Matty Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Now, being a relatively new fan of the Marlins, the one thing i have come to notice is the lack of support. I am not talking about gates, and the number of people that the Sun Life brings in, i am talking about atmosphere. Its lifeless, it quiet and if you close your eyes you could drift to sleep listening to the sweet whispers of the desperate commentators. Being a Rotherham fan, we get 3500 fans a home game, yet we play in a 25000 seater stadium. If you scatter these fans about you have nothing, but put them in in a group, and walah you have an atmosphere. Football is a sport full of songs, chants and the crowd is called the 12th man to a team and can have a real effect if they get behind the team. The players love it. Another example, is the England Barmy Army for Cricket, a boring sport, yet during the Ashes and big games, the barmy Army, a group of 500 gather with instruments and sing songs, chant ect. It is great to see and helps the team. If you haven't already got where i am going with this, my point is, we don't need a big crowd, just place everyone that enters the SunLife stadium, who is willing to contribute to an atmosphere, actually enjoy a good game of baseball and also get behind there team into one or two blocks. Different prices you say? Well, i think they will have to rethink this, maybe meet in the middle of some prices depending where they did it. Or give the ones who pay more privileges, such as free food and drink for the night ect. Its something that i would like to see the Marlins at least think about, as i don't like watching Fish games and seeing thousands scattered about all over the place, makes it worse than it actually is. It is possible to get an atmosphere going. This may be laughed at, but i'm sure it would help the team. Btw, i wish baseball would get rid of those God awful organs. Here are some videos to help demonstrate my point from both Rotherham and England. The first video there are 7000 fans as it is a big game. As you can see there are 18000 seats spare, yet there is a good atmosphere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGvTHaQjKLE&feature=related Second, the England Barmy Army, 200 fans in a huge stadium, full to the brim but just 200 partake in this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunMarlin Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I do feel that after the 5th inning, the ushers should let people move up to better seats if they have not yet been occupied. If the owner of said ticket comes to the game after the 5th, he still has the right to his seat and the current occupier will be asked to move. No reason why this coudln't be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlinsForever Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I agree, the atmosphere is depression, quiet, and guess what....THE PLAYERS DO NOTICE Ever here a Manager say, ''get the crowd out of the game'' Becuase its effects the players motivation, the fans are almost as important to a game as the players themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Matty, I know as much as you how much a good crowd can help the home team, but just look around all American sports - there is very little singing. In their football, there can be a cracking amount of noise and atmosphere when the home team is on defense for example, however it is completely different to what we know from our football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 I know Schnellder, and i don't get why it has to be that way. Even the african drum up incredible noise at matches for all sports. So why can't America!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxPhin Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 don't mistake the lack of singing for lack of noise - we just prefer to yell & scream at sporting events where such things are acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBob27 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I do feel that after the 5th inning, the ushers should let people move up to better seats if they have not yet been occupied. If the owner of said ticket comes to the game after the 5th, he still has the right to his seat and the current occupier will be asked to move. No reason why this coudln't be done. I've never heard of them not letting people move around in the later innings if they want to. It may happen from time to time, but I think it is pretty much allowed. We don't do it, but people I have given our tickets to do it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Traditions here in the U.S. at sporting events are very different. Sure, stadiums can make a lot of noise, but its rarely anything like singing or some kind of group cheer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 We had vuvuzelas last year. We lost that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinKidd101 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 ^^ That game was awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3unikat Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Could you imagine seeing that during any MLB game? No, I couldn't! And it's ok so! It's just the way it is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoA9UNpF1xk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9F9JQr6wY8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 The rest of Europe is much better than this country. Very passionate fans, some great chants ect. That bottom one is brilliant. Lech Poznan are known for there turning backs and jumping together routine when they score. I personally would love to see something like this in American sport. An example of how it can be done, is Greek giants Panithanikos(Spellcheck) going to a basketball game. taking 20000 fans and making it epic. Imagine this at a Lakers game, ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3unikat Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 No, I can't imagine it, because the mentality is just different. As LordMagnus has already mentioned - they preffer screaming and making noise than chanting... And I'm ok with this and I really don't expect anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I do feel that after the 5th inning, the ushers should let people move up to better seats if they have not yet been occupied. If the owner of said ticket comes to the game after the 5th, he still has the right to his seat and the current occupier will be asked to move. No reason why this coudln't be done. Because then there is no reason for anyone to ever buy the good tickets. This was a pretty decent problem during the John Henry days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 In other news, the sky is blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan88 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 First a joke - why don't Americans chant at games? sing songs? Puritans. People so straight the english kicked them out. Second, and i'll