MarlinsCanes Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I am sure some are tired of this subject. But what seems to be the trouble with him this season? I know we are only about 6 weeks into the season but unless he starts to get it together it will be a tough season. Anyway else have any major concerns at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 He's been hitting the ball harder and had a couple of hits last night. This thread would have made a lot more sense a week ago. Now, I'm hoping he's finally getting out of his slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinMike Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanley will be fine once he chokes up on the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanley will be fine once he chokes up on the bat.  Don't want this to happen, he'll lose his power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanleylicious Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I was at the game last night, sitting 1B side, so from my angle it was hard to judge, but... In the top half of the 3rd inning there was that base hit through the hole between short/third that plated 2 runs. From my vantage point it looked like Hanley was dogging it and could've made a play on the ball. I felt like even if there was no play at first, he could've definitely gotten to the ball, put it in his back pocket, and saved a run. Then again - it was very hard from where I was sitting to get an idea of the depth of the ball relative to where he was playing. Can anyone that was watching on TV provide some insight? I'd like to believe he had no play on the ball...but you never know with Hanley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I was at the game last night, sitting 1B side, so from my angle it was hard to judge, but... In the top half of the 3rd inning there was that base hit through the hole between short/third that plated 2 runs. From my vantage point it looked like Hanley was dogging it and could've made a play on the ball. I felt like even if there was no play at first, he could've definitely gotten to the ball, put it in his back pocket, and saved a run. Then again - it was very hard from where I was sitting to get an idea of the depth of the ball relative to where he was playing. Can anyone that was watching on TV provide some insight? I'd like to believe he had no play on the ball...but you never know with Hanley.   Wasn't that the ball that Gload hit? I think that was just a great piece of hitting. He definitely had a shot on the 6th run scored, though; he froze on the blooper for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBCMarlinsFan Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinMike Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanley will be fine once he chokes up on the bat.  Don't want this to happen, he'll lose his power.  Hanley will be fine once he stops choking up on the damn bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanley will be fine once he chokes up on the bat.  Don't want this to happen, he'll lose his power.  Hanley will be fine once he stops choking up on the damn bat. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asabater Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home.   When was this? I never heard of anything going down between Lomo and hanley this year?  Btw, this is not a sarcastic question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom2613 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home.   When was this? I never heard of anything going down between Lomo and hanley this year?  Btw, this is not a sarcastic question  I think he's referring to the cast that everyone signed except Hanley. I wouldn't say Lomo called him out, he just said Hanley didn't want to sign it. You guys are being sarcastic about choking up on the bat hurting Hanley and reducing his power right? Bond choked up and hit bombs even way before the roids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBCMarlinsFan Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home.   When was this? I never heard of anything going down between Lomo and hanley this year?  Btw, this is not a sarcastic question  It happened late last month and had to do with Hanley not signing the cast Logan Morrison auctioned off for charity. Here is the relevant part of a Miami Herald article on the incident: Shortstop Hanley Ramirez, who made it a point to sign plenty of autographs throughout spring training, said he was surprised Friday to hear everyone on the team had signed Morrison’s left-foot cast except for him. “He never told me,’’ Ramirez said. “I was in the [batting] cage. I didn’t see it.’’ That’s not what Morrison told WQAM’s Sid Rosenberg on Wednesday. “The whole team signed it, and then we put it up on eBay, expect (sic) for Hanley,’’ Morrison said. Rosenberg asked if maybe Hanley was too busy or being a jerk. “I don’t think he was busy at the time,’’ Morrison said. “He said he didn’t want to touch it. He was worried about cooties or germs. I don’t know why he’s worried about that, seeing what he hangs out with.’’ Source -- http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2193493/hanley-fails-to-sign-morrisons.html Reading into the comment, I think it is pretty obvious what type of people Logan Morrison was implying Hanley "hangs out" with. It was a pretty cold and ballsy comment on LoMo's part, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmor Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanleys stock is about to crash, we have seen the best of him, I say trade him while he has some value, the guy has regressed since 2009. trade him and leo nunez to texas for Andrus, Borbon, Moreland and O'day, he isn't worth the headaches he is causing, get that manny ramirez wannabe outta here, now if he hit like manny i would put up with it, but with his numbers? ehh bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixYearItch Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 He's been hitting the ball harder and had a couple of hits last night. This thread would have made a lot more sense a week ago. Now, I'm hoping he's finally getting out of his slump.  