Piazza31 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I'm not advocating him getting traded, but should it be on the table? Most of us would love David Wright but we all know we don't have the assets. Straight up Ramirez for wright is dumb- but what if we take on Reyes expiring contract and wright and attempt to resign Reyes or trade him? NY would want him because of his cost control contract and value, FLA would want Wright for his veteren presence and somewhat manageable contract. Idk thinking while in rush hour, gotta go-- person in front is pumping the brakes- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jclark1324 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Zero chance we would get both especially within the division. Possibly one though. How about we ship Hanley for Justin Upton and whoever else they want to give us and go after Reyes in free agency. if only we didn't give Miggy away for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I guess we now know why no one on here is a GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 jesus f*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If you get high ceiling mlb ready or close to mlb ready prospects and if Beinfest will have the $15 million saved on Hanley to spend on other players then I see no reason not to trade him. I would encourage such a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If you get high ceiling mlb ready or close to mlb ready prospects and if Beinfest will have the $15 million saved on Hanley to spend on other players then I see no reason not to trade him. I would encourage such a trade. Hanley is having a rough season, but he is a rare talent, the franchise talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If you get high ceiling mlb ready or close to mlb ready prospects and if Beinfest will have the $15 million saved on Hanley to spend on other players then I see no reason not to trade him. I would encourage such a trade. Hanley is having a rough season, but he is a rare talent, the franchise talent. But it's not only this season. It's the $15 million salary and last season's performance too. In 2010 he regressed to the point where he did not have a "very good" season... he had a "good" season. Even if he returns to the 2010 Hanley, he's not a $15 million a year player. If he returns to the 2009 Hanley, then yes. But that's a risky bet. I would rather have the top MLB ready prospects and the $15 million to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirspud Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Knowing this FO, we'd probably just get two shaky relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 In 2010 he regressed to the point where he did not have a "very good" season... he had a "good" season. Even if he returns to the 2010 Hanley, he's not a $15 million a year player. You mean his .853 OPS 2010 - 2nd in MLB at SS behind only Troy "hey, I get to play at Coors" Tulowitzki - merely "good" season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I would at least see what the Marlins can get for him. This team has too many holes and all the big talent in the minors is already in the majors. So unless the front office is going to spend some money, trades are the only way to plug holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearOneMarlinFan Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Said it in another thread - Hanley and Infante for Uggla and Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I would at least see what the Marlins can get for him. This team has too many holes and all the big talent in the minors is already in the majors. So unless the front office is going to spend some money, trades are the only way to plug holes. It better, the excuses are over next year. The team is going to find out if Dominguez can play, and if Coghlan can get on base, other than that the team needs to acquire a legit starting pitcher and either a 2B or CF as a minimum. The team should probably line up 3 solid bench players to go with Boni and Baker and a veteran bullpen arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 In 2010 he regressed to the point where he did not have a "very good" season... he had a "good" season. Even if he returns to the 2010 Hanley, he's not a $15 million a year player. You mean his .853 OPS 2010 - 2nd in MLB at SS behind only Troy "hey, I get to play at Coors" Tulowitzki - merely "good" season? But defensively he was horrible. Using the average of Rtot (-8) and Rdrs (-16), he was one of the 3 or 4 worst defensive SS in MLB. His WAR was 3.7 which is good, not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiNative0722 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 all of you suggesting we should trade him, we would get nowhere near his worth at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 In 2010 he regressed to the point where he did not have a "very good" season... he had a "good" season. Even if he returns to the 2010 Hanley, he's not a $15 million a year player. You mean his .853 OPS 2010 - 2nd in MLB at SS behind only Troy "hey, I get to play at Coors" Tulowitzki - merely "good" season? But defensively he was horrible. Using the average of Rtot (-8) and Rdrs (-16), he was one of the 3 or 4 worst defensive SS in MLB. His WAR was 3.7 which is good, not very good. His WAR was top 3 among shortstops last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 all of you suggesting we should trade him, we would get nowhere near his worth at this point Yeah, the proposed deals in this thread actually make less sense for the other teams than they do for the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterthemadness Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Only trade Hanley if Marlins give JJ an extension, and lock up LOMO AND STANTON in the next year or two. If a team is willing to pay a hefty price for Hanley, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Only trade Hanley if Marlins give JJ an extension, and lock up LOMO AND STANTON in the next year or two. If a team is willing to pay a hefty price for Hanley, yes. JJ is extended for a while. Also LoMo and Stanton are under club control for about 5 more years. So Hanley's contract is actually team friendly (going by his potential if he reverts back to ANY of his previous seasons) and we can easily afford to keep him moving into the new stadium. I think it would be a mistake publicity wise to trade the face of our team. He may not be the best player anymore but he still certainly is the one that people identify with the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 In 2010 he regressed to the point where he did not have a "very good" season... he had a "good" season. Even if he returns to the 2010 Hanley, he's not a $15 million a year player. You mean his .853 OPS 2010 - 2nd in MLB at SS behind only Troy "hey, I get to play at Coors" Tulowitzki - merely "good" season? But defensively he was horrible. Using the average of Rtot (-8) and Rdrs (-16), he was one of the 3 or 4 worst defensive SS in MLB. His WAR was 3.7 which is good, not very good. His WAR was top 3 among shortstops last year. His WAR was tied for 73rd among all players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 In 2010 he regressed to the point where he did not have a "very good" season... he had a "good" season. Even if he returns to the 2010 Hanley, he's not a $15 million a year player. You mean his .853 OPS 2010 - 2nd in MLB at SS behind only Troy "hey, I get to play at Coors" Tulowitzki - merely "good" season? But defensively he was horrible. Using the average of Rtot (-8) and Rdrs (-16), he was one of the 3 or 4 worst defensive SS in MLB. His WAR was 3.7 which is good, not very good. His WAR was top 3 among shortstops last year. His WAR was tied for 73rd among all players. I think that's poor usage of the WAR statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 No. And yeah, that's not how you do that OotP. And I'm betting you know that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgreg07 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 all of you suggesting we should trade him, we would get nowhere near his worth at this point Beat me to it. I'm not against the idea, I've actually pondered it myself lately, but I don't think we'd get all that much for him because, franchise talent or not, he isn't doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97marlin Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hell no, he is hitting .500 in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Looks like I sparked a discussion. When do you trade him though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hell no, he is hitting .500 in the summer. This actually makes sense since we're a summer team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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