really be happy if a fellow Seminole can back me up on this, i've been apart of a baseball cheering section! During the 2007 season I was an Animal. The Animals of Section B. I think we have even been voted college baseballs number one cheering section. Things we did...We had a bonafide songbook, with songs written for each team we played. The one about the Tennessee Volunteers talked about screwing family members. We had shirts. We hungup K's appropriately. During the top of the inning we would chant "K-Time" to various cadences. In the bottom of the inning we would stand up and start a slow clap, getting faster and faster eventually screaming if the pitcher took to long to throw the ball. We'd also chant "rag arm" and other things if we wanted to rattle him. And it worked, being such a small stadium at FSU...it was awesome. you could really SEE it working. One guy had a weird wind up so we started chanting "one, two, cha cha cha." He was gone one out later.We sang O 'Canada in the bottom of the fifth, every game. Why? Well, there are many stories...but in true baseball fashion the one i like is that the Animals sang it during the first at bat of a Canadian born player to make him feel at home...and he hit a grand slam. It became tradition then. So there definitely ARE cheering sections they're just....few and far between. I think to create one you just have to start DOING it. But then there's the problem of hitting on that magic, elusive and finnicky ratio of public support, media exposure, and consistency. All those factors have to be just right for things to catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 My main point was, i don;t see why we can't have said instances in American sports ^. Not everyone joins in but it lightens the mood, especially when losing. Simply shouting like an ape or booing really doesn't help. I'm sure the players would react more positively if every time they got up a song was sung about each one for instance. It shows you're behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Different cultures....most of us would consider bursting into song as being silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandrasnow Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Different cultures....most of us would consider bursting into song as being silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted June 11, 2011 Author Share Posted June 11, 2011 Different cultures....most of us would consider bursting into song as being silly Yet the majority of the world partake in such acts at sporting acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 First a joke - why don't Americans chant at games? sing songs? Puritans. People so straight the english kicked them out. Second, and i'll really be happy if a fellow Seminole can back me up on this, i've been apart of a baseball cheering section! During the 2007 season I was an Animal. The Animals of Section B. I think we have even been voted college baseballs number one cheering section. Things we did...We had a bonafide songbook, with songs written for each team we played. The one about the Tennessee Volunteers talked about screwing family members. We had shirts. We hungup K's appropriately. During the top of the inning we would chant "K-Time" to various cadences. In the bottom of the inning we would stand up and start a slow clap, getting faster and faster eventually screaming if the pitcher took to long to throw the ball. We'd also chant "rag arm" and other things if we wanted to rattle him. And it worked, being such a small stadium at FSU...it was awesome. you could really SEE it working. One guy had a weird wind up so we started chanting "one, two, cha cha cha." He was gone one out later.We sang O 'Canada in the bottom of the fifth, every game. Why? Well, there are many stories...but in true baseball fashion the one i like is that the Animals sang it during the first at bat of a Canadian born player to make him feel at home...and he hit a grand slam. It became tradition then. So there definitely ARE cheering sections they're just....few and far between. I think to create one you just have to start DOING it. But then there's the problem of hitting on that magic, elusive and finnicky ratio of public support, media exposure, and consistency. All those factors have to be just right for things to catch on. I can attest to this. I went to a dozen or so Seminole baseball games this spring, and the Animals are definitely fun to listen to! My favorite cheer of theirs is when the opposing team makes an error they yell "The circus is over there! Where? Over there!" (In reference to the Flying High Circus Tent beyond the right field wall. FSU is one of only two colleges in the nation with an on-campus circus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandrasnow Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Different cultures....most of us would consider bursting into song as being silly Yet the majority of the world partake in such acts at sporting acts. I don't mean to be rude but what is your point? Just because, according to you, the majority of the world does partake in song during a sporting contest that doesn't mean that America will just suddenly start doing it. Different cultures have different customs and bursting into song isn't part of American sports culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted June 11, 2011 Author Share Posted June 11, 2011 Different cultures....most of us would consider bursting into song as being silly Yet the majority of the world partake in such acts at sporting acts. I don't mean to be rude but what is your point? Just because, according to you, the majority of the world does partake in song during a sporting contest that doesn't mean that America will just suddenly start doing it. Different cultures have different customs and bursting into song isn't part of American sports culture. If you read the initial post you will understand. Not trying to change America but seeing if it is possible for the little Marlins fans to get together to get behind there side. I don't like ignorance which is what LordMagnus post comes across as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Different cultures....most of us would consider bursting into song as being silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisiMooMoo Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 The rest of Europe is much better than this country. Very passionate fans, some great chants ect. That bottom one is brilliant. Lech Poznan are known for there turning backs and jumping together routine when they score. I personally would love to see something like this in American sport. An example of how it can be done, is Greek giants Panithanikos(Spellcheck) going to a basketball game. taking 20000 fans and making it epic. Imagine this at a Lakers game, ha After seeing this sentence.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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