Yeh, he's hitting the ball harder. He's hitting nice hard grounders to third, short and second, and grounders up the middle, some hard enough to sneak through The ones that don't get turned into DP's. He'd be getting out of his slump if we witnessed even just a few line drive outs to left, center or right field, you know, the kind that Bonafacio has demonstrated he can hit. Where's the power in Hanley's bat ? He's showing none of it. Hanley is an infield pepper machine, making sure that every one on the diamond gets their share of grounders to field, heck, even the pitcher. To me, he's performed at the plate so far like a poor man's Cameron Maybin (the version we experienced, who seemed to never get the ball out of the infield) So far, considering how he's performed to date this year, Hanley's close to being the most unproductive every day bat in MLB. He is absolutely killing us.. Obviously that's not to say he won't break out of it (he is and should too good a hitter to stay like this), but to me really no sign of it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home.  Wow, this is spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home. I actually completely agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanley will be fine once he chokes up on the bat.  Don't want this to happen, he'll lose his power.  Hanley will be fine once he stops choking up on the damn bat.  Uh, yeah, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hanleys stock is about to crash, we have seen the best of him, I say trade him while he has some value, the guy has regressed since 2009. trade him and leo nunez to texas for Andrus, Borbon, Moreland and O'day, he isn't worth the headaches he is causing, get that manny ramirez wannabe outta here, now if he hit like manny i would put up with it, but with his numbers? ehh bye bye.  So you trade Hanley for a 22 year old SS with no power and average on base skills, a 25 year old 1B/OF who plays terrible OF and projects to just be an average bat (who we have absolutely no room for, long term), a 25 year old 4th outfielder, and a 28 year old reliever who is already in his 1st arbitration year.  You seem to know a lot about baseball. Tell me more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home. I actually completely agree with this. So you think he's slamming his helmet and breaking his bat out of frustration because he is purposefully trying to sabotage the team? Are you serious?  Jesus christ, this is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hanleys stock is about to crash, we have seen the best of him, I say trade him while he has some value, the guy has regressed since 2009. trade him and leo nunez to texas for Andrus, Borbon, Moreland and O'day, he isn't worth the headaches he is causing, get that manny ramirez wannabe outta here, now if he hit like manny i would put up with it, but with his numbers? ehh bye bye.   Hopefully your first post is also your last post.  Not only is the trade horrible for Hanley straight up, but apparently we have to throw-in Leo Nunez, as well. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If this thread were a building, it would be on fire, and there would be a room full of kitties trapped in a room unable to be saved, and I would be standing out on the street watching helplessly with my hand over my mouth, silently weeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly. My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home. I actually completely agree with this. So you think he's slamming his helmet and breaking his bat out of frustration because he is purposefully trying to sabotage the team? Are you serious?  Jesus christ, this is incredible. Nope. The guy is just immature. Plain and simple. He's struggling and he's frustrated and those frustrations are being shown in the form of acting like a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hanleys stock is about to crash, we have seen the best of him, I say trade him while he has some value, the guy has regressed since 2009. trade him and leo nunez to texas for Andrus, Borbon, Moreland and O'day, he isn't worth the headaches he is causing, get that manny ramirez wannabe outta here, now if he hit like manny i would put up with it, but with his numbers? ehh bye bye. Now THAT is spectacular. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 BTW, it was just a couple weeks ago that John Buck was going on about how great Hanley has been in the clubhouse while struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 My impression of Hanley from what I have seen on TV and reading scores of articles about him the past five years or so is that his problems have to do with his massive ego and (lack of) maturity. My impression reading between the lines of articles on him over the years is that he has not been well-liked by a number of Marlins because of those two things. You may recall his issues with Dan Uggla in the past and most notably this year with Logan Morrison - who called him out publicly.My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result. He reminds me of a petulant child at times that gets angry during playtime and leaves in a huff saying he is going to take his toys and go home. I actually completely agree with this. So you think he's slamming his helmet and breaking his bat out of frustration because he is purposefully trying to sabotage the team? Are you serious?  Jesus christ, this is incredible. Nope. The guy is just immature. Plain and simple. You said you "completely agree" with the guy who said "My guess is Hanley doesn't feel Hanley is getting the proper respect and adulation due to him by his teammates and is taking it out on the team as a result." So you believe he is purposefully sabotaging the team. Which means that when he slams his bat or helmet, it's not out of frustration, it's a front because he's a petulant child.  This is, seriously, the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board, and there's some incredibly stiff competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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