-5 ERA 3.60 IP 50.0 Will eat up innings and has only served up 2 HRs in 8 starts Salary maybe a huge factor

Clayton Richards 27 San Diego (468,000) 1-4 ERA 4.79 IP 41.1 He has been getting knocked out of games early, however he is cheap and a Southpaw and can hit 95 MPH on the radargun

John Lannan 26 Washington (2.75 mill) 2-4 ERA 4.79 IP 41.1 Leads his staff in BBs with 18, very bad news for a pitcher who relies on his pinpoint control to get outs

 

 

 

For my money I would love to get Danks who is struggling right now with his cutter which is his signature pitch, once he gets if back on track he will be fine.

Bedard however seems to be perfect option considering his salary, he has lost some speed on his fastball but he is a workhorse my concern is that he has a reputation to be a pain in the clubhouse

I would love to bring in Richards however looking to move him long term to the Bullpen and make Dunn a starter

 

 

 

Dunn wouldn't survive as a starter.

If you want to look for realistic targets, you aren't going to find many right now. Almost no one is really out of the race yet.

 

The best acquisition would be if Vazquez could somehow reinvent himself into a different pitcher.

It might seem like a minor move, but it's worth noting that the Reds have a bunch of pitching depth. Dontrelle Willis, playing for their AAA team, seems to have remembered how to throw strikes, again (2.8 BB/9 in 35 innings); he has a 2.52 ERA/1.29 WHIP in AAA so far.

 

Minor move worth looking into to?

 

I usually don't consider it a big deal but considering the Phillies are loaded with left-handed hitters, I think it would be more convenient to have a quality lefty in the rotation.

Dontrelle! :p

 

 

first

 

It might seem like a minor move, but it's worth noting that the Reds have a bunch of pitching depth. Dontrelle Willis, playing for their AAA team, seems to have remembered how to throw strikes, again (2.8 BB/9 in 35 innings); he has a 2.52 ERA/1.29 WHIP in AAA so far.

 

Minor move worth looking into to?

 

I usually don't consider it a big deal but considering the Phillies are loaded with left-handed hitters, I think it would be more convenient to have a quality lefty in the rotation.

 

 

Yes, a lefty would be nice.

 

Plus side, Dontrelle's on a minor league deal, so not much risk. But gotta think that if the organization was interested in him, they would have made a play when he was a FA.

 

Also, he got his 3rd win tonight while giving up 9 hits in 5 innings. Performances have only gotten worse as the season has gone on. Regardless, I really wouldn't put much faith in 7 minor league appearances. Mostly, laughing at the hypothetically hostile reaction you would have given O[Dontrelle]P if you'd read that P before P-ing.

Dontrelle! :p

 

 

first

 

It might seem like a minor move, but it's worth noting that the Reds have a bunch of pitching depth. Dontrelle Willis, playing for their AAA team, seems to have remembered how to throw strikes, again (2.8 BB/9 in 35 innings); he has a 2.52 ERA/1.29 WHIP in AAA so far.

 

Minor move worth looking into to?

 

I usually don't consider it a big deal but considering the Phillies are loaded with left-handed hitters, I think it would be more convenient to have a quality lefty in the rotation.

 

 

Yes, a lefty would be nice.

 

Plus side, Dontrelle's on a minor league deal, so not much risk. But gotta think that if the organization was interested in him, they would have made a play when he was a FA.

 

Also, he got his 3rd win tonight while giving up 9 hits in 5 innings. Performances have only gotten worse as the season has gone on. Regardless, I really wouldn't put much faith in 7 minor league appearances. Mostly, laughing at the hypothetically hostile reaction you would have given O[Dontrelle]P if you'd read that P before P-ing.

 

True but we didn't think we needed a starter then. Now it looks like we need a starter. Any of the guys mentioned in this thread would be better than what Vazquez is providing now. Man I would love a minor move right now, I really think it would go a long, long way.

I would take a shot at guys like Correia and Pelfrey ... someone also mentioned Hiroki Kuroda, guy is consistent but I doubt the dodgers would be willing to give him up.

I would take a shot at guys like Correia and Pelfrey ... someone also mentioned Hiroki Kuroda, guy is consistent but I doubt the dodgers would be willing to give him up.

 

 

That was me. As far as the Dodgers being willing to give him up, he is a 36-year-old pitcher in a contract year. My guess is the Dodgers aren't going to extend him beyond this season. The problem with Kuroda is that he has a full NTC. But who knows, maybe he'll be willing to waive it in order to go to a team that has a chance at making a run...

 

The pitcher that is probably the best combination of talent/trade likelihood/cost that the Marlins could make a play for is Paul Maholm:

 

Paul Maholm lhp

3 years/$14.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option

 

3 years/$14.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option

signed extension with Pittsburgh 1/30/09 (avoided arbitration, $3.8M-$2.65M)

$1.5M signing bonus

09:$2M, 10:$4.5M, 11:$5.75M, 12:$9.75M club option ($0.75M buyout)

2012 option may increase by $1.3M to $11.05M based on performance

award bonuses

1 year/$0.4245M (2008)

re-signed by Pittsburgh 3/10/08

1 year/$0.403M (2007), re-signed 3/07

1 year/$0.328M (2006), re-signed 2/06

1 year (2005), contract purchased 8/05

drafted 2003 (1-8) (Mississippi State)

$2.2M signing bonus

agent: Bo McKinnis

ML service: 5.037

 

I think the Marlins probably have the pieces that they could trade for him without having to completely deplete the system.

I think if they are doing any trades for pitchers it will be someone who will be around next year as well..

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